The AllBeast Method.

[Rainbow]

Aren't you that gigantic homophobe who thinks people who let their kids be whoever they want is failing as a parent? 

are you trans ? want to make sure I dont use wrong pronouns before responding

No, just heterosexual. And why do you care, do you think this is some sort of clever comeback?  Do you have the same views?

[STREEM]

Aren't you that gigantic homophobe who thinks people who let their kids be whoever they want is failing as a parent? 

are you trans ? want to make sure I dont use wrong pronouns before responding

No, just heterosexual. And why do you care, do you think this is some sort of clever comeback?  Do you have the same views?

no, it's just interesting that you've ran out of arguments after a single post

[Mati]

Milosz the fallen angel but the guardian of modded justice 

[Rainbow]

Aren't you that gigantic homophobe who thinks people who let their kids be whoever they want is failing as a parent? 

are you trans ? want to make sure I dont use wrong pronouns before responding

No, just heterosexual. And why do you care, do you think this is some sort of clever comeback?  Do you have the same views?

no, it's just interesting that you've ran out of arguments after a single post

Arguments about what? Literally no idea what you're talking about. Can probably supply some more if I knew what you meant. And no elaborate about your youtube comment about me?

[STREEM]

Arguments about what? Literally no idea what you're talking about. Can probably supply some more if I knew what you meant. And no elaborate about your youtube comment about me?

Aren't you that gigantic homophobe who thinks people who let their kids be whoever they want is failing as a parent? 

just openly admit you are not interested in discussing anything but just throwing shit like that around

[Rainbow]

Arguments about what? Literally no idea what you're talking about. Can probably supply some more if I knew what you meant. And no elaborate about your youtube comment about me?

Aren't you that gigantic homophobe who thinks people who let their kids be whoever they want is failing as a parent? 

just openly admit you are not interested in discussing anything but just throwing shit like that around

Was just an intro to ask him about his views on Fckr since I'm interested in discussing that as you could've seen. And yes that was shit throwing. Are you now finally going to talk about your youtube comment?

[AllBeast]

dab88 here, he can make new documentary about this

I will even give an interview with a sincere confession

[dab88]

This gives me an excrutiating level of second hand embarrassment remembering AllBeast replying to every comment congratulating him on the Limitless topic and making a 45min video attempting to legitimise it before revealing the true "method". How could somebody do that knowing they were essentially deceiving everyone? I guess it's good the charade wasn't kept up forever.

If you can't get attention doing something the right way, just do it the wrongest way possible.

[AllBeast]

This gives me an excrutiating level of second hand embarrassment remembering AllBeast replying to every comment congratulating him on the Limitless topic and making a 45min video attempting to legitimise it before revealing the true "method". How could somebody do that knowing they were essentially deceiving everyone? I guess it's good the charade wasn't kept up forever.

If you can't get attention doing something the right way, just do it the wrongest way possible.

hahha, nice, also you have very good voice

[dab88]

dab88 here, he can make new documentary about this

Why bother? It's already been made. If you truly think stunting is an art, let me give you a very strong analogy that parallels exactly what you've done.


"Tim's Vermeer" is a documentary following Tim Jenison's efforts to emulate the painting style and technique of Johannes Vermeer. Vermeer was a 17th century artist renowned for his realistic depictions of interior scenes with a mastery of capturing lighting effects that was completely unprecedented in that time.

Tim hypothesises that Vermeer painted with the help of optical devices. So, without any formal training or experience in painting with oils, he sets about recreating one of Vermeers most famous works: The Music Lesson.

After many months of effort Tim finishes the work. The end result is absolutely stunning and does indeed look just like a genuine Vermeer.

What does this mean? Tim still puts in months of effort to paint the piece. Even Vermeer required the ingenuinity to use the optical device method and had the ability to create the composition. But it also means anybody can do it.

I'd argue the impact of the piece comes in large part from the audience believing that somebody was capable of producing such works of art without aid, without "methods" that literally anyone could adopt. This is basically the same as what you have done.

Maybe I'm too much of an idealist but once the magic has gone, so does some of the joy.

[AllBeast]

dab88 here, he can make new documentary about this

Why bother? It's already been made. If you truly think stunting is an art, let me give you a very strong analogy that parallels exactly what you've done.


"Tim's Vermeer" is a documentary following Tim Jenison's efforts to emulate the painting style and technique of Johannes Vermeer. Vermeer was a 17th century artist renowned for his realistic depictions of interior scenes with a mastery of capturing lighting effects that was completely unprecedented in that time.

Tim hypothesises that Vermeer painted with the help of optical devices. So, without any formal training or experience in painting with oils, he sets about recreating one of Vermeers most famous works: The Music Lesson.

After many months of effort Tim finishes the work. The end result is absolutely stunning and does indeed look just like a genuine Vermeer.

What does this mean? Tim still puts in months of effort to paint the piece. Even Vermeer required the ingenuinity to use the optical device method and had the ability to create the composition. But it also means anybody can do it.

I'd argue the impact of the piece comes in large part from the audience believing that somebody was capable of producing such works of art without aid, without "methods" that literally anyone could adopt. This is basically the same as what you have done.

Maybe I'm too much of an idealist but once the magic has gone, so does some of the joy.

atleast his name same with mine

[kaneda]

Okay - I refrained from entering into this topic because I just didn't care. I never commented on Allbeasts vid (Limitless) because I agreed that some of the content of that vid looked highly suspect, and I couldn't honestly praise stunts that I thought were landed illegitimately, but also didn't want to bombard his thread with accusations that I couldn't substantiate beyond a reasonable doubt. So I took the option of not commenting at all, which I felt lousy about because Allbeast DID comment in my thread.

However, now that the reason behind the stunts looking odd and a bit dodgy is out there - I still don't really care. Whether or not this is a 'legit' method for landing a stunt is not for me to say. There seems to be equal opinion either way. If you're willing to go to such extreme measures to simply land a stunt in the pursuit of being the best or whatever...knock yourself out. Personally, I'll opt out of such shenanigans and just be happy to do what I feel like doing, and not give a crap where I stand in the pantheon of Vice City stunters. I've got a long list of stunts that I've given up on completely because I don't know that they're worth the investment.

I'm not sure where I sit on whether or not this is dishonest - it's a grey area for me. As has been mentioned in this thread there have been a shit-tonne of enhancements and tweaks to the game that have made stunting more convenient and much less time consuming. I don't know that anyone stunts with the default game anymore (although if there is - my hat's off to you), so one could consider Allbeasts method just another stage in that evolution. On the other hand, KingJad is right when he says that a stunt is the whole thing. A gymnast can't piece together the best attempts at a whole routine and call it a single routine. That's how I'll look at these stunts from Allbeast - separate pieces of a whole.

Allbeast, I'm not about to tear you a new one. You formulated a method that made it less time consuming to land stuff that you wanted - whatever. I think people's negative reaction to this method is understandable (if a little hyperbolic), and it's exacerbated by your brash grandstanding. Maybe tone that down a bit, acknowledge your method is a little like skipping to the head of the line and people might be a little more open to this.

...that's it.

P.S. I did like some of the idea of a lot of the stuff in Limitless - but that mental barrier of them looking weird is very hard to override.

[AllBeast]

Okay - I refrained from entering into this topic because I just didn't care. I never commented on Allbeasts vid (Limitless) because I agreed that some of the content of that vid looked highly suspect, and I couldn't honestly praise stunts that I thought were landed illegitimately, but also didn't want to bombard his thread with accusations that I couldn't substantiate beyond a reasonable doubt. So I took the option of not commenting at all, which I felt lousy about because Allbeast DID comment in my thread.

However, now that the reason behind the stunts looking odd and a bit dodgy is out there - I still don't really care. Whether or not this is a 'legit' method for landing a stunt is not for me to say. There seems to be equal opinion either way. If you're willing to go to such extreme measures to simply land a stunt in the pursuit of being the best or whatever...knock yourself out. Personally, I'll opt out of such shenanigans and just be happy to do what I feel like doing, and not give a crap where I stand in the pantheon of Vice City stunters. I've got a long list of stunts that I've given up on completely because I don't know that they're worth the investment.

I'm not sure where I sit on whether or not this is dishonest - it's a grey area for me. As has been mentioned in this thread there have been a shit-tonne of enhancements and tweaks to the game that have made stunting more convenient and much less time consuming. I don't know that anyone stunts with the default game anymore (although if there is - my hat's off to you), so one could consider Allbeasts method just another stage in that evolution. On the other hand, KingJad is right when he says that a stunt is the whole thing. A gymnast can't piece together the best attempts at a whole routine and call it a single routine. That's how I'll look at these stunts from Allbeast - separate pieces of a whole.

Allbeast, I'm not about to tear you a new one. You formulated a method that made it less time consuming to land stuff that you wanted - whatever. I think people's negative reaction to this method is understandable (if a little hyperbolic), and it's exacerbated by your brash grandstanding. Maybe tone that down a bit, acknowledge your method is a little like skipping to the head of the line and people might be a little more open to this.

...that's it.

P.S. I did like some of the idea of a lot of the stuff in Limitless - but that mental barrier of them looking weird is very hard to override.

like i said before, i watching to my video like to piece of art, i want to see how other people with better software and hardware will try to recreate it, i think most of them will just give up

[kaneda]

The art side of it is fine. The stunts as they play out in the vid are kinda like that, and I don't argue that at all. But I go back to the gymnast analogy. I guess it's a case of agree to disagree. Like I said I'm not about to label this method as modding a stunt, it's more a case of trimming the fat out of a stunt to avoid the 16,000 attempts you have to wade through until you get that one good one.

Just on a sidenote here, I wish your demeanor on the forums was as affable and likeable as it is in that explanation. That's the Allbeast I want to see. 

[AllBeast]

The art side of it is fine. The stunts as they play out in the vid are kinda like that, and I don't argue that at all. But I go back to the gymnast analogy. I guess it's a case of agree to disagree. Like I said I'm not about to label this method as modding a stunt, it's more a case of trimming the fat out of a stunt to avoid the 16,000 attempts you have to wade through until you get that one good one.

Just on a sidenote here, I wish your demeanor on the forums was as affable and likeable as it is in that explanation. That's the Allbeast I want to see. 

hahaha, i just trolling and have fun, and never taked anything serious, and most of people who know me in real life like me