About hazardous

[electric]

i wanna get your guys opinnion but i think there is something fishy going on in few of hazardous videos because

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 when he bumps and lands it is he just glitching or is there some antifall going on ?    same kind of stuff is going on in some other vids aswell   

[Raffal]

I have never played on PC but I think it helps a lot , that's all.

[SlayerUK]

This particular bump is actually a dynamic object, it breaks upon bumping so is less likely to make you bail. As for his other vids, I highly doubt he uses anti fall because you can clearly see him bail on attempts, it's more an issue with the Hakouchou, which is notably easy to stunt with, hence any good stunter dislikes the bike unless it's the only way to land the spot.

[VaNilla]

He is not using antifall, please don't listen to misinformation . He's using Simple Trainer's auto repair function, which results in a series of trails every time he takes damage. That's why his bumps look weird. You can always tell when he's faking a landing reaction too, because the series of trails are only visible in the Rockstar Editor.

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Just look at this, he's not reacting as he lands it, he's having a fake reaction while viewing the replay. Check out his landing at 5 minutes and 46 seconds, and see how that contrasts to his live attempts. He also faked his reaction in the video you linked first, and most of his videos on PC . Only other explanation is that he replaces his live attempts with a recording of the replay when he lands the stunt, and his reaction is in response to the live attempt.

[foresttravesty]

This particular bump is actually a dynamic object, it breaks upon bumping so is less likely to make you bail. As for his other vids, I highly doubt he uses anti fall because you can clearly see him bail on attempts, it's more an issue with the Hakouchou, which is notably easy to stunt with, hence any good stunter dislikes the bike unless it's the only way to land the spot.

there is literally only like 5 people in the world that think that using the Hak is against any kind of rule. it has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with personal preference.

[OrangeW]

This particular bump is actually a dynamic object, it breaks upon bumping so is less likely to make you bail. As for his other vids, I highly doubt he uses anti fall because you can clearly see him bail on attempts, it's more an issue with the Hakouchou, which is notably easy to stunt with, hence any good stunter dislikes the bike unless it's the only way to land the spot.

there is literally only like 5 people in the world that think that using the Hak is against any kind of rule. it has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with personal preference.

the issue with the haku is that a lot of people land ruffian-possible or bati-possible spots with the haku, making it 10x easier to do. not specifically with the haku

[VaNilla]

I think the Hakuchou is great personally, it just sucks when it's used to do stunts that are ten times harder without it. That goes for anything though, I hate seeing shit lamed with a Bati if it's unnecessary too . I think the double-standard is bad.

[Daffy]

Why is there such a pride in enduring misery when it comes to stunting?
I thought it was about creativity, if you have something better suited for a goal... why not use that so you can achieve more goals?
The ONLY time I've used a slower bike than the optimal one was when it had already been done with the one best suited for the job.

[Simon]

Feels better when it's harder, you know 

[Daffy]

Nice one.
I find the idea that a stunt is only 'good' because it's done with a lesser bike kinda troubling though.

[VaNilla]

I find the idea that a stunt is only 'good' because it's done with a lesser bike kinda troubling though.

I don't think it's that simple. Sometimes a spot looks visually incredible, but a fast bike is completely overkill for the situation. For instance, if you have a small ramp to wheelie to grind, why not use the most interesting bike possible? There is not necessarily any "misery" nor disadvantage in picking a slower bike under those circumstances, the spot is no more difficult than it would have otherwise been. However, if it's just a bump to roof that's possible with a slower bike, you might as well try a different spot entirely, because you could be doing better bumps. It all depends on the spot.

[Daffy]

you might as well try a different spot entirely

That kinda brings it full-circle back to my point though, that it's only a good stunt because it's done with a lesser bike.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not gonna claim that a stunt which involves bump that can be done with a Sanchez is just as good as if it's done with a Hakuchou, but I generally have no interest in doing a bump-based stunt that could be done with a Sanchez as it's not pushing the limits of the game in that direction.
On the other hand, if it's a combo where using the Hakuchou puts you at a disadvantage over using a slower bike but with other features better suited for the job, well then now we're talking.

My point is this:

the issue with the haku is that a lot of people land ruffian-possible or bati-possible spots with the haku, making it 10x easier to do.

Why'd you wanna do the Ruffian/Bati-possible spots in the first place if we're talking spots that is just a single bump to a landing when you could be pushing the limits way further in what's possible when it comes to those kinds of stunts using the bike best suited for that type of stunts?

[VaNilla]

My point is this:

the issue with the haku is that a lot of people land ruffian-possible or bati-possible spots with the haku, making it 10x easier to do.

Why'd you wanna do the Ruffian/Bati-possible spots in the first place if we're talking spots that is just a single bump to a landing when you could be pushing the limits way further in what's possible when it comes to those kinds of stunts using the bike best suited for that type of stunts?

I think that's my point exactly, but from a different perspective . Why would you land a stunt with the Hakuchou if it doesn't push the limits of what's possible with the Hakuchou? The easiest way to demonstrate this is by highlighting that these stunts could be landed with the Bati or the Ruffian, yet the Bati and the Ruffian are also capable of doing things that the Hakuchou can't do, so the rule isn't mutually exclusive. The most successful stunts take advantage of vehicles in such a way that undeniably makes them the ultimate choice for the spot in question.

Variety is also an important factor. You should never think about a stunt in a vacuum, you should think about how it fits into a video as a whole. You might find a bump that's visually amazing, but very easy to land with a fast motorbike. Why not do it with a dirt bike or a chopper bike? These bikes handle completely differently to super bikes, so they open up new avenues, and lead to more diverse and visually interesting final videos. Simply focusing on what advances big air stunting doesn't satisfy the desire to advance bumping under more limited scenarios.

[SlayerUK]

This particular bump is actually a dynamic object, it breaks upon bumping so is less likely to make you bail. As for his other vids, I highly doubt he uses anti fall because you can clearly see him bail on attempts, it's more an issue with the Hakouchou, which is notably easy to stunt with, hence any good stunter dislikes the bike unless it's the only way to land the spot.

there is literally only like 5 people in the world that think that using the Hak is against any kind of rule. it has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with personal preference.

Ok, and my preference is bati. It's a fact that hakouchou is easier to stunt with (faster, higher wheelie, etc.) this led to 90% of YT stunters bumping everything under the sun and getting huge air for little effort, no it's not illegal but it gets boring after a while.

I guess my general distaste for the hakouchou stems from a combination of videos full of uninspiring bumps and the addition of the bike which makes this even easier to do .

There's an audience for 'casual' stunting, but I'm certainly not part of it

[MrCooper]

It's all because its a dlc bike

I'll explain in simple words:
Hackouchu Dlc comes out
Noob be like "yh man this is the best moment of my life mom look at this slipstream stunt"
Stunter was like "Man fuck that baby ass bike bati 4 life"
Noob be like "Nah man this makes everything easier"
Feym and most of NU be like "lame"
Dicksucker community be like "same"

It's all because people were pushing the current best bikes' limits (bati and ruff) when the hack came out, and people were butthurt about how easy it made everything, so the standard was made so in which a stunt that CAN be done with bati/ruff SHALL be done with bati/ruff, if not, hackouchu