Ramps/Ability

[Rainbow]

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So I'll keep the ramps if needed (instead of packer), since also missing any vehicle spawning options at ps3/xbox.

Packers cannot be obtained in either SP or MP as a vehicle and then used for stunting (I think). So there is no need to say a ramp can replace them since packers are not there to be used. So it's adding a ramp again. There are so many spots out there, just try stunting without these silly things. Just my opinion, if you really want to feel free to use ramps but laaaaaaaaaaaaaame.

[ShuffleCrown]

I'd really prefer packers/carbumps over actual ramps being placed. It feels more legit and natural with a packer since it's a vehicle.
 Let me ask you guys. Which one you think looks better?(Ignore the fact that one is done by car and another is done by bike, just look at the method)

1:30 of this? - GTA V - Stunt Montage

or

2:16 of this? - GTA 5: Corrupt - A GTA 5 Stunt Montage

For me i'd prefer the car stunt because it's more legit in a way. Like dont you find it weird(even for the stunt shown at least) that there is a ramp sticking out near a house? lol

[MxZz.]

The ramp is not a vehicle. If you wanna have a legit way of using a ramp, use a cheetah, and that's it.

I have already said before on the topic how the cheetah is lower compared to a ramp 

Then don't use it, that's lame. Any stunts used with ramps (even if that's 1000ft height) are bad to my eyes. That's it. In our actual world, you're free to do whatever you want. You just wont get any good rewards from guys like us who care about it.

[Raffal]

I'd really prefer packers/carbumps over actual ramps being placed. It feels more legit and natural with a packer since it's a vehicle.
 Let me ask you guys. Which one you think looks better?(Ignore the fact that one is done by car and another is done by bike, just look at the method)

1:30 of this? - GTA V - Stunt Montage

or

2:16 of this? - GTA 5: Corrupt - A GTA 5 Stunt Montage

For me i'd prefer the car stunt because it's more legit in a way. Like dont you find it weird(even for the stunt shown at least) that there is a ramp sticking out near a house? lol

-The first video is more enjoyable to watch. Because the dude of the second video made ​​his stunt with a very bad  execution. (I do not see exactly but I think it has two ramps and then use a medium or large ramp) he should have put one small ramp at the grass and it will have been good. And for the first video it's impossible to do that in the storymode or alone in multiplayer So I do not think this is the solution.

The ramp is not a vehicle. If you wanna have a legit way of using a ramp, use a cheetah, and that's it.

I have already said before on the topic how the cheetah is lower compared to a ramp 

Then don't use it, that's lame. Any stunts used with ramps (even if that's 1000ft height) are bad to my eyes. That's it. In our actual world, you're free to do whatever you want. You just wont get any good rewards from guys like us who care about it.

-I know that you find stunts with ramps are lame. What I want to know it's why?

this is not a vehicle. But it can be placed anywhere on the map.

it is in the original game without any changes and it opens new possibilities.

Seriously it's cool and I think we should use it. I also prefer my good old packer. but since GTA IV unfortunately they are dead when we will not even wait for an update of the R * for they add .. and the cheetah has many problems.. both directly use unmodified ramps

[MxZz.]

And for the first video it's impossible to do that in the storymode or alone in multiplayer So I do not think this is the solution.

Sorry, but a stunt like that is way better than any ramped stunts. It's exactly the same as ztype, nothing lame there.

The ramp is not a vehicle. If you wanna have a legit way of using a ramp, use a cheetah, and that's it.

I have already said before on the topic how the cheetah is lower compared to a ramp 

Then don't use it, that's lame. Any stunts used with ramps (even if that's 1000ft height) are bad to my eyes. That's it. In our actual world, you're free to do whatever you want. You just wont get any good rewards from guys like us who care about it.

-I know that you find stunts with ramps are lame. What I want to know it's why?

this is not a vehicle. But it can be placed anywhere on the map.

it is in the original game without any changes and it opens new possibilities.

Seriously it's cool and I think we should use it. I also prefer my good old packer. but since GTA IV unfortunately they are dead when we will not even wait for an update of the R * for they add .. and the cheetah has many problems.. both directly use unmodified ramps

Why would you open new possibilites when you dont even do 1% of its possibilities? If your point is to make us accept  and enjoy it, you're wasting your time. It has been like that for years.

Anyway, I'll stop there, replying to you is a waste of time, you don't listen to anything we say.

[ShuffleCrown]

And for the first video it's impossible to do that in the storymode or alone in multiplayer So I do not think this is the solution.

For now it is not the solution. Because trying to do that alone and leaving the car there will make the car disappear because the game makes it in a way that when you go too far from something it will disappear
( I don't know how to explain it clearly but you should know what I mean).

But however, that only applies to the console version. If i'm not wrong in GTA IV PC you can put an infernus with a gas truck as a bump and leave it there for your run up and it still wont disappear. That should probably the case in the upcoming GTA V PC too. So therefore, a cheetah would be the solution, atleast for the future and by then, there shouldn't be any lame excuses for using ramps.

This is what I think. Overall, ramps are just unnatural unless it's a packer or a cheetah.

[Rainbow]

Seriously it's cool and I think we should use it.

 

I'll stop now as well.

[Raffal]

@mxZz :- "Sorry, but a stunt like that is way better than any ramped stunts."
              -Why?

-"Why would you open new possibilites when you dont even do 1% of its possibilities?"

-already I do not think there is only 1% of capacity GTAV. But mostly I want to open new possibilities to avoid always offer the same content again and again .. I did not say it would be THE change of the year but it would be interesting. As daffy said they have not reaches the limit on Vc and yet the game is out there over 10 years ago! xD I think it's just awesome that the stunters were able to do on the game and they did it by including advanced techniques when it opens new opportunity without abuse I do not see where is the problem?



-"you don't listen to anything we say."

-I listen. all I see is guys closed in on themselves prisoners of their habits. And especially the ramps are lame that's all. You do not oppose any arguments when I say that the cheetah has many weaknesses.

And for the first video it's impossible to do that in the storymode or alone in multiplayer So I do not think this is the solution.

( I don't know how to explain it clearly but you should know what I mean).

But however, that only applies to the console version. If i'm not wrong in GTA IV PC you can put an infernus with a gas truck as a bump and leave it there for your run up and it still wont disappear. That should probably the case in the upcoming GTA V PC too. So therefore, a cheetah would be the solution, atleast for the future and by then, there shouldn't be any lame excuses for using ramps.

This is what I think. Overall, ramps are just unnatural unless it's a packer or a cheetah.

-I'm a console stunter since a long time now, I've always known what you're talking about 


-"But however, that only applies to the console version. If i'm not wrong in GTA IV PC you can put an infernus with a gas truck as a bump and leave it there for your run up and it still wont disappear. That should probably the case in the upcoming GTA V PC too. So therefore, a cheetah would be the solution, atleast for the future and by then, there shouldn't be any lame excuses for using ramps.""



-So the solution for you is to wait the PC version coming? For the lucky few guys who will play properly without any lags .. it is a solution i guess  and for others?

[MxZz.]

@mxZz :- "Sorry, but a stunt like that is way better than any ramped stunts."
              -Why?

-"Why would you open new possibilites when you dont even do 1% of its possibilities?"

-already I do not think there is only 1% of capacity GTAV. But mostly I want to open new possibilities to avoid always offer the same content again and again .. I did not say it would be THE change of the year but it would be interesting. As daffy said they have not reaches the limit on Vc and yet the game is out there over 10 years ago! xD I think it's just awesome that the stunters were able to do on the game and they did it by including advanced techniques when it opens new opportunity without abuse I do not see where is the problem?



-"you don't listen to anything we say."

-I listen. all I see is guys closed in on themselves prisoners of their habits. And especially the ramps are lame that's all. You do not oppose any arguments when I say that the cheetah has many weaknesses.

We're not closed on ourselves, and we're not prisoners of our habits. That's our opinion, and that's how stunting have been for over 10years, and I don't see where V should change that. Just look at all of our 6 videos, we never used ramps, are the video bad? no. So why bothering trying to use ramps? There are enough spots on the map to land everybuilding without using these goddamn ramps, why would you take the easy way, and use them? Is the game too hard for you?

We already said, that you're free to do whatever you want. Just go ahead, land your stunts with your ramps. We told you our opinion, and you will not change it.

I've got nothing against you, but your attitude right now makes me want to slap you. 

[Simon]

Raffal, it's all about looks and taste. I think most people here would prefer a Natural stunt to any other type of stunt. And each to their own, but for me it's really like this:

Natural stunt > Secondary vehicle > added content creator props

[Raffal]

@mxZz :- "Sorry, but a stunt like that is way better than any ramped stunts."
              -Why?

-"Why would you open new possibilites when you dont even do 1% of its possibilities?"

-already I do not think there is only 1% of capacity GTAV. But mostly I want to open new possibilities to avoid always offer the same content again and again .. I did not say it would be THE change of the year but it would be interesting. As daffy said they have not reaches the limit on Vc and yet the game is out there over 10 years ago! xD I think it's just awesome that the stunters were able to do on the game and they did it by including advanced techniques when it opens new opportunity without abuse I do not see where is the problem?



-"you don't listen to anything we say."

-I listen. all I see is guys closed in on themselves prisoners of their habits. And especially the ramps are lame that's all. You do not oppose any arguments when I say that the cheetah has many weaknesses.

We're not closed on ourselves, and we're not prisoners of our habits. That's our opinion, and that's how stunting have been for over 10years, and I don't see where V should change that. Just look at all of our 6 videos, we never used ramps, are the video bad? no. So why bothering trying to use ramps? There are enough spots on the map to land everybuilding without using these goddamn ramps, why would you take the easy way, and use them? Is the game too hard for you?

We already said, that you're free to do whatever you want. Just go ahead, land your stunts with your ramps. We told you our opinion, and you will not change it.

I've got nothing against you, but your attitude right now makes me want to slap you. 

-This is what you really think? This is an easy way to do the stunt? I see this as a different way of doing stunt not easier. If tomorrow we tolerate stunts with ramps I agree that in the beginning it will be easy to find P2B Building. but once the obvious spots are old, the real challenge begins.

- and this is why this debate is interesting   

Raffal, it's all about looks and taste. I think most people here would prefer a Natural stunt to any other type of stunt. And each to their own, but for me it's really like this:

Natural stunt > Secondary vehicle > added content creator props

For me :

 Natural stunt > a stunt with a secondary  vehicle or a single ramp unmodified

everything else like Moon gravity , cap of franklin , boost on wall , all other items from content creator  even if it is a secondary object (bumps, containers ..), modified ramps are lame and cheats for me .

[MrC]

Natural stunt > Secondary vehicle > added content creator props

Sign that one.
Always using what the game itself offers was the most blasting impressive stuff to me at any game, secondary vehicle bumps are also fine - thats also why stunt with modded vehicles been always kinda lame/boring to me (worked with VCs and SA handling configs a lot, so I knew it's options).
But also back in SA (skiped IV) a placed ramp was also fine to me instead of a packer - as wrote before, while it's used the same way. not at any spacy-unreal-nowhere places.

But the scondary vehilce option seems very limited in V, at least at ps3/xbox because of disappearing cars. Maybe theres a solution due modified OS which allow modding games, similar to SACC and co...

[Raffal]

  And can somebody atleast show me 1 good stunt that had ramps which could not be possible otherwise?

challengegtas








The first clip: In this example I will show you a spot where I use the ramp to get more speed on a platform. Without the ramp you can't land on the second container; ). I did it in training but I did not rec at this time sorry. I guess, this is not the best example.

The Second clip : A classic stunt using unmodified ramp as P2B. I do not see how this is lame?

The third clip: A good natural stunt (I think). but impossible to take without a ramp.


I think I can do better these stunts were done very soon. I do not usually find spots like this .. this is just a small idea of what may have to do with ramps and I find it interesting 

[MxZz.]

"The Second clip : A classic stunt using unmodified ramp as P2B. I do not see how this is lame?"
Real packer moves, and bumps are harder to get compared to a sticky ramp. Still, the fact of adding an object, is lame. 

"The third clip: A good natural stunt (I think). but impossible to take without a ramp."
I think it's possible to get a bonk on the left part of the road to get over the bushes there

The ptb-like-ramped looked great, but still, I'd rather see a natural stunt, than a ramped thing like that.

[Nitromanic]

"The third clip: A good natural stunt (I think). but impossible to take without a ramp."
I think it's possible to get a bonk on the left part of the road to get over the bushes there

I have tried that third stunt with Ghost before, it is possible without ramp.