GTA5 Bike Grab is POSSIBLE and easy

[MichaelAverage]

Hey guys, i know about this for a long time, (i discovered this first week of GTA5) but i havent made clip or a video of this but today i feel like sharing

here is video proof that bike grab is possible and not that hard
Bike Grab
tutorial, in GTA when you are in air and you jump out from the bike youll get reet when you are in air, i dont know why this reset is happening but it will help you to land on your feet, all you need is luck or just a wall that will stop your bike from sliding away from you and you are set.

i apologize if some of you stunting masterminds already did topic or video with this trick coz i dont follow stunting as much as i did in past

Have a fun

[Rainbow]

Don't think anyone has found this yet (or we see a Vanilla comment soon with the text "Found this months ago but never really found a spot for it"). It's a nice method but I think it's hard to find a great spot for it sadly 

[VaNilla]

Nice, never though of this for grabbing . Hate to oblige Rainbow but I'll upload something else you can do with it in a second .

EDIT: You can use the bail state reset to land perfectly on foot at any position. While gliding, let go of the analogue stick and bail at the same time. Have fun with it . This was recorded in December.

rainbowpls

[ShuffleCrown]

Someone in DSS tried doing a grab in GTAV as well. I do not have the permission to post it here though, I'll try to do it sometime maybe. Basically the method was having the bike laid on the edge of a building almost about to fall off, then he used the explosive punch/kick cheat, he kicked the bike(it moved because of the explosion) and got on it while it was dropping. It looked hilarious though and wasn't that smooth. But still a grab.

[VaNilla]

Don't know if this will come off as pretentious, but can we please not call this the "Kwebbail" as Kwebellkop has been in his recent videos? Tired of him taking other people's shit and claiming it as his own... airgrab, bail method, anything would be better . You shouldn't name something after yourself if you didn't discover it.

Examples (Video 2:11-2:41)

GTA 5 Funny Moments - Hit A Stunt Episode 24 - (GTA V Online Games Stunts)

https://twitter.com/Kwebbelkop/status/480311315253432320
https://twitter.com/Kwebbelkop/status/480425714135474177

Irony

https://twitter.com/Kwebbelkop/status/481935746077827072
https://twitter.com/Kwebbelkop/status/481935833243856897
https://twitter.com/Kwebbelkop/status/481935949690322944
https://twitter.com/Kwebbelkop/status/481936922567536642

This is not the only thing either. For instance, the guy sees people land certain stunts, takes the exact same spot, lands it (sometimes claims that he's "never seen it before"), and then fails to credit the original founder. This may be understandable if they were all completely generic spots, but not when it comes to stunts like these, which are exact carbon copies:

GTA 5 Funny Moments - Stunts For Dummies - Episode 12 - GTA 5 Online

Originally hit by Solar Stunting (2:08):

GTA 5 STUNTS - Hazardous Stunt Challenge - Cars

He then goes on to dismiss these claims in the commentary of this video...

GTA 5 Funny Moments - Water Stunt For Dummies - (GTA V Online Games)

Yet makes comments like these...



Which directly contradict what he says in his videos...



Don't get me wrong, he seems like a cool guy, and he makes great videos (I've watched them all), and it's cool to try stunts that other people have found (like he says, nobody "owns" a spot). He also did a really good thing for the stunting community by pushing his audience to message Rockstar about gliding, which is undoubtedly one of the biggest reasons why they changed it back.

SAVE GTA 5 STUNTS - @RockstarGames
GTA 5 STUNTS ARE BACK! - THANK YOU @RockstarGames

But when you have a large audience like he does, and you focus a whole video specifically on one stunt, you should at least credit those who found the stunt. If you don't, people come under the impression that you discovered it yourself.

If you don't know who did it, you should at least admit that you have seen the spot in another video, especially when it's an exact carbon copy like above. I think the same should apply to the now so-called "Kwebbail". Kwebellkop, if you're reading this, please stop it.

[MxZz.]

Send him the topic, I doubt he's going to join GTAS, the place of mainstream stunters

[Kwebbelkop]

Dear Vanilla and the whole GTAStunting Community,

This post cought my eye, someone linked it and I'm always happy when people talk about me. In a positive, and in a negative way since that way I can work on improving myself and my life. Thanks for that.

At first I'd like to clear this up, and it seems that I have to say this to pretty much everyone. I'm an "entertainer", YouTube is my fulltime job and I'm really enjoying it. Stunting is a big part of it, but as you can clearly see on my channel I ONLY do let's plays and I don't really have time for Stunt Montages.

Everything I do in my videos is to entertain my fans, to entertain the community. I do funny things, I do silly things and I do stupid things. As you stated later on in your post, I've don a lot of good things for the stunting community because I feel like doing so. I feel that I'm one of the biggest regual GTA 5 Stunter, not claiming to be the best (by FAR) and I'm also not saying I'm the biggest, just saying that I'm kinda big and I do GTA 5 Stunts.

So recently I started doing the jump off, airgrab, bail method stunt thingy. I saw it in your lighthouse stunt and I also did it myself on accident a while back (the airgrab stunt). You said: "Tired of him taking other people's shit and claiming it as his own" I never said that this is my stunt, I also never CLAIMED that I found it. All I did was ask my Kops (I don't like calling them subscribers) what we should call this stunt.

There are a few reason I did this. First of all, I want to get an as close bond as possible with my subs, this is really hard but we mainly do this by giving this names and comming up with silly things people like to talk about. An example is the Epic Effect, Epic Explosion and Do You Even Stunt Bro meme. The second reason was to get people to talk about it. This can be in a good way, this can be in a bad way, but talking about something or someone = promotion. And promotion (doesn't matter if it's good or bad) = gain (in views, subs, money, fame, girls /whatever)

You quote: "You shouldn't name something after yourself if you didn't discover it." I agree, I also never claimed that I did discover it, but as I said earlier, it's just a nickname me and my kops will have. I hope you understand my choice and I hope this won't offend/hurt you too much. (I hope this clears this bit up)

Lets move on.

The Irony bit: I tweeted a few tweets as you can beautifully see over there. I'm glad you took your time to sort them out, but you looked at it with the wrong perspective. I was browsing youtube as I do on a daily basis and I saw pretty much 3-4 youtubers that do the exact same thing as me. Same kind of videos (Funny Moments), with the same titles, same descriptions, same tags. Also some of my Minecraft videos got copied, some of my series got copied and a few more things I don't support.

Now let's move on to your "Stunt Spot Copying". As I've said multiple times in multiple videos, you can't own a stunt. This is ATLEAST how I look at this. I sometimes claim that I've never seen the stunt, because I've genuanly never seen it. I might have seen a variation of the stunt, or someone told me to do his stunt and that is what I do. Let me give you an example. Stunter "A" hits a stunt, he posts it on youtube. Stunter B sees the stunt, does something similar from it (maybe a bit harder), uploads it to youtube and sends it to me. I watch the stunt/stunt-montage and for stunting for dummies or Hit a Stunt decide that I need a stunt. I ask him, if I can hit it and use it in my video and he says he's all cool. Now as I already said, I've never seen the stunt. Of course I've seen stunts that look a lot like them, but then I would be giving lists and lists of credits. But I've NEVER seen someone hit stunt A, and since it's almost the exact same stunt with a few changes then I could say that I've never seen it. HOWEVER I remember this 1 video where I did see the stunt but I said I never saw it, and I'd like to appologise for this. It was just a mistake during the recording, and I couldn't be asked to record it again. However, I never hit that stunt so YEAH.

Lets continue the "Original Founder" dilema. If I'd be to give 1 person credits, and I've done this multiple times. Then I get spammed in the description or on skype that I wasn't the first one to hit it. Even though, I'm 100% sure about the person who hit it the first time, and I give him credits in the video or in the description, even after that I get bashed at in the comments of people "claiming" to be the first one to hit it. I've had this with the Solar Stunting stunt because I thought someone else hit it first since he showed me. I decided that not giving any credits to anyone is the best.

We also create another problem. And that's where I draw the line. Let's say you land on a building, you're the first one and claim to be the first one. Then I hit a stunt that is on the same building, but we came from 2 different directions. Who owns the stunt spot thingy then? Some might say that they landed it first because they own the building or something. And if I'd be to credit someone else then they will get mad, even though they never landed that stunt. Same thing goes for hitting stunts with bikes instead of cars, with boosters and or without boosters, hitting something with a ramp, or without a ramp, hit a stunt while jumping of your bike (whatever you would like to call this) and you can keep on going.

If I claim that person A found the stunt, then person D will show up and tell me he hit a stunt that looked a lot like it. Then after that person K would jump in and claim that he landed it with a bike and it will keep on going like this. I decided that we shouldn't be claiming stunt spots, nor ask for credits. Because all it does is cause drama. I've been in some drama with a stunter a while back. And the whole drama started with him using a spot I showed him. After looking back on it, it was pretty stupid. I like to say: "It's only game, why you heff to be mad."

I hope I cleared this up for you. Lets move on to the "Contradict" part. You showed 2 of my tweets, 1 about copying and then one where I say that I support copying. As I said earlier, the copying thing was about YouTubers stealing WAY more things (in my eyes also more important things) then just a stunt spot. Might have been confusing, but I'd love to give you guys some examples. (In private though)

I'm also happy that you're enjoying my videos. I spend a lot of time making them, and since you're a Kop (Whatever you feel like calling this) I took the time to reply to your post. As you can see I take my job seriouse, and I hope you understand that I don't just ghosts around and screw my fans all the time.

I hope this cleared up everything you said. Feel free to ask me some more questions if you didn't understand something. (I'm Dutch so my English might sick here and there)

I'm also glad that you took your time to write such a nice post about me. It shows that you genguanly follow me and my things, and I'm glad you do! (Also, there was no sarcasm in this whole post. I'm being seriouse for ones)

I'd also like to point out again that I'm a YouTuber/Entertainer. Not someone that does videos every now and then, I actually do 3 a day. I have to create 2 and upload 3, I also  need to manage some more channels I'm helping out at the moment and manage different socialmedia. I simply don't have enough time to do most things, for example finding an original spot and then looking over youtube and asking people if they saw someone else hit the spot. I work atleast 10 hours a day and I wrote this whole post right before the recording. I didn't have breakfast yet and I hope this shows that I actually care about most people.

I'd also like to point out that I do most of these things for the community. If I do a stunt in Hit a stunt then thousands of people replicate the stunt. (I have proof, since I most of the time use goo.gl links to see how many clicks the race gets I created) Stunting after all is something we should have fun at doing. I don't like the whole competitive valvue of it some people create, and I'd rather live in a world where everyone is nice towards eachother and doesn't make it TOO competitive. This is also the reason I started up Vaktik, it's just a community, not a team and we certainly not claim to be the best, and if we do so then that's just a joke.

I'd like everyone to be nice towards eachother and I hope you understand that I can't give everyone credits. The Kwebbail is just a nickname some people could use, if they would like to. (EDIT: Changed a few things, since it was a bit confusing over here)

TLDR; Go read it, I didn't type this for nothing YOU LAZY STUNTER!

I'm also open for questions, no idea how this forum works though since this is my first post.

-Kwebbelkop/Kwebbelcop/Co-owner of Vaktik/Jordi/Stunting N00b suck/scrublord

(I'm also dislexic and English isn't my mother toungh, so I'm sorry if I repeated some things or if it looks like it doesn't make any sence)

[Daffy]

Now let's move on to your "Stunt Spot Copying". As I've said multiple times in multiple videos, you can't own a stunt. This is ATLEAST how I look at this. "+++ lots of text."

While I agree with that it's kinda strange to claim ownership over getting from a specific part of the map everyone plays on to another I also see the other side of the arguement which is that when you see a stunt for the first time, that's when it has that x-factor and the biggest impact on you as a viewer.
Finding a new spot is a huge part of what stunting is and without the discoveries of them stunting as we know it would not last very long, and the technical ability to perform a stunt is not in and of itself enough unless you have somewhere to use it which requires a spot.
If a person just wants to do stunts, whether the spots are new or not I have no issue with that whatsoever but I feel like it's a fair acknowledgement and a way to give back to the person who inspired you to do that stunt in the first place, and giving basically a small shout-out back is nothing but a positive jolt of encouragement that I don't see a problem with.
So while you can't own or claim copyright on a stunt or a spot, I don't see a reason either why it's bad to send some love to the people that try to keep it fresh.

Competition brings out the bad side of people, I'd rather have us be nice towards eachother and I hope you understand that I can't give everyone credits. The Kwebbail is just a nickname some people could use, if they would like to.

Competition emphasizes the character of the person competing, if he's an honorable person he (or she for that matter) will compete with honor, but if it's a person with a weak character it will show up in how they compete.
There's nothing wrong with competition in and of itself, it's just people who are inspired by someone to challenge themselves or others, it's all about how you compete... I'm sure you don't get 270k subs without a natural sense of what to do to contiually grow.

Being competitive doesn't mean you can't be nice too, they're not mutually exclusive, hell if you weren't nice while being competitive your channel probably wouldn't have grown. If anything being competitive is just about having ambitions, being nice or bad is how you manage and act upon those ambitions and whether it's in balance with having fun or having fun on someone elses expense.

[Simon]

Now let's move on to your "Stunt Spot Copying". As I've said multiple times in multiple videos, you can't own a stunt. This is ATLEAST how I look at this.

Of course you can't, but if you show someone a spot you're trying and they take it and land it without telling you, you can't deny the fact that that is a fucking shitty move. Though I'm not implying that you've done such a thing, just sharing my opinion on the whole spot business. If he found it and landed it on his own then that's fine. I don't think you would need to give credit to anyone, shit happens. If you actually saw it from someone first I guess you could say exactly that, that you watched someone do it and it looked like fun. But generally I don't give a flying shit whether you credit people or not.

Let's say you land on a building, you're the first one and claim to be the first one. Then I hit a stunt that is on the same building, but we came from 2 different directions. Who owns the stunt spot thingy then?

That would be two different stunts my friend, a spot isn't defined by just the landing, but by every part of the stunt. If we bumped two different things but landed the same roof, they are different. Just as if we bumped the same thing and landed two different roofs, they would be different. And you should never claim to be the first, it's a stupid thing to do, especially on YouTube, where someone is constantly looking for things to bitch about.



All in all, do whatever the fuck you want, man. Personally I don't watch your stuff, nor do I really care what you and your fans call this thing or any thing for that matter. No idea why people are making a deal out of it at all, as it really doesn't affect this community.

[VaNilla]

Thanks for replying Kwebbel. I've read your whole post, and while I understand where you're coming from, there are two things I take away from this:

1. It would be really easy for you to put a note in the description of your videos to say whether or not the stunt you are trying (or the method you are using) is an original discovery, or not. At least, to the best of your knowledge. Nobody is holding you to such a standard whereby you have to watch 100s of videos a day just to make sure you're not copying anything or claiming that something's original when it has been done before .

However, if you know that what you're trying has been done before, that's why the pointer as to whether or not it's an original finding (to the best of your knowledge) would be great. The reason I say this is that you're arguably the most well known stunter in the world, and for that reason, most of your audience assumes that everything you do is that of your own discovery and intuition.

2. It still rubs me the wrong way that you use the term "Kwebbail" to describe the method. I know, it's just a game, it's not serious, but just look at the comments on your videos. Some of your audience will go as far as "correcting" someone who calls it the "jump off method" or a variation on these terms, because they are of the belief that you found the method and that's why it's named after you.

To draw a comparison, we have a method used in Vice City and San Andreas called the "RAD method", where you gain speed by staying in a wheelie and tapping lean forwards.

Leasson #1 - Wheelie, Stopie & RAD's Method

The reason it's called the "RAD method" is because RAD found it. Ever since he discovered it, people have used his name to describe the method. So you can understand that when someone discovers something on their own, it doesn't feel amazing to see the most popular stunter on YouTube take that method and name it after themselves. That invariably leads their audience to believe that they are the founder.

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I have nothing against you, like I said, without you I don't think we would have got gliding back. Additionally, you seem like a great person. It's just something that rubbed me the wrong way, just like the "hit a stunt" videos, and I had to put it out there.

[Outlaw Penguin]

I'd also like to point out that I do most of these things for the community. If I do a stunt in Hit a stunt then thousands of people replicate the stunt. (I have proof, since I most of the time use goo.gl links to see how many clicks the race gets I created) Stunting after all is something we should have fun at doing. I don't like the whole competitive valvue of it some people create, and I'd rather live in a world where everyone is nice towards eachother and doesn't make it TOO competitive. This is also the reason I started up Vaktik, it's just a community, not a team and we certainly not claim to be the best, and if we do so then that's just a joke.



-I have 2 questions for you Kwebbel: 1. Have you blocked me? Because you asked me to join Vaktik and then when you couldn't find my skype you just stopped replying. I'm not trying to be mean. Just wondering. 2. Why are you not okay with other people using a series called "Hit a Stunt" when they could be doing something completely different.

[Kwebbelkop]

I have another little question. Hitting a stunt that has NEVER been hit before, but based on a stunt "spot" that was found by someone else, is that also copying?

Lets say there are 3 buildings, A, B and C. The closest one is A. After that B, and after that C. If Stunter 1 lands on building A, then stunter 2 lands on building C, is that copying? They did the same stunt 'Spot' but stunter 2 landed a different stunt.

Now I have another question, lets say stunter 1 lands on building C with a bike, then stunter 2 lands on building C with a CAR. Is that also copying? It was a different stunt right? Now what if it's bike first, and then stunter 2 lands it with a boat? IS that also copying?

And 1 more question, let's say stunter 1 lands on building B with a bike, then stunter 2 lands on building B with a air-grab, jump-off, kwebbail (whatevs you like to call it) IS THAT ALSO COPYING?

Lets say all of these examples took place on the exact same stunt spot, however there were different stunts you could do.

I got accused of copying once again, even though I tried my best to come up with an original stunt (not spot, I also never claimed that and in the video I even addressed this)

I landed a air-grab, jump-off, kwebbail (whatevs you like to call it) stunt on a windmill, and someone else did the same stunt spot but landed it while sitting on his bike.

Please stay nice, I'm just asking a question because everyone seems to be contradicting eachother and it also seems that people are just trying to find excuses to blame me of copying. (Penguin and Turttuutuuutu that is)

[ShuffleCrown]

As long as the spot where you bumped off and the building that you landed is the same as the person who did it first, it is copying. Type of vehicle doesn't matter because the idea is still the same. It's like a matching game. If BOTH bump/jump-off and landing are exactly the same as the first person who did it, that's copying. But as long as one of them is different that should be okay.

But technically, as long as you seen a spot from someone and you wanna re-do it but trying in a different way it still might be considered copying because it is not yours in the first place. Best if you have YOUR OWN ORIGINAL SPOT. (You should know that yourself and its up to your conscience)

Most of your hit a stunt were already found by people. In fact, I would be surprise if I see you have an original spot for your next episode( Take that as a challenge  )


And BTW, I saw one of your videos saying that the bail reset is clearly as stunt and people say it's not. Let me tell you that it is not a stunt. It's a bail afterall. Only when you're sitting in your vehicle then it's a stunt. Okay as long as the precision you're landing is able to be landed by a bike DONT BOTHER doing it with a reset. (like the windmill you did) it doesn't look good at all. Unless you wanna try the bail reset on a palm tree where a bike couldn't stand still on two wheels then sure. Otherwise no. It's ugly as fuck.

[Outlaw Penguin]

If you hit a stunt off of the same stunt spot but land on a different building it is a whole new stunt. Like the airport ramps for example. People landed inside the parking garage, on top of the parking garage, on the airport tower, on the other parking garage, and some other buidlings further away. Each of those is a different stunt.

[Kwebbelkop]

Sir Shuffle_Crown, here's episode 26 of HAS: GTA 5 Funny Moments - Hit A Stunt Episode 26 - (GTA V Online Games Stunts) Enjoy!


(Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've never seen this stunt before )