"Gliding" has been removed.

[VaNilla]

It's a shame they didn't only change it for pedal bikes I guess. Is it just me or does it look like they have made bikes fall faster even when the right way up?

Bikes always fell at this rate without any adjustment on the analogue stick. However, I've noticed that the change to gliding has also affected grinding and wallrides. You now have much less velocity while grinding (you're technically hovering in the air), and in some situations, wallrides simply drop you off.

[SlayerUK]

No way

So unexpected, I mean I can understand why they wouldn't want flying bmx's but still I thought it would just be one of those little harmless quirks that goes unchanged.

But to change the physics for every single bike this drastically is such a disappointment, I have no words for how much this sucks for stunting.

Sorry FloW but since you don't stunt V you really have no idea how much this sucks, this method makes stunting in V so much fun and as SS has stated it will affect not just bumps but wallrides and all sorts...

[FloW]

I didn't know it affects something else From SS' second post it seemed like rage about big airs being impossible, but if it affects other stuff then it sucks.

[VaNilla]

Just sent them the following message, hopefully they will read it. Going to wait on reverting back to the previous patch until I hear back from them (or don't).

Hey guys,

My name is [redacted], better known as "Shadowsniper" or "VaNillaGTA" from GTAStunting.net. Firstly, I want to thank everyone at Rockstar for supporting our website in the past. You have really helped out the community by posting our videos from GTA Vice City and GTA V on Rockstar Newswire.

http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/51646/crew-cut-amazing-stunts-a-rooftop-battle-royale-and-more-crew-ac.html

http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/52064/fan-videos-street-and-sky-stunt-montages-nikos-yoga-session-and-.html

http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/46251/vintage-vice-city-stunt-videos-via-youtube.html

Regretfully, the latest update to Grand Theft Auto V has introduced changes to the game that have destroyed stunting as we know it. The removal of "gliding" has changed bike stunting so dramatically that the stunting community can no longer continue to support GTA V.

I have been stunting Grand Theft Auto for 8 years, and been a major advocate of the stunting community. In 2012, I was voted GTAStunting's "Best Stunter of the Year" in GTA San Andreas (http://www.gtastunting.net/index.php?topic=62670.0).

Presently, I am working on GTA V under the moniker of "VaNillaGTA". I have appeared in Nomad Union's very first video (promoted by Rockstar Newswire in October), and I have been working on a GTA V Stunt Montage since September, up until March. Unfortunately, the new update has invalidated six months worth of my work, and invalidated every single stunting video released to date. Nomad Union, Kwebellkop, RedKeyMon, BenBuja... everyone has been negatively affected by this change.

Now, I'm assuming that gliding was removed because of the "BMX Flight Glitch". When gliding with the BMX, you were able to fly indefinitely, because the mass value of the BMX is much lower than that of the general Motorbikes used for stunting (Bati, Ruffian). Even BMX stunting has taken a hit, because as a result of the new update, you can't combine distance flight with stoppies, grinds, and other interesting methods.

The behavior which caused this glitch was also shared by Motorbikes. However, gliding is vital to motorbike stunting in GTA V, so the new update has left GTAStunting in an impossible predicament. Let me walk you through the problem.

When bumping and/or ramping with motorbikes, gliding allowed you gain much more height from the ground, and significantly slow the descent of your flight. Additionally, it allowed you to change direction mid air. Finding the "sweet spot" took great skill, and depending on your level of skill, you could take advantage of it to great degrees. Gliding has been used in every GTA V stunting video to date. Without gliding, motorbike stunting ceases to exist, because without it, you simply can't land stunts with impressive results. With the latest update, the potential height and distance you can gain from a bump is almost ten times lower than it was in the past.

Clearly, gliding was not created by design. But now, every stunt video released so far looks ridiculous, because every single one has taken advantage of the gliding method. Tragically, to those who've been diligently working away on unreleased videos (like myself), this is also a major setback. If we release our stunts now, they will look faked, because you can't glide in game any more. Frankly, the latest update has ruined stunting as we know it. The following video perfectly demonstrates what I'm talking about.

STUNTING IN THE NEW UPDATE (1.11) (Explanation)

The logic behind your decision to gliding is questionable at best. You are trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. Sure, you've fixed the glitch, but you've destroyed motorbike stunting. Thousands of people are stunting GTA V, millions of people are watching GTA V stunt videos, but now that gliding has been removed, everyone who loved stunting in the past can longer continue to support it. We currently have a discussion going about this at GTAStunting, you can check it out here (http://www.gtastunting.net/index.php?topic=65621).

I have a message for you from every member of the GTA V stunting community. Please revert the new changes to gliding. We want you to change it so that gliding behaves the same way it did in version 1.10. It needs to be exactly the same as it used to be, or there will still be a disparity between every stunt that's been landed so far, and every stunt that gets landed in the future.

It hurts to have been working on stunts for six months, only to have it ruined by changes that didn't need to be made. Here's some unlisted YouTube clips that demonstrate what I've been working on so far (for private viewing only). All of these stunts will be going into my first GTA V Stunt Montage.

[redacted]

We at GTAStunting would love to hear back from you. Be it myself, Ben Buja, Hazardous, Kwebellkop, Nomad Union, or the stunting community at large, we are anxiously awaiting your response. Without the reversal of the new changes to "gliding", we will be forced to severely step back motorbike stunting in GTA V.

Yours Faithfully,

[redacted] (Shadowsniper, VaNillaGTA).

[xxBAghostxx]

This really sucks. As some people have said, i do understand why they would want to take flying bmx's out. But I really don't get why they would change the physics. And if this also messes with wallrides and grinds then this really sucks. I really do hope they change this 

[VaNilla]

The problem is that the behavior that causes the BMX Flight Glitch is shared by motorbikes. This behavior is what makes Gliding possible. But in the general, GTA V motorbikes weigh approximately two times as much as the BMX (based on the handling.dat mass values). With the BMX, gliding is effectively two times as powerful as it is on a motorbike.

They should revert gliding back to the way it is was at the start, because otherwise there will be a massive disparity between what's been released in the past, and what's going to be released in the future. However, there is a compromise. If they simply raised the "mass" value of the BMX, Scorcher, and any other biycle, the BMX Flight Glitch would be solved, but Gliding would stay the same. If they can't bring themselves to "unfix" the BMX Flight Glitch, they should compromise at the very least.

UPDATE: Please upvote this on Reddit to help bring this issue to Rockstar's attention.

http://www.reddit.com/r/GrandTheftAutoV/comments/1zkp60/dear_rockstar_please_revert_the_changes_to_gliding/

[Shifftee]

That video that Shadowsniper posted just made me want to cry. Man, that was dramatic.
You should update the topic title with "Don't visit this topic if high."

[ShuffleCrown]

Gonna try to help as much as I can, I saw someone posted about this before I sleep and I questioned him if this was really true. Couldn't sleep last night. Haha. Shadowsniper, you can also post this on the rockstar support website. And we can help you make it the trending topic there. Surprisingly, rockstar admins do actually reply if the topic gets lots of feedbacks and stuff. Recently, for me, there was a problem in GTAO in my country(Singapore) and many people complained about it and stuff. There were admin replies out there. One reason why I cannot go in GTAO until now:( it already sucks and this update "fix" also had to come. I'm having a bad day lol. (https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/communities/public/questions/200795453-Calling-all-Singapore-GTAO-Players-) that's just the topic I was talking about. Shall not proceed to that any further. Just saying that you can try reporting at the rockstar support website itself and see your luck. Hope I helped somehow.

[SlayerUK]

Can anyone see them mention this change in the patch notes? I can't find anything relating to it, damn stealth nerf.

[ShuffleCrown]

Can anyone see them mention this change in the patch notes? I can't find anything relating to it, damn stealth nerf.

Nope, I read it all up but I do not see anything mentioning the specific word "gliding" or airtime or whatever. But I think one of those listed down relates to it. I dont know which one specifically. So maybe it is rockstar trying to remove glitches triggered it.

[Daffy]

It was fun while it lasted...

Not to be a dick but I'm glad they removed it. That stunt from video you posted looks just retarded. He is flying with a bike like it was a plane. Come on just look at it

Bitch, are you fucking retarded?

[KillaMarci]

As much as this sucks I don't think Rockstar will intentionally unfix a bug that they fixed before. This might be it for V, what a shitty way to go.


This is the equivalent of tapping forward getting fixed in SA. Well done Rockstar.

[ShuffleCrown]

I installed the 1.11 update onto a seperate USB drive. Remove the drive and you can still stunt on 1.10 single player.

This update sucks

Anyone else tried doing this method? I did the same but when I remove it and try to load without the drive, my console freezes. But when I play with my usb drive on even though the loaded game is in my Hard Drive. it works but it seems like the gliding is also removed even in single player.

[STREEM]

Not to be a dick but I'm glad they removed it. That stunt from video you posted looks just retarded. He is flying with a bike like it was a plane. Come on just look at it

Bitch, are you fucking retarded?

The airtime looked like shit, a guy heading the same way with his bike all the time, switching position after 10seconds of flying, wow.

[ShuffleCrown]

Not to be a dick but I'm glad they removed it. That stunt from video you posted looks just retarded. He is flying with a bike like it was a plane. Come on just look at it

Bitch, are you fucking retarded?

The airtime looked like shit, a guy heading the same way with his bike all the time, switching position after 10seconds of flying, wow.

Have you even played GTA 5? tried stunting in the game? Because I think these type of comments come from people who don't stunt in GTA 5. I dont think people who dont stunt in GTA 5 understand