GTX 770 4Gb

[jooker]

Hey guys, I'm planning to buy a GTX 770, but I just can't choose.
ASUS GTX770 4gb or Gigabyte GTX770 4Gb Windforce?
Which one do you prefer/recommend guys?

[Blaze]

They're essentially the same card except the manufacturer produces the cooler/heatsink and slaps their logo on, so just go with whichever coolers better. I looked up temperature tests for Furmark (basically its a stress test for the GPU), Asus card was at 57c after 15 minutes whereas the gigabyte one was at 80c, so I'd go with the Asus.

[PK]

Definitely ASUS, as Blaze said.

[Rusch69]

What's your budget and will you really need 4 GB VRAM? Also, is NVIDIA indispensable for you?

If you definately want a GTX 770 with 4 GB, get the ASUS one. It is cool and quiet. The Gigabyte one is a tiiiiiiiny bit faster as it is clocked higher, so I assume it's getting warmer due to increased voltage (haven't looked up the specs, just assuming). In a comparison of 6 GTX 770's I read, the Gigabyte wasn't getting thaaaat much hotter either.

[Dom]

http://ipon.hu/webshop/product/gigabyte_gv_n770oc_4gd_gtx770_4gb_gddr5_pcie____/479979
I just bought this one a month ago, and it's simply fucking awesome. totally quiet, I can barely hear it, and works like a charm

[Nager]

I have a 'Nvidia GeForce GTX 770 4GB' and I'm happy with it 

[jooker]

Thanks for the answers guys, Rusch, I can afford about 400€-s for the VGA.
I'm collected some stuff for a new PC, what dou you think about it?

Motherboard:
ASROCK Fatal1ty Z77
CPU:
INTEL Core i5-3570 3.40GHz 1155
VGA:
ASUS GTX 770 4Gb
RAM:
2*CORSAIR 8GB Vengeance DDR3 1600Mhz
Case:
Sharkoon T28

and I don't know, but a 500W-s power supply is enough for this, isn't it?

[Dom]

as far as I know you need quite a lot for the GTX 770, but if you want a good power supply then get an FSP Aurum Gold, it's fairly cheap and an amazing power supply. also, if you have a bit more money, I recommend getting an i7 3770 instead of the i5 3570, there's roughly a 15k forint difference between them.

[Rusch69]

Here's my advice: It would've been a better idea to make the topic entirely about a new rig configuration right away. Please just mention what you need the computer for and what budget you have for it altogether. Also tell if you're already having hardware that should be used for the new build, then we could work something out.

Your current configuration is based on the previous Intel generation. That's not a good idea since the current gen hardware costs the same.

[jooker]

Okay Rusch, thanks for helping, I'll make a new one, if I have enough time for it!

[Rusch69]

Ya don't need to make a new topic since I'd mots likely merge them then.
It just makes more sense to go at this with the info I asked for in my previous post. There is quiet some areas for improvement in your current configuration, so starting all from scratch with help would be the best option. One is always after maximum bang for the buck and currently it's not even close.

[jooker]

Well, the first goal is that I would like to play the newest games on the highest settings, without any problem for a "few" years. Also I would make some videos etc. I'm not planning to use it for working.
My current rig:
Motherboard:
ASUS P8H67-M

CPU:
Intel Core i3 2100 (2 * 3,10Ghz cores)

VGA:
MSI Nvidia N440GT 1Gb DDR3

RAM:
2 * 2Gb 1333Mhz Kingmax

I really like this, but it's just got weak in the past 3-4 years.

The money I could sacrifice for a new rig is around 270.000-300.000 HUF-s, (915-1000€-s) Anyway 900€ is lovelier. 

I would love a red interior, that's why I choosed the T-28, (people say it has a good cooling and cabling system) and etc.

[Rusch69]

Those components of your current system shouldn't be used for the new rig then. What about your current HDD & DVD drive though? Those are usually parts that can be reused, so I didn't add those two as for now, but left headroom for those considering your budget.

So here's what I put together for 928 € (prices change, so it might be a little different whenever you click):
https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/19bbe522015d600bcf167d052495cc4a1cab6e2a0796b6419db


I'll leave some further words about parts too:

RAM: Why just 8 GB?! 8 GB are simply enough for any game (!) and RAM is ridiculously expensive currently. It's 2 sticks, means dual channel mode will be enabled right away. The motherboard has 4 slots, therefore it could be upgraded anytime. Also, you could simply add the 2 sticks of your old rig and end up having 12 GB, but it'd run a little slower due to the clock adaption of 1333 Mhz. 12 GB COULD be more useful for editing, depending on what you really do.

Case: Just went with the one you wanted since it's kind of a taste thing. There is alternatives within that price segment. You'd probably have to unscrew the upper storage cage as the GFX card I picked is very long. Also, I had to pick a smaller CPU cooler as the bigger Macho version would have been 2 mm too high.

GFX card: Why AMD?! Yes, AMD usually tends to have worse cooling and is noisier. That applies to the R9 290's reference design big time, but Sapphire managed to solve the card's issues. Their design keeps it cool, quiet and shows the chip's potential with an additional overclock. In terms of price/performance this currently is the best high end card.

Motherboard: It got everything you possibly need. It's a Z87 chipset, means easy CPU overclocking via multiplier. A drawback is that no multi GFX card configurations are supported, but doing that is not a good idea anyway.

PSU: 650 W since the GFX card is hungry. A little oversized though, but better too much than too less eh. be quiet! & Seasonic are the only manufacturers I'd get a PSU from personally. It's also modular, means less cable salad and possibly better airflow if wired properly.

CPU: To make it short: For gaming, i7s aren't worth their high prices. Decide between i5 & Xeon series, based on whether an iGPU and overclocking or HyperThreading is important to you.
In terms of gaming performance the difference between the i5 4670(K), i7 4770(K) and Xeon e3 1230v3 CPUs is simply marginal. The differences become bigger if the i5/i7 CPUs (K-models only!) get overclocked. Another aspect is whether the played game benefits from the i7's/Xeon's HyperThreading (explanation: [noembed]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnS50lJicXc[/noembed]) feature.
I've picked the i5 4670K in this case since you want to game mostly. It'll be overclockable in addition with that Z87 motherboard if needed in the future.



So if you got a DVD drive & okay'ish HDD that can be reused, the rest of your budget could be invested into a SDD or another 8 GB RAM (to make it 16 GB in total).

[jooker]

I really appreciate your help, but the prices in Hungary are way different. I checked the stuff, it's nearly 1200€-s here, I can't afford that much unfortunately..
Could you recommend a cheaper, but not that different CPU and GFX card?

[Rusch69]

Derp, now that's fucked up. If prices are really THAT different in HU, you won't be able to build a system that lasts as long as you hoped it would with the given budget.

Ya still didn't let me know whether you have a HDD & DVD drive that can be reused. An option I could think of is to use the 4 GB RAM of your current system for the new one temporarily. So you could make use of that spared cash and invest it into the more important parts (CPU & GFX card) to maintain a good performance basis. A little RAM upgrade later on would be easy and not too expensive.

That said, I'll simply assume now that you can use HDD, DVD drive & RAM of your current build for the new one.

https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/99ca16220fb412bf04e8413959e0d0f0afed4ad48bab9b57f45

Cheaper motherboard now, but still a Z87 to keep the overclocking option of the i5 4670K available. Made a step backwards in terms of graphics performance to a GTX 770 and a weaker PSU. Assuming prices are higher by a third in HU overall, this should fit the budget. If there's still a little headroom, improvements can be done for sure.