SAMP Video - FEAR

[Plani]

^ some time ago i would bother answering him but i'm glad i don't give a shit about GTAS anymore. 

[VaNilla]

Say what you want, but considering that there are WH members who have the same feelings privately behind your backs, you should probably have a good think about it. Every high level stunter I've talked to about this in the past has said the exact same thing, but they don't bother posting it because they know they're going to be on the receiving end of a shitstorm.

Something's wrong when WH consistently can't see modding within the crew. Whether it's BoxXx, Baseline, Dan, or UndeadX, it always seems to go unnoticed until the stunter in question finally admits it.

[FloW]

Oh my god I wasn't even serious with my post, I thought it was clear for everyone. I didn't even watch this video until now and I don't see anything wrong with it. To be honest I'm not sure if you are just trolling but I'll answer anyway.

You are wrong at every point here.

You are acting like I was the one in charge of WH stunts, when infact I joined 2 months ago when organising was already closed and I didn't see any stunts. Yet you think I somehow 'accepted' his stunts and you are turning it against WH (sorry but you really do, just read your post o.O)

And then you say MxZ is still in WH (wtf?) when he was kicked few days after admitting modding his SASL stunts. I don't know what's going on with you Shadowsniper.

[VaNilla]

Why are there other members in WH believe that MxZ wasn't kicked? I'm just going off the information that's publicly available. I don't think you were in charge of WH's stunts, I'm saying that the whole crew should validate the stunts going into the video before the video is edited. That way, you can actually tell if there are any modded stunts in the video before it's released out into the wild. You seem to have misinterpreted my post.

EDIT: Well I checked the updated roster, it does seem as if he's kicked. Sorry for getting that wrong, but regardless, I believe that WH should check their stunts a little more strongly before releasing their videos.

[NumeRo]

I agee with shadowsniper if WH kicked MxZ why is Dani0 in WH with his stunt from Ubiquity (http://youtu.be/H5MrujBm7m0?t=5m42s) yes he is inactive but he is still in crew... Don't attack on me i'm just asking because it's interesting theme 

[FloW]

Why are there other members in WH believe that MxZ wasn't kicked? I'm just going off the information that's publicly available. I don't think you were in charge of WH's stunts, I'm saying that the whole crew should validate the stunts going into the video before the video is edited. That way, you can actually tell if there are any modded stunts in the video before it's released out into the wild. You seem to have misinterpreted my post.

Maybe, but you mentioned my modding past and the fact that I posted in this thread, so it was clear that you are directing everything at me and turning it against WH Your post can be interpreted in two ways, but in my way more likely.

[VaNilla]

Maybe, but you mentioned my modding past and the fact that I posted in this thread, so it was clear that you are directing everything at me and turning it against WH Your post can be interpreted in two ways, but in my way more likely.

I didn't mention your modding past? I looked at the thread and found unsubstantiated accusations of modding. However, I also found it ironic that current/past WH members would come in this thread to make fun of the video, given WH's modding history. That was it, I wasn't directing anything at you specifically, you made that link by yourself.

[FloW]

I am the only "current / past" WH member (you keep saying it in plural form making it more complicated) that came here and made fun of this video (yes, re-read this thread please). And you said that WH members (me being the only one) accepted UndeadX stunts, made worse in the past (modding talk) and now are making fun of this video. I really can't understand how it isn't directed to me xD But I understand your logic now, it's just you made it so unclear.

[VaNilla]

I made myself perfectly clear, I think. When I mentioned that BoxXx, Baseline, and Dan's stunts all got into WH's final videos without anyone noticing, I was talking about the crew as a whole, not you specifically. I understand that you were making fun of Eroxia's style of comments with your original post, but I also thought that you were accusing him of modding, given the precedent set by Rusch and other people in the thread. Hence the perceived irony.

The reference to "worse modding in the past" was to these past members like BoxXx, given that UndeadX looks pretty damn clean by comparison . The use of plural was referential to the fact that MxZ also came in the thread, who is a past member of WH. I don't understand the lack of clarity.

[FloW]

It wasn't as clear as you think (I never would have guessed you were refering to MxZ his post, as he didn't say anything about the video) but it is now, kinda. I'm glad you explained it like this because I didn't want to continue it any longer

[Rusch69]

Rusch, if you see a modded stunt in this video, is that these seven years of experiences will served you at anything 
say me the stunt i have modded in this video and i go with you on sa-mp and reland it in front of you, is not a problem for me, you just say this because i say "Rusch mod" on youtube ? 
on this video i have landed 85% of easy stunts, if i want, i reland all stunts in 3 or 4 hours.
if you don't succeed these stunts, is that you really become low without your annoying cheat 
Finally,  I started to do stunts before you, since 2006 with my PS2, i have more experience than you

I didn't even say anything in here is modded, instead I even mentioned I can not tell at all since there's no replays, laggy captured bots and that FPS increaser. Also if we were super strict about it, any recent SAMP video shouldn't be considered as legit. When PrzemOO linked me this video saying it'd be modded, I even told him that I don't find this particular one too strange after watching, so don't twist things up. Do you really think it's a coincidence though that people start a modding discussion about you and your stunts a little later? That's simply reasonable doubts as some of your singleplayer stuff was crap already and that makes you quite untrustworthy.

The second aspect is exactly what I have mentioned in my first post in this topic. You just throw back my accusations over and over. Seems like you just can't deal with my opinion at all, regardless of whether I'm right or wrong. You can surely accuse me as well, nothing wrong with that, but I deal with it and find it quite pathetic as I know who's the liar and cheater here. Now that's probably your view too as it seems.

I'm not a randomly hating kid that's jealous about other people landing good stuff, but that's probably what you think I am. That's definitely not the case as I've done enough good stunts myself and appreciate other's too, unless they're try-hards and try to fool people with mods like you do. This probably sounds arrogant, but I'm not a random low and according to the forum votes I'm within the top 5 SA stunters for 5 years already. People see and appreciate my honest input.

I've been playing SA on console before as well, make it 10 years then, but that's not what I'm on about and you can not compare console/PC. Serious dedication and invested time related to stunting in-game leads to good experience and I'm sure you lack that. Many people who mod can't even estimate the real possibilities of a clean installation and shout mods whenever something's out of their own (assumptions of) possibilities.

[unknowguy]

it's pretty funny to see how you try to protect yourself with this post, but it doesn't matter.
the fact is that in this video nothing was modded, I can prove it without any problem.
if you say the otherwise is just because you don't like me and my comments on youtube, it is a child reaction 

but when I see this on youtube:

I'm dropping this shit

there is nothing else to add, the video speaks for itself.

[Rusch69]

it's pretty funny to see how you try to protect yourself with this post, but it doesn't matter.

I'm just putting facts on the table while all you do is talking spineless stuff.

the fact is that in this video nothing was modded, I can prove it without any problem.

I can't help it if you fail to read and understand my words. And in fact, it can not be proven it's all clean either.

if you say the otherwise is just because you don't like me and my comments on youtube, it is a child reaction

I've explained I am not randomly disliking anyone and I'm all for freedom of opinion. Apparently you're having exactly that behavior I explained in the beginning. So think about who of us is the one that desperately tries to get away with bullshit.

There's also nothing wrong with my stunt and basing it all on a clip isn't always the way to go. That just proves me that you have no clue about the game's possibilities.

[unknowguy]

I'll stop making videos because with people like you who think "i am too strong, i am better than you", and that demeans others who do stunts without cheat for fun, while you cheating and tell others if they do not succeed is because they are too bad.... this is pathetic.
I have others more interesting things to do than talk with hypocrite kids.
Bye. 

[RedX]

If you mod, keep your mouth shut. If you don't mod, keep your mouth shut. I don't know whether this is modded or not, but I know you've made yourself look like a fool with your posts, unknownguy.

There's no reason to fill topics with shit text nobody cares about. Some people may accuse you of modding, and if the moderators decide that the video must have been modded, it will be moved, simple as that.

I thought the stunts were awesome, but I didn't enjoy the song. Cool video