Demon & Ruiner - Frostbite

[D.JacK]

That looks every kind of stunts you craziers can play use the best way!

I can't imagine you guys will be so huge like this when few years ago.

This video just like the new "MB" video of 2013 year

Chinese stunters just can do amazing stunts/vids always!

[DriZzly]

u sick sick people !

[MaCi]

Mindblown, wow. I didn't expect to see a video like this anymore so I'm really excited Favorite stunt: Demon's debbolgrend. Epic big-airs too, sick job landing the finisher Cool editing aswell Well fucking done guys!

[Simon]

and it's funny how you simon act like you actually make the 'rules' which don't exist, no one ever created topic where people agreed or dissagreed on such matter, there were only 'street rules' which were never written down, the only one I remember was about the slow roads fix where rush appeard and closed it because that's the way he thought it's supposed to be. someone should step up and start topic like that.

It's actually written down you know.

Why not just read the topic? See what other people think, and make up your own mind. If it's about helping newcomers, why not just add a list of the mods that have been used to the first post or the credits of the video (ie. list of collision changes, cheating, etc)?

You're saying checking a different sub-section is too much work, but you are asking everyone to list down everything they used to make the video in the first post. It's seriously not that hard to keep it like it is, all you have to do is realize the modded section isn't only gravity mods and shit like that. And seeing as people have different opinions on this, I think that by having two sections you please both sides. People can still make videos in whichever way they want, and people can view them. If people prefer to see videos without mods they can check out the unmodded and for people who don't care they can check out the modded section as well. If anything we can change the name to "Mod-assisted Stunting Videos" or something more lighthearted to make it less associated with handling and gravity mods, but I still think we need to differentiate between what is possible with a clean install and what is not.

[TrYp]

To all of those who are discussing the roof col-fix, I have to point out that Daffy used a col fix in his last solo and NO ONE gave a damn fuck about it, it's just ridicoulus how people can argue about that now. I'm not defending demon here don't get me wrong.

Ontopic: still waiting for the full review template 

[Caio]

To all of those who are discussing the roof col-fix, I have to point out that Daffy used a col fix in his last solo and NO ONE gave a damn fuck about it, it's just ridicoulus how people can argue about that now. I'm not defending demon here don't get me wrong.

Ontopic: still waiting for the full review template 

Yeah Baby?  I'm still waiting for those .cols boxxx promised everyone.

Just post the goddamn files for everyone like the .col fixes in lc and this is solved.

[Sheep]

To all of those who are discussing the roof col-fix, I have to point out that Daffy used a col fix in his last solo and NO ONE gave a damn fuck about it, it's just ridicoulus how people can argue about that now. I'm not defending demon here don't get me wrong.

Ontopic: still waiting for the full review template 

Well, he deserves the same treatment as we give to Demon right now.
Daffy is a modder

To all of those who are discussing the roof col-fix, I have to point out that Daffy used a col fix in his last solo and NO ONE gave a damn fuck about it, it's just ridicoulus how people can argue about that now. I'm not defending demon here don't get me wrong.

Ontopic: still waiting for the full review template 

Yeah Baby?  I'm still waiting for those .cols boxxx promised everyone.

Just post the goddamn files for everyone like the .col fixes in lc and this is solved.

It solves nothing.

If everyone uses that col fix, it still would be labeled as modding.
Imagine the same situation, but with modified handling.

[STREEM]

But it's not the same for fucks sake

[Sheep]

Why not? It's still two files modified from their original form.

[FIGHTER]

To all of those who are discussing the roof col-fix, I have to point out that Daffy used a col fix in his last solo and NO ONE gave a damn fuck about it, it's just ridicoulus how people can argue about that now. I'm not defending demon here don't get me wrong.

Ontopic: still waiting for the full review template 

That was released in the WH section i guess

[Rainbow]

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Yeah Baby?  I'm still waiting for those .cols boxxx promised everyone.

A bit off topic but BoxXx didn't use .cols there if I remember correctly. He mapped those container units from the docks into that place and bumped those. Nothing high tech there.  My two cents about it though, if you used other cols than in the normal VC and LC, it's modded. End of story for me.

[Turok]

It's awesome how lots of you don't care about VC anymore and simply let another modded video be praised like that. As soon as the majority moves into GTAV the better it will be, it really hurts to see the VC engine in the situation that it is nowadays. This comment won't help with anything but simply add to the chaos of the already wasted VC section. It's really funny how the majority stopped caring anymore. The people I used to see in the past blatantly uncovering modded videos are now supporting the modders. If videos like that are the "future" of VC and the number 1 on the awards on the end of the year many VC stunters will just peace out and many already did

now the dssers can just accuse me with nothing .every simgle stunt which is better than dss's level is considered as a modded stunt by dss member.

ok  I think I am proud to be the modder for the dss. thank you anyway. no one would be always approbated by everyone. and I think I now have enough people to support me to stunt , to land modded stunts one by one just for the DSS and to ruin the engine for the DSS.

Whoa buddy, two guys don't represent a whole crew. You are not a modder to all of us so don't blame the whole crew. Your post sounded trustworthy although you used sarcasm. You don't need sarcasm also some fixing is need to be done. Let me put it like this: I think I now have enough people to support me to stunt , to land modded stunts one by one just to ruin the VC engine for the whole GTAS community. - fixed, no sarcasm needed. much better I'd say

[Skuller]

"Damn so epic, you two should learn me to stunt"

[TurBo]

Why not? It's still two files modified from their original form.

Most of us use dannye's SCM [modified] file while playing, it is in fact, modifying the game, but is it 'modding' the way we consider? nope.

Why do we allow it? cuz our sense of modding is more common sense than hard cold rules, we realise it's just a file that saves the time and as long as something can be done in theory in the original game, it should be 'legit'.

Now, for map mods, it's not really 'mods' the way we consider modding, it's a modified environment. It should be mentioned by the video makers, and they should post the file, but the choice to alter the environment is up to you.

[MxZz.]

Why not? It's still two files modified from their original form.

Most of us use dannye's SCM [modified] file while playing, it is in fact, modifying the game, but is it 'modding' the way we consider? nope.

Why do we allow it? cuz our sense of modding is more common sense than hard cold rules, we realise it's just a file that saves the time and as long as something can be done in theory in the original game, it should be 'legit'.

Now, for map mods, it's not really 'mods' the way we consider modding, it's a modified environment. It should be mentioned by the video makers, and they should post the file, but the choice to alter the environment is up to you.

Thanks a lot for that post, really.