Demon & Ruiner - Frostbite

[Brainkiller]

crazy job guys


 

[Caio]

Moved to modded section because fixed VC cols

Awesome vid though, some nuts grinds in there.

Seriously? 

[Simon]

^It's a mod > Modded Section.

[mehmet]

Demon's grind2ledgegrind was the greatest stunt I've seen recently.

demons 2 double grinds were really awesome but there should have been more creativity in the bigairs imo... there was cool stuff too but there was too much too simple big airs to my taste

daffy's stunt was great  and like iceD said the G2LG was really my fav stunt for a LOOOOONG time

9/10

and FTO did REALLY good job with the editing. really awesome to see your editing again 

[Daksad]

^It's a mod > Modded Section.

LC and SAiVC are mods, all VC stunters are modders zomg!


Sick video guys, pretty much every single stunt was good and some were over the top. I can't remember the last time someone made a video that impressive.

[Sheep]

^Map mods. VC col fixes has always been considered as modding.

[VaNilla]

Brilliant video. Many of the stunts in this video were truly extraordinary, but there were just two stunts that genuinely blew me away; Demon's SAiVC double grind, and Demon's back bump to LV parking. The double grind on its own might have been a little bland, but that 180 spin in between was insane. It's probably the only time my jaw has dropped for a VC stunt in years! The backbump was really sick too.

Some of Ruiner's BSM's were amazing, especially when he would go way off in a different direction and land on a totally unexpected building. You both matched each other really well, but in my book, those two stunts by Demon are instant classics. I just hope that you didn't bail off at the end of those grinds. If you didn't did, that would really spoil the appeal.

The editing was good, but it didn't match the quality of the stunts. Stunts like these deserve really experimental editing to keep them fresh, so it was a shame to see such a standard approach. The splitting of both parts also left a lot to be desired. It feels like you edited two different videos in the same style, and then stitched them together without much thought.

My main problem lies with the colour grading. Shock value is really important, but when everything's painted with such a monochromatic tone, the monotony really drags the whole thing down. Nonetheless, the brisk pacing and dedicatation to clarity kept me happily engaged .

Good job guys, I loved it - However, one more thing. This highlights why the splitting of "modded" videos from the rest of the pack is broken. It just makes everything more complicated. Discovery becomes more difficult, and basic semantics apply false stigma to videos that simply don't deserve it. Nobody should be given the authority to dictate the difference between "clean" and "modded" stunts.

[TurBo]

Great job, you've made a great piece of vid, with a lot of great stunts, I could complain about my taste wanting a bit more natural and a bit more technical but for no use, it's a great vid in it's own right.

[FTO]

The editing was good, but it didn't match the quality of the stunts. Stunts like these deserve really experimental editing to keep them fresh, so it was a shame to see such a standard approach. The splitting of both parts also left a lot to be desired. It feels like you edited two different videos in the same style, and then stitched them together without much thought.

My main problem lies with the colour grading. Shock value is really important, but when everything's painted with such a monochromatic tone, the monotony really drags the whole thing down. Nonetheless, the brisk pacing and dedicatation to clarity kept me happily engaged .

I picked these two songs because they're really born for massive and aggresive stunts. To fit their style, I used the standard approach here which, I think, is more suitable here. There's nothing wrong with experimental and I have always been longing to try something I've never done before. But I don't think it's necessary for this video. At least it's safer to edit it like a normal crew video. Were it edited in a more experimental way, there could be more haters than likers.

I think most Vice City videos are pretty standard. Just leave the experimental to those who loves editing SA videos with Dubstep songs used.

Very constructive comments, SS. Appreciate that.  Thanks to those who liked the editing btw. 

Moved to modded section because fixed VC cols

It's truly a letdown if the topic is removed here just because of one stunt. I remember there was a time when videos with more stunts involving modified cols were posted in the unmodded section but weren't removed ( probably still there ). People will easily skip this if some new videos are posted in the unmodded section.

[VaNilla]

Not that you're saying otherwise, but just to clarify, I liked the editing . The song choices had nothing to do with my point. I felt that the transition between both parts of the video was misguided. The style was consistent across the board, but in my view, the fade to black created a strange disconnect between the two. When the second part starts, there's nothing to say "hey this is something new". The isolation of the two parts is what I disliked.

If it were me, I'd have tried to transition between the two songs a little differently. Maybe I'd take a freeze frame from the first part, mask that in with next stunt, and then directly cut into the next song without fading. In my opinion, this would be more exciting. Taking someone out of the experience with a long fade to black, only to fade back into what's essentially the same thing -- that feels redundant.

When you're going down the "isolated" pathway, I think you should try to make both parts feel very distinct and different. Try changing up the the pacing, the colours, the cinematography (angles), the music, that kind of thing. Hopefully you can take something away from this, but hey, it's just my opinion, it's not the bible

[Ltab-]

dEMON hOLY SHITTTTTttt
THAT GRIND TO LEDGEGRIND NO FUCKING WAY I'M SO FUCKING DONE
So nuts, what a fucking shit you bailed but damn dude you're fucking crazy, perfect spot.
Also ruiner was amazing, that ledgegrind to stairs grind was sick.
Loved this video, thanks guys!

[FTO]

@SS Oh really? I thought you were talking about the style of the whole video so I had to mention the soundtracks. It turned out that you were talking about the transition. The two songs were a bit identical so I just made the two parts alike.

[FloW]

I agree with SS about the transition, although it wasn't something that would make the video any worse. Anyway, I loved the editing and the songs, you improved your editing so much FTO. About the stunts, just like everyone else I loved the SAiVC grind to ledge grind, there were more outstanding stunts but all in all I enjoyed all of them. Maybe there were too many of big airs for my taste, but that's just me. Solid video guys, well done.

[Simon]

Moved to modded section because fixed VC cols

It's truly a letdown if the topic is removed here just because of one stunt. I remember there was a time when videos with more stunts involving modified cols were posted in the unmodded section but weren't removed ( probably still there ). People will easily skip this if some new videos are posted in the unmodded section.

It doesn't matter how many stunts there are, 1 is enough. Might be true that many stunt videos has gone by without being moved, but I don't watch every video nor do I intend to go back through all the videos and move the ones that do use fixed cols. In the end it's Demon and Ruiners fault for deciding to use it.

However, one more thing. This highlights why the splitting of "modded" videos from the rest of the pack is broken. It just makes everything more complicated. Discovery becomes more difficult, and basic semantics apply false stigma to videos that simply don't deserve it. Nobody should be given the authority to dictate the difference between "clean" and "modded" stunts.

How does splitting them up make discovery harder?, if anything it makes descovering this video even easier, rarely new videos in the modded section. And the False stigma wouldn't be as much the sections fault as the community. If they bother to read through this topic they'll know why it was moved, maybe even smarter if they edit the first post quoting me on why it was moved. I agree that no one should be allowed to decide if something is modded or not, as long as it is uncertain. This video clearly had the VC Collision fixes used in it, and that is most definitely a mod.

[Hugo]

Goodbye !