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Re: GTA V stuntsing by Hedgehog
« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2013, 06:19:31 AM »
Next time please do not use the ability man. While it was kinda fun to watch it was very unimpressive. Almost like you didn't even care.

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Re: GTA V stuntsing by Hedgehog
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2013, 06:36:13 AM »
I'm not a hipster
I meant that as a silly joke just to say I'm not holding a grudge, but yeah sorry for getting carried away and everything, and I agree that first post of mine was fucking retarded  :jajaja:
Me neither, I even found it kinda funny :P

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Re: GTA V stuntsing by Hedgehog
« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2013, 06:45:17 AM »
Somebody can test a stunt diference with slowmotion and whitout slowmo.

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Re: GTA V stuntsing by Hedgehog
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2013, 07:09:17 AM »
Great video with some nice stunt, just a shame you didn't use the slow-mo ability better.

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Re: GTA V stuntsing by Hedgehog
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2013, 07:22:09 AM »
Somebody can test a stunt diference with slowmotion and whitout slowmo.
Depends on how scientific you want the test to be as every bump is different because it depends on so many variables.
The vertical and horizontal angle of the bike, the speed achieved from the run-up, if you lean back or forwards when bumping not to mention to the side as well.
You could test how it affects speed by driving a certain distance without it and repeat the exact same distance and speed the slow-mo clip up to normal speed but I'm not willing to go that far.
However it does have an undeniable impact in terms of giving you way more time to react which I why I almost never use it unless I'm convinced I'll crash into something if I don't, I just don't want to get used to having that as a crutch.

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Re: GTA V stuntsing by Hedgehog
« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2013, 07:25:49 AM »
Burning for revenge eh...

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Re: GTA V stuntsing by Hedgehog
« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2013, 07:27:53 AM »
Everything I listed about the slow motion, that's what makes the difference between a stunt with and without it. It's not something you can quantity mathematically, you will feel the difference by using it. But just as Slayer said, anyone judging this for the "slow motion" is ignoring that the ability does so much more than slow down time.

Regardless, it doesn't make stunting easy. It makes easy stunts easier. A hard stunt with the ability is a nigh on impossible stunt without it, and a nigh on impossible stunt with the ability is definitely not possible without it. Don't think about it as something that dumbs down stunting, use it to do things that are even harder than before. What's the point of not using the opportunity to land mind blowing stunts that would be impossible without the ability?

Also, if and where it makes sense, you should try using the ability to add style. If you've used slow motion at the beginning of the stunt, it's going to look a lot better if you close off the landing with a little burst of slow motion too, it makes the whole package feel more solid. There's an art to using the slow motion ability, as well as a function.
« Last Edit: October 09, 2013, 07:38:15 AM by Shadowsniper »

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Re: GTA V stuntsing by Hedgehog
« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2013, 08:13:25 AM »
I dont have GTAV and seeing as how many of you point how easy it is with that slow motion thing, I didnt enjoy that much the video on a second note. Seeing this as a cheating takes away the fun even from watching it. But with that kind of attitude from some of you we wont be having much newcomers and this community won't grow, instead it will continue to rotten and go downwards like in the past years. I really hope this new GTAV brings some light to this place and MOST of the members here dont "block" this light with their attitude.

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Re: GTA V stuntsing by Hedgehog
« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2013, 12:32:00 PM »
I'm not a hipster
I meant that as a silly joke just to say I'm not holding a grudge, but yeah sorry for getting carried away and everything, and I agree that first post of mine was fucking retarded  :jajaja:
I agreed wholeheartedly with your first post, fuck the casuals with a rusty baton. GTA 4 stunting went down the shitter because people took the easy route, I could easily see the same thing happening to GTA 5. Just wait for the Machinima heroes to come up with every lame method you could ever conceive of and watch the populous imitate them for 'dat dere e-fame'. Seems like you're growing soft.

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Re: GTA V stuntsing by Hedgehog
« Reply #39 on: October 09, 2013, 01:07:34 PM »
Quote from: Shadowsniper
Daksad stated that "it allows more casual players to do the same tricks as we do", but that's wrong.

In most of your cases, slow motion is not needed. If a run up is tricky or a road is crowded with vehicles, then that's your problem, if you use slowmotion that's your choice. You don't have any excuse because you do not need it, just like Hedgehog in his video.

But the question is, what is really "lame"? Some people think it's fine to use slowmotion on their bumps, you think it's fine to use it on your runup and some people probably think it's lame no matter the reason. Your post is contradictory, because you say you should use slowitdown to make the stunt easier but yet you say it should be restricted only to cases when it's not needed. That's what my whole post was about, we're not able to make everyone happy and in 99% of cases, slowmotion will be used when not needed, and no one can prevent it from happening. You said you used slowmotion on most of your stunts, those will probably look lame in the eyes of many people, maybe some will reland them without slowmotion, but you can't set a limit, it's either all or nothing. It's obvious people will want to use it, and I don't think restricting it entirely would be the best solution. People will allow it, but just avoid to abuse it.

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Re: GTA V stuntsing by Hedgehog
« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2013, 11:29:19 PM »
I agreed wholeheartedly with your first post, fuck the casuals with a rusty baton. GTA 4 stunting went down the shitter because people took the easy route, I could easily see the same thing happening to GTA 5. Just wait for the Machinima heroes to come up with every lame method you could ever conceive of and watch the populous imitate them for 'dat dere e-fame'. Seems like you're growing soft.
It's not about becoming soft but there's better ways of motivating people to do better.
I still feel as though we should all try to improve in our aspects of our lives and that includes our hobbies as they're activities that feels very worthwhile and a constant state of progression shouldn't be a huge expectation in that regard, I think the lack of also represents a lack in general in once life but I've also noticed that most people don't respond well to the army-way of motivating people which is basically calling them a sack of shit expecting them to get better.
Part of why the VC-scene blossomed was partly because there was a very encouraging environment where we acknowledged lesser efforts with motivating comments such as "I think some of the stunts were a bit easy but you have potential and I think you should challenge yourself with harder/better stunts".
Intimidating everyone who's starting out seems to be a very counter-productive way of bringing out the best in people and it's only good for scaring of the majority while the select few, that are über-hardcore enough will transcend the negativity their met with and use it to do better next time but you can't expect everyone to be that way from the get-go.
I do feel as though we should collectively tap into the potential of GTAV, but I don't wanna fault people for not knowing how, I'd rather show them.

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Re: GTA V stuntsing by Hedgehog
« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2013, 11:51:44 PM »
I still feel as though we should all try to improve in our aspects of our lives and that includes our hobbies as they're activities that feels very worthwhile and a constant state of progression shouldn't be a huge expectation in that regard

I don't agree with this.

Hobbies are obviously about enjoying ourselves, and if a need to improve is part of that for you, then go for it, but don't make it sound like that's something that necessarily applies to everyone. Also, what makes a good or bad stunt is a social construct of this community, don't expect outsiders to be able to relate to this.

Personally I'd say I peaked in my stunting abilities and dedication years ago, and I'd rather spend 5 hours landing shitty stunts than trying one kickass stunt for the same period of time, because trying some different shit is just more fun for me now. Many here at GTAS have a very elitist view on stunting, and that's fine, but we really shouldn't shit on people who don't want to spend as much time on stunting as we do.

And this whole "ruined a spot" talk that's quite common here is pretty fucking retarded imo, if we focused more on style and videos as a whole instead of analytically breaking vids down into a series of separate stunts I think we'd all enjoy ourselves more. The fact that someone landed a 30ft roof from a bump shouldn't make your landing of a 120ft roof from the same bump any shittier (but unfortunately many of you feel that it does). I'd love to see a redefinition of what makes a good video where old stunts, old songs and old ideas don't matter as much, but where the vibe, flow, diversity and basically how entertaining a video is, is the main focus.
« Last Edit: October 10, 2013, 12:01:36 AM by RedX »

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Re: GTA V stuntsing by Hedgehog
« Reply #42 on: October 10, 2013, 12:28:41 AM »
I think everyone is overreacting a bit. I agree on the slowmo but I dont think he "ruined" any spots. If someone lands it without slowmo people will clearly recognize it as a better stunt. and technically new, like if someone uses a BSM on a Natbump, sure maybe they "lamed" the bump or something, but the person who lands it natural will be the stunter remembered for landing the spot, aka the correct way.

I enjoyed watching.

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Re: GTA V stuntsing by Hedgehog
« Reply #43 on: October 10, 2013, 09:37:13 AM »
Best V stunts at the moment, the first GTA V legend IMO
This attitude right here is the reason this place is going to shit and I'm not attacking you specifically but everyone else who praises this shit-fest too.
For starters he used the slowmo ability on every stunt, even if you haven't played GTAV I bet you'd be violently opposed to the idea of someone using "slowitdown" for every bump they though in SA and so this should be totally obvious for GTAV too.
Furthermore he also landed the lowest part of many roofs which also ruins many of the spots for a lot of people who are actually making a fucking effort.
Land low roofs all day, but don't half-ass spots that has more potential, I mean yeah I know I can't claim them as mine and mine alone but how the common decency to be aware of the fact that someone else might be spending a fuck-lot of effort make the most out of the spot.
And by the way, they're kinda the only GTAV stunts at the moment, that don't make them good and calling this piece of shit the first GTAV-legend is like calling Hitler the first humanitarian.

I know I sound like a bitter cunt to those of you who haven't tried and/or made an effort to do really solid stunts in GTAV but this really is the equivalent of someone landing the 40ft part of a roof that's way bigger and using slowitdown in the process, I hope you can see how that fucked up and how detrimental the praise of it is to stunting as a whole.

Every people have your own opinion Daffy, this is MY OPINION, i think the video is cool, the first good combos in V, but obviously its mutch better one video without that slowmotion effect, you guys have to respect the other opinions, or 'this' place will every year dont be one sociable and cool forum to acess.

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Re: GTA V stuntsing by Hedgehog
« Reply #44 on: October 10, 2013, 11:21:28 PM »
I only stunt online, So there's no traffic and I have spawn points, and obviously, slow mo is not an option  :euro: But I do agree, this is the same as slowitdown on SA and IMO I think it lames the stunts, However, These are the first few stunt vids being made for V so far so we are still in the learning process of this game stunt-wise, and these stunts can still be re-done without slowmo with better results.  But I do like a few of the stunts in this video, good job ;)


Oh, and the map does not seem as big as SA to me, at least for spots. :sleep:
« Last Edit: October 10, 2013, 11:32:24 PM by Ryze »

 

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