Midnight Mass

[Rainbow]

@Sheeptea: How about we try not to get used to this "crap"? Letting lying bastards win. Yes that'd be great thank you. Luli, go ahead and make another IV/VC/SA solo.

And when did he lied? He never said these stunts are clean or modded. I don't know what happened inside DSS, but if you were referring to the past, then elaborate please.

I was talking in general about modders in that first part anyway, "lying bastards" meaning modders who say they are clean. And I don't think Luli will say these are modded because we can't prove anything and in that case he would have lamed real possible spots instead of doing impossible stuff. So he is either really lame or really lame and lying.

[A maid]

We can't just look over it and get used to it, better do something against it than just accepting this kind of cheating and lying.

Well, isn't it about time to get used to this "crap"? It's not like this is the first time something like this happens in this community.

Get over it.

I'm glad to see at least one person backing me up.

[Tg]

Amazing stunts dude, but the song is stupid and doesn't make sense 

[Rusch69]

We can't just look over it and get used to it, better do something against it than just accepting this kind of cheating and lying.

Well, isn't it about time to get used to this "crap"? It's not like this is the first time something like this happens in this community.

Get over it.

Yes, let's just get over it and let everyone mod the shit out of the game, just for the sake of landing sick and impressive big spots very easily. Furthermore merge the (un-)modded video releases boards, save GTAS, become a legendary hero and get the Nobel Peace Prize.

Modding should not be tolerated at all. It'd lead to even worse, so rather fight it altogether. People open their mouths for a reason as they find stunts fishy, which is totally comprehensible with such a release & behavior of luli. Not expressing your real thoughts would make a reply pointless. Don't try to give GTAS rose-colored glasses.

[Gavran]

I really have to say that I fullily support you on this one Rusch, and I would perhaps like to make a suggestion which I don't think will happen. Technically crew sections use their Video Release section for unmodded videos, and if they happen to be modded (50%) gravity or so, like I think it was DP who did that they ALWAYS inform us, but luli used the (unmodded) DSS Video Releases to release a modded video without informing that the stunts are in fact modded.
I might just be remembering wrong, but didn't you make a topic called Clean Stunting V.2? Why not follow up on that and punish him according to that since it could technically be looked as he has posted a modded video in the (unmodded) DSS section.

[Rusch69]

MMM & I became moderators to take care of that SA modding issue, which is a lot worse over there. After MMM left, the thing was revised a little. Check my signature for the link. It is all SA section related though, therefore I'd say get a similar anti-mod police for VC anytime soon as it is just for the better.

[Sheep]

Modding should not be tolerated at all. It'd lead to even worse, so rather fight it altogether.

What are you planning to win? You can't stop all the modders or be absolute sure which stunts are clean or not.

[Rusch69]

I don't intend to win anything at all, just find it extremely dumb to let modding pass and therefore I'm all against it. Obviously we can not get rid of ALL modders, but limitation of possible loss is a start and improves the situation a lot.

SA related I can be absolute sure sometimes, as many modders are uncovering themselves by way too obvious stuff. I am not deciding about actions being made all alone, I'm just rather the handling hand. Read the legit stunting 1.1 topic and there you go. I'm not the little super anti-hax Hitler you may think I am.

[Daffy]

What are you planning to win? You can't stop all the modders or be absolute sure which stunts are clean or not.

You're not gonna fix a negative by adding a negative which is what you're suggesting.

[Ｄｅｍｏｎ]

I think all stunts are clean . 

opposite no one is clean.

the camera angles ,the editing by himself, no download link , no replays , no words to explain.
everything marks this video with modding.

[TurBo]

I support Rusch, I mean what.. we're gonna just sit and clap when people just get the credit for spots people work on because they simply modded them? well what is the point of stunting then? I see no point in it this way... be straight about modding or not cuz else you're not only ruining it for yourself but for others too.

As for Luli, I really do hope it's clean but I'm in doubt[and have been since I've seen it first, thus my surprised reaction].

[Herb]

Where's Plethzorb when ya need him 

[Davve]

Someone who is a better modspotter than me explained a couple of things so I now don't believe a single stunt in this video is legit. I really need to get better at checking details when it comes to suspected modding.

Nearly zero fucks are given since I didn't lose any stunts but I know a couple of people who did which sucks.

[Shaggy]

OMG 

[MikeyMouse]

Where to start...this is a tricky one, and I hope you appreciate why that is Luli.

I'm not saying you modded these stunts, not at all, I have my suspicions as many others do, but we haven't seen the reps so there's nothing solid to base that on. I just have to ask what's up with the whole 'hidden feel' to this video? All the big airs in the video were cut as soon as you got close to the bumps, and you couldn't really see it very clearly. Again that doesn't mean you modded that stunt, but it feels like you're covering something up, and if these stunts are clean, they are absolutely incredible, so what would be your reason for cutting them like you did?

I'm stuck in two minds right now...if the stunts are clean, you instantly rise to one of the all time greats around here, because these stunts are seriously amazing. If they're modded...then you know, I don't think you'll ever receive the same level of respect around here, and within the crew.

Hope you're clean man, come onto skype soon so we can all talk, at the very least send us the reps so we know what's going on  .