Counterfact

[Asaaj]

I think you should release the cols or stop using them BGhitman. I don't see a problem with using them, but when you are keeping them for yourself like that it's kind of douchy

Some cool stunts in this, nice video. I liked some of the car stunt in to the glitched building in VC, it was smart

So it's a problem that I land stunts that people can't land becouse of the cols ? Than I don't see any problem It's not like someone has lost a spot 

You're having a advantage not many of the community share with each other, that's the problem. You could've just waited till the maker of this mod released the collisions to the mass and not to only a few people.

Good video anyway

[BG hitman]

I think you should release the cols or stop using them BGhitman. I don't see a problem with using them, but when you are keeping them for yourself like that it's kind of douchy

Some cool stunts in this, nice video. I liked some of the car stunt in to the glitched building in VC, it was smart

So it's a problem that I land stunts that people can't land becouse of the cols ? Than I don't see any problem It's not like someone has lost a spot 

You're having a advantage not many of the community share with each other, that's the problem. You could've just waited till the maker of this mod released the collisions to the mass and not to only a few people.

Good video anyway

Yes you are right but.... EPIC SPOTS lololol omg  !

[Genyus]

Yes you are right but.... EPIC SPOTS lololol omg  !

How come I'm not surprised you react like this? Oh right, it's because you and your friends were childish enough to keep those collisions for yourself to begin with.

[Simon]

I'll put it as unfair, you have the advantage to find every spot someone might have before they have the chance. So they might have lost a spot they have thought of before but the cols weren't there for it. And the fact that you and others have gotten a hold of it means to me that you could easily have posted a link, but you just seem selfish to just keep them for yourselves landing all the spots...

That's why I think you should either just wait with those stunts or just give everyone a link. It's not like it's going to hurt giving others the link, you are keeping what might be a "fun-boost" for yourself.

[BG hitman]

Genyus and Simon: The guy who made the cols told me not to spread them since they are not finished ! And stop telling me how unfair it is cause u start seem jelous, and this is just a fuckin game + it's not like u are gonna play it 'till the end of your life (lol I don't know is that argument good or what but anyway). Also I would spread the link but I don't want to disapoint the guy who made them and he was good enough to send it to me

You guys are nice I don't know why u react like this not that it's wrong but you kinda make it bigger than it actually is. We are talking about several stunts not for a whole fuckin solo well yeah I have one more stunt with fixed cols which is unreleased but soon people will see it but still that does not change the things

OK if it's such a big problem I won't be stunting with the fixed cols since this is realeased so have it your way !

Have a nice day !

[Asaaj]

Well even the guy who made them would've liked you not to release the stunts aslong as the mod is not released yet. Consider that.

[Cooper]

Well even the guy who made them would've liked you not to release the stunts aslong as the mod is not released yet. Consider that.

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anyways its not legit imo
i mean its not a patch from the lc team, its like adding ramps on random places, but w/e

[Genyus]

this is just a fuckin game

Exactly, so why are you and your DSS buddies so pumped up to keep this for yourself and not share it with anyone? It seems like for you people it's more than just a game.. :\

I don't know the size of this collision fix, but I've had a lot of spots in my mind that can't be done without collision fixes and from what I've heard this thing you have fixes a lot so in the sense of everyone having fun and this just being a game, the wise thing to do would be share it with everyone.

ps. I'm not blaming you for not sharing it since you didn't make it, hence I blame the creator for keeping it secret. The only blame you get is for participating in keeping it secret.

i mean its not a patch from the lc team, its like adding ramps on random places, but w/e

meh dude, the textures are already there. it's like the LC team was too lazy to fix stuff. collision fixes have been done before and comparing it to adding ramps on random places makes no sense..

[The Big V]

anyways its not legit imo
i mean its not a patch from the lc team, its like adding ramps on random places, but w/e

One of the first LC releases had LOTS of unfixed roofs. Most of the huge roofs you see landed now in stunting videos were unsolid. So someone in GTAS decided to fix them. Its not counted as modding or "adding ramps on random places" as you can see. Same thing with the fixed collisions.

And guys omagash just wait a bit , the mod will be out soon. Be patient 

[BG hitman]

Genyus: I told u If it depends on me I would have shared it already but it's not + the guy how made it did not told me anything about posting stunts with the fixed cols. And do u rly think that we give so much shit about the cols and keep it in secret  We are not so active in our private chat to discuss and talk about it and I even bet some of the members still remember that we have fixed cols so calm down dude

[Hetfield]

@ all of you bitching

[The Big V]

And its not like we keep the collisions for ourselves. For example take a look at WH and their stoppie method. The community learned about it 2 years later. The collisions arent still finished and you want them like some kind of addicted drug user.

[Asaaj]

Indeed. I am so mad I could swing a cactus at somebody  No but for real just don't do anymore okay ?

[Gavran]

Really nice video you got here BG, really like those stunts where you used MY collision fixes. However I told you not to release any of those stunts until the mod was publicly release because I suspected that this discussion would occur.

To clear everything up to all of you, I am NOT keeping it for DSS, nor am I only keeping it for those who I'd only like to have it. I gave these collision fixes to DSS so they could betatest it for me and give me feedback. So far thanks to them I have found and fixed approximately 60 bugs, and there are still many to be fixed.

At this point I have seen nothing but bitching about the collisions, none of you even posted like "Nice stunts, where did you get the collision? Can you please share a download link.
I am really having second thoughts about releasing this mod now however, I have used over 60 hours creating this and it's about 60% done I'd say, and I have yet to see any appreciation other than those of DSS.
Nobody whined about Daffy's collision fix in VC, nor about Ralleees in Astral, are the stunts really so hard to enjoy because you don't have access to it? Nobody complained about True Story mapmod not being publicly released either.

For now I don't have the motivation to finish it, BG was mainly my boost to get this done (Big V as well).

Also to all of those who might have gotten their hands on this mod somehow outside of DSS(mainly directed at Rainbow) please do not release any stunts with it.

Also a final note, I must warn you that the current version of the mod is heavily unfriendly to stunting. It has loads of bugs, some roofs that normally have collision don't and MANY invisible walls.

[MtS]

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