MeetMyMeat - Ocean Of Notion

[Genyus]

just stop you are either the worst troll in history or the biggest retard on this planet. Saying you are in the business for over 6 years and you can't even seem to notice the simplest of editing? Come on man, try again and maybe then we can take you seriously. Also, saying you speak the truth and nothing but the truth and that nobody can argue with you is a very ignorant mindset which leads to nothing and is either that of a trolls or of a person with an IQ not higher than 80.

That said, I've always had a certain suspicion for MMM as well, though his creativity and dedicated mindset (relanding hard ass stunts is something I wouldn't have the patience for) made me change my mind. I've been a good friend with him for the time he was here and he showed me a lot of insights on his thought process. This isn't just your ordinary stunter, trust me on that.

Here's a clip he once sent me, I've never wanted to post this because I wanted to protect him but you started something and I just wanna get in on this moment. It's what first made me suspicious towards him, and I've always stayed in doubt but seeing his stunts always made me think the opposite. Still I want to post this because I feel bad if I leave it rot away.

MMM modding?..

Out of my own experience with modding, the first time I saw this clip (called 'insanity spot') the first thing that sprung to my mind was "oh wow, this is SACC boosted". If you look at the clip, you can see that he shoots in the air without losing any forward momentum. It also looks like he gained air too early, before he bumped. This can be done by binding a key like + for example to the command line 'Gain ..% of Z speed'. The trick is to press this key right on the bump so it looks like you gained that air from the bump. What happens if you press too early though is that you still gain this air (and the bike tilting upward because you gain vertical speed) but you don't lose any forward speed which you normally would. It's as if you were driving on the street and suddenly pressed +. I've always kept my thoughts from this clip secret but I thought now is the time to share it. Make up your own mind what you think of it and draw your own conclusions. This is mine and even though this has made me doubt forever, I still think MMM is one of the greatest stunting minds ever to visit this place.

[Sheep]

To be honest, I find it funny how people don't give shit if we say stunts looks modded here, but instead videos in SA Un-modded section Rusch69 can move topic because one little suspicious looking stunt.

[灰野 敬二]

Genyus is an infinitely bigger modder than Roche and ShadowSniper ever were but no one accused him of modding when he released his best of. This made me realize you kind of have to be a suck-up to survive on GTAS.

I can tell you for sure at least 93% of these stunts are performed without any modification.

[value]

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[Genyus]

Genyus is an infinitely bigger modder than Roche and ShadowSniper ever were but no one accused him of modding when he released his best of. This made me realize you kind of have to be a suck-up to survive on GTAS.

Really? I don't care if I'm a bigger modder than anyone. To be honest they are the bigger modders for still doing it and not coming clean. Half of the posts on my vid were modding accusations so I don't know where you got those statistics from either.

and tbh, you are right. As long as you are a suck-up and seem nice or cool to everyone, nobody or at least not a significant enough amount of people will suspect you. People seem to be able to just do what they want and not get called out for it.

GTAS is crooked, but who the fuck cares anyways? 

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That's funny, I didn't see anyone asking for your shitty opinion. It's exactly this kind of behavior that is destroying stunting and this community in general, you stupid twat.

[just stop]

Genyus is an infinitely bigger modder than Roche and ShadowSniper ever were but no one accused him of modding when he released his best of. This made me realize you kind of have to be a suck-up to survive on GTAS.

I can tell you for sure at least 93% of these stunts are performed without any modification.

I knew I shouldn't have tried to point out every choppy stunt because you would just say it's editing. As for being sure that 93% are NOT modded?? THANK YOU! If there was ever a doubt that ONE PERCENT of the stunts were modded, then I deserve to be heard. I would like to invite you to forget all of the other instances I mentioned, then, and focus hard on 6:15. Nothing anyone says can convince me that isn't modded. And once a modder, always a modder.

[value]

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That's funny, I didn't see anyone asking for your shitty opinion. It's exactly this kind of behavior that is destroying stunting and this community in general, you stupid twat.

Y U SO MAD BRO ?
The sentence was dedicated to "just stop", np

[Daksad]

Genyus is an infinitely bigger modder than Roche and ShadowSniper ever were but no one accused him of modding when he released his best of. This made me realize you kind of have to be a suck-up to survive on GTAS.

I can tell you for sure at least 93% of these stunts are performed without any modification.

I knew I shouldn't have tried to point out every choppy stunt because you would just say it's editing. As for being sure that 93% are NOT modded?? THANK YOU! If there was ever a doubt that ONE PERCENT of the stunts were modded, then I deserve to be heard. I would like to invite you to forget all of the other instances I mentioned, then, and focus hard on 6:15. Nothing anyone says can convince me that isn't modded. And once a modder, always a modder.

Prog landed the top and he got a similar bump.

You can't prove whether someone mods or not, it's just your opinion. I read your whole post and checked the stunts you mentionned but I think the stunts are clean. You can't expect us to listen to you and change our minds when you can't change yours.

[Beat]

@"just stop"?!?! So what do you want now? I'd cut my dick off if you even had the slightest ability to think of these stunt ideas done in this video or even better.. perform these ideas done in this video EVEN if you did it with mods. So what do you really want now? I'll answer that for you, you want nothing basically.. it's almost equivalent to sticking it up your ass and believing its sexually arousing when its not, oh deluded you. So to finish it off, you're probably one of those people that choke on their own tongue. Fucking hell.

[Genyus]

Y U SO MAD BRO ?
The sentence was dedicated to "just stop", np

my bad then, not that it was very clear you were talking to him but sorry bout that.

[puzzLe]

hey guys let's all care about the random person who joins under a different name who doesn't have the balls to post it under his own name because he's scared he'll lose the shitty little bit of respect he had left around here

[NuclearDeath]

You can't prove whether someone mods or not, it's just your opinion.

Actually, when it's fucking obvious you can, like odd's mid-air boost during his wallclimb in Onslaught. About Genyus clip though, there is nothing wrong, people just see what they want to see.

No offens but I do notice that it's usually the modders themselves who accuse others of such a thing, I still remember that crazy modded finisher ptb of yours in some vid, or that obviously modded ptb in some GDL collab. Ridiculously modded.

EDIT to be on-topic : Legendary vid MMM.

[Asaaj]

Stop guys Take it to a different thread, this is about MMM's best of and I don't see any except Genyus' and juststop's ridicolous claims to be close to related to MMM's video.

[FloW]

You can't prove whether someone mods or not, it's just your opinion.

Actually, when it's fucking obvious you can, like odd's mid-air boost during his wallclimb in Onslaught. About Genyus clip though, there is nothing wrong, people just see what they want to see.

What's wrong with you seriously? I think I've seen 20 posts about this stunt from you, and to be honest there's NOTHING wrong with it, completely NOTHING. Maybe you have never done boosts, I dunno. Odd has landed so many big air stunts which looks modded but you have to whine about that lame ass boost everywhere

[Izzeee]

Hi. I am nobody especially important, just a person that happened to discover the gtastunting forums over 6 years ago during the golden age of SA stunting. I have been inactive on the forums for a few years, but suffice it to say I have seen a great number of stunt videos; enough to know when someone is modding. I have seen modders get caught firsthand, and I've experimented with modding myself so I would be able to better recognize it. However, I have never released a video containing modded stunts and passed it off as unmodded. I will not tell you who I really am, because you would probably use various logical fallacies like saying you've never heard of me to discount what I'm saying instead of addressing the facts. The evidence is all there in the video. I have listed the exact seconds where evidence of modding is visible. I really feel sorry that you need to feed your ego by putting together videos with hacked stunts so you can somehow feel superior and validated by a bunch of noobs that wouldn't know legit (or fake) stunting if they saw it. I'm only doing this because I truly have a love of stunting, and I hate to see this movement hijacked by cheaters who use mods to get popularity. True stunting will always be about finding inspiration from your own creativity, a love of the game, and respect for the community. So, know that the spirit of true stunting will never die. Know that those who came before are still watching. And know that those who earned their respect the old-fashioned way do not like what they see.

1:52-Definitely modded. Obviously used SACC. Tackleberry was able to get away with this kind of thing, but even he got caught and had to admit it. I'll explain exactly what type of modding I'm talking about below. (I'm speaking of tackleberry's bbm from Out of Reach by TMS. Funny how it's always the person editing the video that thinks they can get away with modding...)
1:56-got a little too much air from that, but can't tell if modded or not.
2:40-A tell tale sign of using SACC to alter your trajectory. You seem to freeze for an instant in midair.
3:09-Another example of the subtle extra frames/glitching forward effect from modding directional speed with SACC.
3:48-Crystal clear example of modding. Same story, increasing vertical velocity with SACC. Obviously impossible otherwise.
4:00-I thought this was the only legit stunt in the vid at first, but you clearly jerk forward like you badly tried to edit out the effect I'm talking about from altering your trajectory mid-stunt.
4:07 and 4:10-more than one instance of modding in a single stunt! I applaud your very creative use of mods!
4:44 and 4:46-More of the same. Obvious speed boost out of nowhere then another jerking motion midair.
5:07 and 5:09-You almost did a good enough job editing this one to make it look clean, but I don't believe it is.
5:14-How clever of you, the editor, to cut in the clip when you did. Like, the second after you speed hacked.
6:15-GOD AWFUL. If you did not notice that there was something fishy with this video at this point, then stop calling yourself a stunter. He literally shoots straight up and it looks sketchy as fuck. I don't care if he used RAD's method, there's only one thing that can make an NRG do that, and that is SA Control Center.
6:31-You were in the middle of a spin, and then suddenly you stop spinning just in time to land the grind all clean...Not letting that slip past me.
6:36-no mods this time, just don't think you're the first to do a quadbike grind.
6:43-again, you jerk and move in another direction all in mid air. I'm starting to think the modding will never end.
8:33-What more proof do you need!? Blatantly modded. He just boosts up like a rocket and overshoots the tower by more than enough to be obvious about it.

Don't believe me? watch at 6:15 and 8:33 one more time. There is really no room for arguing. Have a nice day!

@just stop:
look at the red marked sentence and answer me: so why do you try to kill the spirit of stunting with posting things like this?

this video is the most awesome video i've ever seen until yet, and you're just trying to troll around and kill this wonderful feeling which i had during watching it. go home and tell this "MMM is a modder" story your mom. i think she will believe you