MeetMyMeat - Ocean Of Notion

[Pein]

You are fucking awsome.incredible!!!Best of the best.2:55 AMAZING SOLO of the year

[WaRoW]

we didn't work enough together, is it too late ?

[灰野 敬二]

^^^^ Yes it is. Boyan has been abducted by his alien brothers and will never return to Earth unless you offer him some eccentric french delicacy because he hadn't eaten any food in the last couple of months.

[TOXIC]

I'm kinda in love.. Rest said by the sig..

[Shifftee]

Oh my god, this was so awesome.

[just stop]

Hi. I am nobody especially important, just a person that happened to discover the gtastunting forums over 6 years ago during the golden age of SA stunting. I have been inactive on the forums for a few years, but suffice it to say I have seen a great number of stunt videos; enough to know when someone is modding. I have seen modders get caught firsthand, and I've experimented with modding myself so I would be able to better recognize it. However, I have never released a video containing modded stunts and passed it off as unmodded. I will not tell you who I really am, because you would probably use various logical fallacies like saying you've never heard of me to discount what I'm saying instead of addressing the facts. The evidence is all there in the video. I have listed the exact seconds where evidence of modding is visible. I really feel sorry that you need to feed your ego by putting together videos with hacked stunts so you can somehow feel superior and validated by a bunch of noobs that wouldn't know legit (or fake) stunting if they saw it. I'm only doing this because I truly have a love of stunting, and I hate to see this movement hijacked by cheaters who use mods to get popularity. True stunting will always be about finding inspiration from your own creativity, a love of the game, and respect for the community. So, know that the spirit of true stunting will never die. Know that those who came before are still watching. And know that those who earned their respect the old-fashioned way do not like what they see.

1:52-Definitely modded. Obviously used SACC. Tackleberry was able to get away with this kind of thing, but even he got caught and had to admit it. I'll explain exactly what type of modding I'm talking about below. (I'm speaking of tackleberry's bbm from Out of Reach by TMS. Funny how it's always the person editing the video that thinks they can get away with modding...)
1:56-got a little too much air from that, but can't tell if modded or not.
2:40-A tell tale sign of using SACC to alter your trajectory. You seem to freeze for an instant in midair.
3:09-Another example of the subtle extra frames/glitching forward effect from modding directional speed with SACC.
3:48-Crystal clear example of modding. Same story, increasing vertical velocity with SACC. Obviously impossible otherwise.
4:00-I thought this was the only legit stunt in the vid at first, but you clearly jerk forward like you badly tried to edit out the effect I'm talking about from altering your trajectory mid-stunt.
4:07 and 4:10-more than one instance of modding in a single stunt! I applaud your very creative use of mods!
4:44 and 4:46-More of the same. Obvious speed boost out of nowhere then another jerking motion midair.
5:07 and 5:09-You almost did a good enough job editing this one to make it look clean, but I don't believe it is.
5:14-How clever of you, the editor, to cut in the clip when you did. Like, the second after you speed hacked.
6:15-GOD AWFUL. If you did not notice that there was something fishy with this video at this point, then stop calling yourself a stunter. He literally shoots straight up and it looks sketchy as fuck. I don't care if he used RAD's method, there's only one thing that can make an NRG do that, and that is SA Control Center.
6:31-You were in the middle of a spin, and then suddenly you stop spinning just in time to land the grind all clean...Not letting that slip past me.
6:36-no mods this time, just don't think you're the first to do a quadbike grind.
6:43-again, you jerk and move in another direction all in mid air. I'm starting to think the modding will never end.
8:33-What more proof do you need!? Blatantly modded. He just boosts up like a rocket and overshoots the tower by more than enough to be obvious about it.

Don't believe me? watch at 6:15 and 8:33 one more time. There is really no room for arguing. Have a nice day!

[iCy]

Busted!

[Herb]

I lold. 

[iCy]

Dude you are obsessed. Most of your arguments are bullshit, I mean the mod spotting :S
You already deal with SA stunting over 6 years and don't have really a clue about stunting... too lazy to write more sorry : (

[Determined]

Hi. I am nobody especially important, just a person that happened to discover the gtastunting forums over 6 years ago during the golden age of SA stunting. I have been inactive on the forums for a few years, but suffice it to say I have seen a great number of stunt videos; enough to know when someone is modding. I have seen modders get caught firsthand, and I've experimented with modding myself so I would be able to better recognize it. However, I have never released a video containing modded stunts and passed it off as unmodded. I will not tell you who I really am, because you would probably use various logical fallacies like saying you've never heard of me to discount what I'm saying instead of addressing the facts. The evidence is all there in the video. I have listed the exact seconds where evidence of modding is visible. I really feel sorry that you need to feed your ego by putting together videos with hacked stunts so you can somehow feel superior and validated by a bunch of noobs that wouldn't know legit (or fake) stunting if they saw it. I'm only doing this because I truly have a love of stunting, and I hate to see this movement hijacked by cheaters who use mods to get popularity. True stunting will always be about finding inspiration from your own creativity, a love of the game, and respect for the community. So, know that the spirit of true stunting will never die. Know that those who came before are still watching. And know that those who earned their respect the old-fashioned way do not like what they see.

1:52-Definitely modded. Obviously used SACC. Tackleberry was able to get away with this kind of thing, but even he got caught and had to admit it. I'll explain exactly what type of modding I'm talking about below. (I'm speaking of tackleberry's bbm from Out of Reach by TMS. Funny how it's always the person editing the video that thinks they can get away with modding...)
1:56-got a little too much air from that, but can't tell if modded or not.
2:40-A tell tale sign of using SACC to alter your trajectory. You seem to freeze for an instant in midair.
3:09-Another example of the subtle extra frames/glitching forward effect from modding directional speed with SACC.
3:48-Crystal clear example of modding. Same story, increasing vertical velocity with SACC. Obviously impossible otherwise.
4:00-I thought this was the only legit stunt in the vid at first, but you clearly jerk forward like you badly tried to edit out the effect I'm talking about from altering your trajectory mid-stunt.
4:07 and 4:10-more than one instance of modding in a single stunt! I applaud your very creative use of mods!
4:44 and 4:46-More of the same. Obvious speed boost out of nowhere then another jerking motion midair.
5:07 and 5:09-You almost did a good enough job editing this one to make it look clean, but I don't believe it is.
5:14-How clever of you, the editor, to cut in the clip when you did. Like, the second after you speed hacked.
6:15-GOD AWFUL. If you did not notice that there was something fishy with this video at this point, then stop calling yourself a stunter. He literally shoots straight up and it looks sketchy as fuck. I don't care if he used RAD's method, there's only one thing that can make an NRG do that, and that is SA Control Center.
6:31-You were in the middle of a spin, and then suddenly you stop spinning just in time to land the grind all clean...Not letting that slip past me.
6:36-no mods this time, just don't think you're the first to do a quadbike grind.
6:43-again, you jerk and move in another direction all in mid air. I'm starting to think the modding will never end.
8:33-What more proof do you need!? Blatantly modded. He just boosts up like a rocket and overshoots the tower by more than enough to be obvious about it.

Don't believe me? watch at 6:15 and 8:33 one more time. There is really no room for arguing. Have a nice day!

Hi Roche 

[plak]

"they see me tro..."

Maybe its MMM himself.

[FloW]

"you jerk and move in another direction all in mid air"

[TurBo]

Hi. I am nobody especially important, just a person that happened to discover the gtastunting forums over 6 years ago during the golden age of SA stunting. I have been inactive on the forums for a few years, but suffice it to say I have seen a great number of stunt videos; enough to know when someone is modding. I have seen modders get caught firsthand, and I've experimented with modding myself so I would be able to better recognize it. However, I have never released a video containing modded stunts and passed it off as unmodded. I will not tell you who I really am, because you would probably use various logical fallacies like saying you've never heard of me to discount what I'm saying instead of addressing the facts. The evidence is all there in the video. I have listed the exact seconds where evidence of modding is visible. I really feel sorry that you need to feed your ego by putting together videos with hacked stunts so you can somehow feel superior and validated by a bunch of noobs that wouldn't know legit (or fake) stunting if they saw it. I'm only doing this because I truly have a love of stunting, and I hate to see this movement hijacked by cheaters who use mods to get popularity. True stunting will always be about finding inspiration from your own creativity, a love of the game, and respect for the community. So, know that the spirit of true stunting will never die. Know that those who came before are still watching. And know that those who earned their respect the old-fashioned way do not like what they see.

1:52-Definitely modded. Obviously used SACC. Tackleberry was able to get away with this kind of thing, but even he got caught and had to admit it. I'll explain exactly what type of modding I'm talking about below. (I'm speaking of tackleberry's bbm from Out of Reach by TMS. Funny how it's always the person editing the video that thinks they can get away with modding...)
1:56-got a little too much air from that, but can't tell if modded or not.
2:40-A tell tale sign of using SACC to alter your trajectory. You seem to freeze for an instant in midair.
3:09-Another example of the subtle extra frames/glitching forward effect from modding directional speed with SACC.
3:48-Crystal clear example of modding. Same story, increasing vertical velocity with SACC. Obviously impossible otherwise.
4:00-I thought this was the only legit stunt in the vid at first, but you clearly jerk forward like you badly tried to edit out the effect I'm talking about from altering your trajectory mid-stunt.
4:07 and 4:10-more than one instance of modding in a single stunt! I applaud your very creative use of mods!
4:44 and 4:46-More of the same. Obvious speed boost out of nowhere then another jerking motion midair.
5:07 and 5:09-You almost did a good enough job editing this one to make it look clean, but I don't believe it is.
5:14-How clever of you, the editor, to cut in the clip when you did. Like, the second after you speed hacked.
6:15-GOD AWFUL. If you did not notice that there was something fishy with this video at this point, then stop calling yourself a stunter. He literally shoots straight up and it looks sketchy as fuck. I don't care if he used RAD's method, there's only one thing that can make an NRG do that, and that is SA Control Center.
6:31-You were in the middle of a spin, and then suddenly you stop spinning just in time to land the grind all clean...Not letting that slip past me.
6:36-no mods this time, just don't think you're the first to do a quadbike grind.
6:43-again, you jerk and move in another direction all in mid air. I'm starting to think the modding will never end.
8:33-What more proof do you need!? Blatantly modded. He just boosts up like a rocket and overshoots the tower by more than enough to be obvious about it.

Don't believe me? watch at 6:15 and 8:33 one more time. There is really no room for arguing. Have a nice day!

That is one of the only comments I can say is filled with bullshit start through finish. Sorry for having to kill your fantasy btw, but noone believes it.

[PtRvY]

And you're basing this accusation on the way the stunts look in the video. The video is more heavily edited than you might think. The entire first part of the video has a sort of wobbly effect applied to it, which can make you think the airtime or gained height is larger than it actually is. As for the "stops in mid air" they were either cuts in the editing which were a little fast to see, or the result of pmarci's recording (which was always this way, a little choppy but fancy - especially in the 3rd part), or even results of FL ON which MMM used in a great amount of these stunts.

Just so I don't seem ambiguous I'll give a concrete example: you stated 8:33 was an obvious example of modding. You obviously didn't notice that a small cut was made there. On the other hand I've seen the replays (including this one) and I can say nothing looks weird about them.

My point is, even if the editing made the whole stunts clear (in all their likeness), you can't make a solid accusation without reps.

[Genyus]

just stop you are either the worst troll in history or the biggest retard on this planet. Saying you are in the business for over 6 years and you can't even seem to notice the simplest of editing? Come on man, try again and maybe then we can take you seriously. Also, saying you speak the truth and nothing but the truth and that nobody can argue with you is a very ignorant mindset which leads to nothing and is either that of a trolls or of a person with an IQ not higher than 80.

That said, I've always had a certain suspicion for MMM as well, though his creativity and dedicated mindset (relanding hard ass stunts is something I wouldn't have the patience for) made me change my mind. I've been a good friend with him for the time he was here and he showed me a lot of insights on his thought process. This isn't just your ordinary stunter, trust me on that.

Here's a clip he once sent me, I've never wanted to post this because I wanted to protect him but you started something and I just wanna get in on this moment. It's what first made me suspicious towards him, and I've always stayed in doubt but seeing his stunts always made me think the opposite. Still I want to post this because I feel bad if I leave it rot away.

MMM modding?..

Out of my own experience with modding, the first time I saw this clip (called 'insanity spot') the first thing that sprung to my mind was "oh wow, this is SACC boosted". If you look at the clip, you can see that he shoots in the air without losing any forward momentum. It also looks like he gained air too early, before he bumped. This can be done by binding a key like + for example to the command line 'Gain ..% of Z speed'. The trick is to press this key right on the bump so it looks like you gained that air from the bump. What happens if you press too early though is that you still gain this air (and the bike tilting upward because you gain vertical speed) but you don't lose any forward speed which you normally would. It's as if you were driving on the street and suddenly pressed +. I've always kept my thoughts from this clip secret but I thought now is the time to share it. Make up your own mind what you think of it and draw your own conclusions. This is mine and even though this has made me doubt forever, I still think MMM is one of the greatest stunting minds ever to visit this place.