Official SA World Records List

[Juan]

Ive seen more than one record attemt with the no peds cheat plus I have the lonely mod, and didnt back up my files .

Well then those shouldnt be allowed either. If you want the defaults all you have to do is ask, but i've been going crazy with the distance record because of peds and cars in the fucking way and then you double my record with cheats. You wouldnt be happy if i did same :nono:

Woah whos going to go back and check if all the records all legal plus nobodys said its illegal to use the no traffic cheat.

[Southern Finest]

Ive seen more than one record attemt with the no peds cheat plus I have the lonely mod, and didnt back up my files .

Well then those shouldnt be allowed either. If you want the defaults all you have to do is ask, but i've been going crazy with the distance record because of peds and cars in the fucking way and then you double my record with cheats. You wouldnt be happy if i did same :nono:

Woah whos going to go back and check if all the records all legal plus nobodys said its illegal to use the no traffic cheat.

You dont have to say it, you should no cheating to gain an advantage in world records isnt allowed and about the other records, You can request to see video proof again + the outrageous stoppie is just obvious a glitch was used :nono:

[Juan]

in the rules it says only the car flies cheat is not allowed, and about the glitch, I used the slopes to my advantage, if you notice theres three slopes there each at about the same distance apart, all three gave me a boost allowing me to reach 3,000 feet.

[Southern Finest]

in the rules it says only the car flies cheat is not allowed, and about the glitch, I used the slopes to my advantage, if you notice theres three slopes there each at about the same distance apart, all three gave me a boost allowing me to reach 3,000 feet.

Which is the same hill i used but without all the 3 slopes cause its alot more difficult with traffic. You seem to be the only person in the world that thinks its ok to cheat when it comes to world records.

[Juan]

in the rules it says only the car flies cheat is not allowed, and about the glitch, I used the slopes to my advantage, if you notice theres three slopes there each at about the same distance apart, all three gave me a boost allowing me to reach 3,000 feet.

Which is the same hill i used but without all the 3 slopes cause its alot more difficult with traffic. You seem to be the only person in the world that thinks its ok to cheat when it comes to world records.

i think its alright as long as it dont modify the stoppie.

[Buzzsaw]

the official, or should i say IMPLIED, rule is that stunt-enhancing cheats are not allowed. the "reduced traffic" cheat technically is not a stunt-enhancing cheat because it does not have a direct effect on the execution of the stunt. it just gets annoying shit (peds and traffic) that you have no control over out of your way so that you can concentrate on the stunt. just like when you knock down a pole or other breakable object that is in your way. almost everyone uses it when stunting and i personally couldn't care less if people use it or not.

however, if this is going to become a big issue then the only thing i can say is that maybe we should have a poll and let everyone weigh in on the issue.

[finallight]

The no traffic cheat should be banned all together, especially for the WR's, IT IS CHEATING. This is how I see it, if you can do the stunt without using cheats/mods/trainers/teleporters then it's ok to do the stunt using cheats/mods/trainers/teleporters, cause it's already been proven to be possible without the use of them.

Let's see juan do that stoppie without that cheat on, and see if he can do it.
 

[Juan]

The no traffic cheat should be banned all together, especially for the WR's, IT IS CHEATING. This is how I see it, if you can do the stunt without using cheats/mods/trainers/teleporters then it's ok to do the stunt using cheats/mods/trainers/teleporters, cause it's already been proven to be possible without the use of them.

Let's see juan do that stoppie without that cheat on, and see if he can do it.

ill be back .
First i need somebody to send me the default files.

[marklund]

The no traffic cheat should be banned all together, especially for the WR's, IT IS CHEATING. This is how I see it, if you can do the stunt without using cheats/mods/trainers/teleporters then it's ok to do the stunt using cheats/mods/trainers/teleporters, cause it's already been proven to be possible without the use of them.

That's true.  :bowdown:  

[Buzzsaw]

ok, how about we compromise and ban the "reduced traffic" cheat for all stoppie and wheelie records since those are the stunts that this cheat has a significant impact on.

[Juan]

Alright here are the files I need, [span style=\'color:red\']pedgrp.dat[/span] and [span style=\'color:red\']vehicles.ide[/span], both found in data folder.

[Southern Finest]

It is possible without the no traffic cheat i aint denying that but it will take ages to get a backwards stoppie down that road avoiding the tram and cars. I see no problem using cheats to make stunts easier in stunt videos, but when it comes to a world record there should be a 0 tolerance on cheats such as cars flying and no traffic.
If we are to allow this cheat, why not allow glitch stoppies, cars fly and other cheats that make stunts easier.

[Buzzsaw]

It is possible without the no traffic cheat i aint denying that but it will take ages to get a backwards stoppie down that road avoiding the tram and cars. I see no problem using cheats to make stunts easier in stunt videos, but when it comes to a world record there should be a 0 tolerance on cheats such as cars flying and no traffic.
If we are to allow this cheat, why not allow glitch stoppies, cars fly and other cheats that make stunts easier.

i understand your point, but the issue of cheats is not that black-and-white. different cheats and glitches have a different impact. "cars fly" effects your stunts 1000x more  than "reduced traffic". you can't look  at this in terms of absolutes, because the cheats all have significantly varying degrees of effect.

this particular cheat (reduced traffic) is pretty much the only one that we can't all agree on. imo, as long as there is a level playing field then it really shouldn't matter. if everyone uses that cheat then all will be equal. if you choose not to use the cheat then you put yourself at a disadvantage, but at least you know you have a choice.

[Southern Finest]

It is possible without the no traffic cheat i aint denying that but it will take ages to get a backwards stoppie down that road avoiding the tram and cars. I see no problem using cheats to make stunts easier in stunt videos, but when it comes to a world record there should be a 0 tolerance on cheats such as cars flying and no traffic.
If we are to allow this cheat, why not allow glitch stoppies, cars fly and other cheats that make stunts easier.

i understand your point, but the issue of cheats is not that black-and-white. different cheats and glitches have a different impact. "cars fly" effects your stunts 1000x more  than "reduced traffic". you can't look  at this in terms of absolutes, because the cheats all have significantly varying degrees of effect.

this particular cheat (reduced traffic) is pretty much the only one that we can't all agree on. imo, as long as there is a level playing field then it really shouldn't matter. if everyone uses that cheat then all will be equal. if you choose not to use the cheat then you put yourself at a disadvantage, but at least you know you have a choice.

Yes but if you allow this cheat the record will become very huge and should be put in a category of its own. This cheat does effect the record directly, it helps this stunt alot by giving more space to move and turn.

[Juan]

Glitch stoppies? what are those, never seen them. In my opinion the backwards stoppie is a glitch in its self, why else are you going to explain the straightness in which the bike travels compared to a foward stoppie, and also you can see its a glitch in the way cj pedals backwards on air when your slowing down.