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[CLEO 3 & 4] Stream Ini Extender
« on: December 19, 2010, 02:01:44 PM »
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Description

This mod adds extra optional settings to the stream.ini file, which already contains several settings for GTASA. There are currently 9 extra settings. I'm working on finding some more to add.


Options

  • Frame Delay
  • Frame Limit
  • Black Roads Fix
  • License Plate Filtering
  • Stencil Shadow Opacity
  • Disable Interior Reflections (alt+tab bugfix)
  • Disable Motion Blur
  • Disable Sound
  • Disable Collision Particles
  • Disable Flashes
  • Disable Heat Haze
  • Disable Clouds
  • Disable Target Blip
  • Disable Specular Vehicle Lighting
  • Disable Vehicle Lighting


This mod works with both CLEO 4 and CLEO 3.

Visit the CLEO Website for the latest version of CLEO.

Note that if the mod doesn't work, it is probably due to an .exe error. You must have a v1.0 US gta_sa.exe file for this mod to work. Download a supported version here.



I've noticed this mod has been popularised by GTAStunting for use in increasing FPS via the "framedelay" option. However, a lot of people don't seem to understand how this value actually works, so I'll explain it.

In previous GTA games for the PC, high framerate had become an issue. The main menu became buggy on high-end PC's and the game wasn't capable of rendering physics properly between frames... So Rockstar added a 14 milleseconds delay of sorts (because they are cheapskates). If the computer rendered the frame faster than 14 milleseconds, it would have to wait the rest of the time before rendering the next.

This puts a limit on the FPS of high-end PCs to about 71.42 FPS. Which is 1000 (milleseconds) divided by 14.

So, adjusting "framedelay" can increase the global framerate limit of the game. A value of 10 should give a clean limit of 100 FPS and a value of 5 should relatively give a limit of 200 FPS. This only works if the computer can render a frame faster than the "framedelay" time in milleseconds.

A value of 0 would give an amazing 1000 FPS limit, which cannot actually be achieved by the computers of today (not that I know of, anyway... my max FPS is 40) - but a framerate this high would surely cause bugs for GTASA and probably other games.

So, I'd say instead of just setting this value to anything, think about what you actually need.


Stunters seem to be speculating whether using this can be cheating. I wouldn't say so. People with different framerates are always going to find it easier to do different stunts, no matter whether this value is edited or not. In some ways, a low value with this can cause more ease in some stunts, in others, it may make things harder. I think it's stupid to discriminate against whether stunters should use this or that setting in their game, because San Andreas was never made to make stunting fair. It's not the most consistent of games.

Furthermore, this value was made for adjusting, not setting to 0. If you do that, you'll probably get bugs. I use the value 0 since I can't get a high framerate anyway, so if I'm lucky enough to get a single frame to render faster than 14 milleseconds, I wan't that bit of FPS increase. This can be used hand in hand with the frame limiter.


Bet that strained your eyes, eh?



Last Update (0.4b): Added 4 new options and fixed a possible bug.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2010, 10:35:52 AM by Deji »

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Re: [CLEO 3 & 4] Stream Ini Extender
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 12:23:37 AM »
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So that one is modded ? i meant if we stunt with ? but the original one which only contain frame limit is modded or no ?

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Re: [CLEO 3 & 4] Stream Ini Extender
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 05:42:13 AM »
It's a good modification, but the fact is that framedelay option causes effects for stunters that can't be replicated without it. I don't know why, but even with FL on (30fps with this modification) it enables you to do things that are otherwise impossible. So if you use this for stunting, it's modding :P

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Re: [CLEO 3 & 4] Stream Ini Extender
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 06:06:48 AM »
It's a good modification, but the fact is that framedelay option causes effects for stunters that can't be replicated without it. I don't know why, but even with FL on (30fps with this modification) it enables you to do things that are otherwise impossible. So if you use this for stunting, it's modding :P
With 30 fps? What are these things that are impossible with 30 FPS? :sleep:

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Re: [CLEO 3 & 4] Stream Ini Extender
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 06:29:57 AM »
The frame delay is the time before the frame renders, so it works well irrelevant of FPS assuming the computer renders any number of frames faster than 14ms. So even if this value only takes effect every X frames, it's still taking effect. This, in a way, could make the FPS more unstable, but only for slower computers (in my case, it makes it more stable at 0, because it's really crap).

I've not seen or noticed any differences in gameplay (probably because my computer is slow) with this, although it has kept my FPS more stable and allowed me to actually do that tapping [Lean Forward] to get onto the smallest of buildings... Without this, I can't stunt, with it, I at least have a chance... So I am still going to be shunned for using mods to actually allow me to stunt? I stunt mainly for fun, anyway. The problem is, most stunters don't understand modding so well, so many theories I've read here always confuse me.


Anyway, Stream Ini Extender had an update last night (0.3b, whimmy wham wham wozzle!) which extends support to most GTASA v1 .exe's and adds 2 new settings for FPS or visual delight... 'njoy!

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Re: [CLEO 3 & 4] Stream Ini Extender
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2010, 07:01:20 AM »
Amazing modification, I've got my FPS set to around 170-200. If you go any higher, then replay's tend to look weird. I also don't see how this somewhat "changes physics", I usually run at 120 FPS normally & so I set it to 120 with the mod and found it gave no physical changes whatsoever. I think the theory that this mod changes the physics is just circumstantial, I found no change and in replay.rep's you can see no change except for a smoother stunt.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2010, 03:50:09 PM by Delfy »

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Re: [CLEO 3 & 4] Stream Ini Extender
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2010, 11:26:15 PM »
Cant dling -.-

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Re: [CLEO 3 & 4] Stream Ini Extender
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2010, 02:40:35 AM »
For those of you who cannot download it from the links provided in the original post, I've packed together all the files that are required.

Download - http://www.multiupload.com/PH7GLWOSRY

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Re: [CLEO 3 & 4] Stream Ini Extender
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2010, 04:38:14 AM »
That sux -.-

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Re: [CLEO 3 & 4] Stream Ini Extender
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2010, 01:00:48 PM »
Amazing, finally was able to get it working with the help of delfy. If i set it to zero my fps goes to 2000 and i cant play. Setting it to 1 lowers it to 500-600 but there's too many glitches(leaning foward without accelerating automatically makes you do a stoppie, and if you hit a Unique Stunt Jump the camera gets stuck).

Anyone know of a sacc like trainer that works with cleo, using both at the same time crashes my SA. :|

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Re: [CLEO 3 & 4] Stream Ini Extender
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2010, 02:06:14 PM »
Fixed the link (you guys have gotta learn about URLs, lol) - BB Code seemed to mess up my URL.

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Re: [CLEO 3 & 4] Stream Ini Extender
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2010, 04:11:04 PM »
Amazing, finally was able to get it working with the help of delfy. If i set it to zero my fps goes to 2000 and i cant play. Setting it to 1 lowers it to 500-600 but there's too many glitches(leaning foward without accelerating automatically makes you do a stoppie, and if you hit a Unique Stunt Jump the camera gets stuck).

Anyone know of a sacc like trainer that works with cleo, using both at the same time crashes my SA. :|
My SACC seems to work fine with the cleo mod. Although, SAMP doesn't work for me now for some reason.. I even tried a fresh install for SAMP, doesn't work.

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Re: [CLEO 3 & 4] Stream Ini Extender
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2010, 04:49:35 PM »
Amazing, finally was able to get it working with the help of delfy. If i set it to zero my fps goes to 2000 and i cant play. Setting it to 1 lowers it to 500-600 but there's too many glitches(leaning foward without accelerating automatically makes you do a stoppie, and if you hit a Unique Stunt Jump the camera gets stuck).

Anyone know of a sacc like trainer that works with cleo, using both at the same time crashes my SA. :|
My SACC seems to work fine with the cleo mod. Although, SAMP doesn't work for me now for some reason.. I even tried a fresh install for SAMP, doesn't work.
Fuck me then, it must be one of my SACC settings. Ill try removing my gravity settings. :ninja:

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Re: [CLEO 3 & 4] Stream Ini Extender
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2010, 04:57:17 PM »
SACC doesn't retain the option for gravity settings :blink:

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Re: [CLEO 3 & 4] Stream Ini Extender
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2010, 07:28:44 PM »
It was the fucking sacc spawner, which happens to be the best part. :(

 

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