Two queries

[Kingjad]

OK, first of all I'm still planning to get a new PC, budget would be about £400. I kinda got my eye on one or two, but suggestions from you jerkholes will also be appreciated. I use the term 'jerkholes' in the nicest possible way. Anyways, I'd mainly use it not for gaming, but for things like video editing - perhaps it's same thing in terms of how demanding it may be on graphics and stuff. I'm not talking about editing gta stuff, I film football matches lol.

Secondly, the old PC is staying put - it's currently in my sister's room, which is where everything else is, internet connection and stuff. Now, the new PC is gonna be in my room - I'm not too clued up on what to do in terms of both computers being connected to the internet, do you get a seperate wee box or do the computers have to share the one speed or what?

Hugs and kisses, your favourite fat Scottish bastard.

[Kingjad]

OI, anyone fancy helping me out here? The second query is what I want advice on most, never mind the first one for now.

[Flat Face]

I'm about as PC knowledgeable as a hooker lodged on a flag pole *oh shush krypton*

BUT what you need is a router, plug your modem into the router then your old PC into the router and you can either have a long ass ethernet cable from the router to your new PC or get a wireless router *which broadcasts your internet* and get some sort of wireless receiving device for your new PC.

I have a wireless router for PC so i can use the net on my PS3 and since then I've used it for my PSP's n Iphone so.. it comes in handy.

Though unless you live in a jungle, i suggest putting security on it when you're setting it up.

EDIT:

Just read your 1st *lol queer* query and I honestly have no idea, I'd say just go to a local PC shop near you and ask them about it... Though you might end up with some P.O.S windows vista running cardboard box.. so.. I'll just let the other non lodged hookers inform you on PS stuff

[torekk]

For the second thing: Do you got a router with more than one LAN port? If so, just buy a new ethernet cable, but make sure it's NOT a cross cable. If it only has one port, well, then just hook up an switch(doesn't costs much, like 20$ for a decent one) to the router. You'd need 2 new cables for that, one that comes from the router to the switch, and then one from that switch to your new computer.

Basically, if you got DHCP enabled, you can just easily plug in the cable and go surfing. If not, well then just ask again for help, I'd be glad to help you.

For the first thing: My knowledge about hardware is too outdated, so I can't really help you. (I still have a single core in my computer )

/e Well, plus that what Flat Face said, if you still have a modem(no idea, did you mention that?), then you could just buy a new router with an built-in DSL modem(they don't cost much, should be 30$ max.) And yes, when you connect 2 computers to an router(same goes for a modem) they have to share the speed.

[Kingjad]

I'd rather not share the speed really, slow enough at the best of times lol but I just assumed there's no real way around that. What yous are saying, some of it is gobbledegook to me but I only have one modem, with one wee port (I need to remove internet to PC to play xbox 360 lol).

Getting the computer this weekend - so sooner I get this sorted the better. Cheers for advice folks, keep it coming please.

[torekk]

So then the best thing would be to look for an router with an in-built DSL modem.

As for the computer, well if you really want to go for video editing, don't be to greedy with the RAM. Also, if possible try to get a dual core somewhere, shouldn't cost much. You can get a decent combination of RAM, mainboard and a dual core for like 150€ or 200€, so there's still enough money for a graphics card(you don't need anything fancy, maybe you could also go for a onboard solution, really just depends if it matches your budget) and a harddrive. Also, since you won't have a fancy graphics card, you don't need more than a 400W power supply. So, a case for like 30€ is OK, because they mostly have an in-built PSU, if you don't care that much on the design.

Wait, do you already got a new monitor, mouse, keyboard and that other stuff? If not, then the best thing would be, as Flat Face mentioned, just to get a complete PC somewhere.

[DeathCobra]

So then the best thing would be to look for an router with an in-built DSL modem.

As for the computer, well if you really want to go for video editing, don't be to greedy with the RAM. Also, if possible try to get a dual core somewhere, shouldn't cost much. You can get a decent combination of RAM, mainboard and a dual core for like 150€ or 200€, so there's still enough money for a graphics card(you don't need anything fancy, maybe you could also go for a onboard solution, really just depends if it matches your budget) and a harddrive. Also, since you won't have a fancy graphics card, you don't need more than a 400W power supply. So, a case for like 30€ is OK, because they mostly have an in-built PSU, if you don't care that much on the design.

Wait, do you already got a new monitor, mouse, keyboard and that other stuff? If not, then the best thing would be, as Flat Face mentioned, just to get a complete PC somewhere.

Don't use the PSU's that come with cases unless they're branded by someone decent. Alot of the time they're just shit and will most likely break within a few months, quite likely blowing the rest of the PC up with it.

[Kingjad]

I don't have anything right now Torrek, so the complete PC thing is what I was gunning for.

Would it be annoying to ask for you to recommend which router to go for specifically? As you can tell I'm not used to shopping for things like this so not sure what would be a good buy and what would be a turkey.

Btw someone else elsewhere said this to me:

If you are going to run network cables to all your devices, then all you need to do is to plug in a small network switch to your existing router/modem in order to then share the connection across multiple devices.

A four port switch would suffice in your case. Basically you run a network cable from your router/modem to one port on the little switch, and then plug each of your remaining devices into the remaining three ports, so effectively it's acting in the same way as a four gang electrical socket would, ie; sharing four ports from one

This assumes that your current router/modem is capable of assigning local network addresses (using a service called DHCP)

If not then what you need to buy, in my opinion, is a wireless router to plug into (or replace completely depending on your ISP and your setup) your modem. Most ADSL routers have modems built in to them.

It will have the capability of doing both wireless and wired connections (as all wireless routers have ports on them to allow for wired access too), and will also be able to distribute local network addresses, using your modem (also connected to this router) as the network "gateway" and of course this would also give you the option of connecting wirelessly too.

Is that what yous were basically saying or is he saying something different? (Yeah, I'm that stupid - but is anyone really surprised at that?)

[torekk]

Nope, he is kinda saying the same as me. But since you have a modem(I assume, because a router has more than one "wee" port), it'd be useless, because a switch doesn't decides where the sent packages(that's how the internet works: you go to google as an example, your browser sends a package to the server of google telling him, you want to see google so the server sends a package back to you with the site content) go to, that means every connected computer gets them. A router though does decide which computer requested which package.

For the specific router thing: It doesn't really matters. Just ask in the shop for a router, that has an in-built DSL modem and more than one LAN(not WAN) port and that supports DHCP. Propably any router by netgear would be a good deal. This one looks like a good deal for you: http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/WiredRouters/DG834.aspx

Routers are little computers these days, I don't know how much money you want to spend on them, but there are a few that can also share your printer, download stuff from the internet and such. Ofcourse they cost a bit more.

If it doesn't bothers you, just go to a local shop and ask for help. There's nothing wrong about it, too much technology coming out these days, you can't know about everything. 

[DeathCobra]

Every router has DHCP these days, make it easier to set up. Just buy some branded thing above £20 and you'll be fine.

[Kingjad]

In case anyone's interested, I've got my new PC. It's in its box - in my room - waiting for my room to be gutted out and the desk to be put in before it can be set up. Sigh. This is it btw:

Packard Bell thingy

Also, I just ordered the router Torekk suggested, so woohoo for that.

[Radioaktive]

Congrats on the new comp 
Looks pretty good

[godson]

Good 2 hear KingJad  looks like your job is paying well 

[Kingjad]

NMW ftw

[Genyus]

Anyone knows a good deal like KJ's (Good PC + a monitor and where those mouse and keys with it too?) which I can buy for around the same price and which CAN be shipped to Holland or bought in Holland?