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« on: April 08, 2008, 02:24:53 PM »
Hi!!

I'm now on a big very big decision!

I can't which dSLR to choose!

1st is
 Nikon D80


Price (US) • Body only: $ 999 [check price]
• Body + 18-135 mm DX lens kit: $ 1299  
Price (UK) • Body only: £ 699
• Body + 18-135 mm DX lens kit: £ 949  
Sensor *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ 23.6 x 15.8 mm CCD sensor
• Nikon DX format (1.5x FOV crop)
• 10.2 million effective pixels
• 10.8 million total pixels
• RGB Color Filter Array
• 12-bit A/D converter
Image sizes *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ 3872 x 2592 (Large, 10.0 MP)
• 2896 x 1944 (Medium, 5.6 MP)
• 1936 x 1296 (Small, 2.5 MP)
File formats • NEF (12-bit compressed RAW)
• JPEG (EXIF 2.21)
• NEF+JPEG
File sizes (approx.)  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ NEF (RAW): 12.4 MB
• JPEG Large / Fine: 4.8 MB
• JPEG Large / Normal: 2.4 MB
• JPEG Medium / Fine: 2.7 MB
• JPEG Medium / Normal: 1.3 MB
• JPEG Small / Fine: 1.2 MB
• JPEG Small / Normal: 0.6 MB  
Lens mount Nikon F mount (with AF coupling & AF contacts)
Lens compatibility • DX Nikkor : All functions supported
• Type G or D AF Nikkor : All functions supported
• Micro Nikkor 85 mm F2.8D : All functions supported except autofocus and some exposure modes
• Other AF Nikkor*2 : All functions supported except 3D color matrix metering, i-TTL balanced fill-fl ash for digital SLR
• Non-CPU : Can be used in exposure mode M, but exposure meter does not function; electronic range finder can be used if maximum aperture is f/5.6 or faster
*1 IX Nikkor lenses can not be used
*2 Excluding lenses for F3AF
 
Autofocus • TTL phase detection
• Nikon Multi-CAM 1000 autofocus module *
• Detection range: -1 to +19 EV (ISO 100 equivalent, normal temperature)
AF Assist • White light lamp
• Approximate range 0.5 to 3.0 m (1.6 - 9.8 ft)  
Lens servo • Single-servo AF (AF-S)
• Continuous-servo AF (AF-C)
• Automatic AF-S/AF-C (AF-A) *
• Manual focus (M)
Focus tracking  Predictive focus tracking automatically activated according to subject status in continuous-servo AF  
Focus area *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ Normal: 11 areas, single area or group can be selected
• Wide: focus area can be switched to center wide-frame focus area
AF Area mode • Single Area AF
• Dynamic Area AF
• Auto Area AF *  
Focus lock Focus can be locked by pressing shutter-release button halfway (single-servo AF) or by pressing AE-L/AF-L button
Exposure mode • Digital Vari-program
    - Auto, Portrait, Landscape, Close up, Sports, Night landscape, Night portrait
• Programmed auto (P) with flexible program
• Shutter-priority auto (S)
• Aperture priority auto (A)
• Manual (M)
Metering *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ Three mode through-the-lens (TTL) exposure metering system
• 3D color matrix metering II
• 420-pixel RGB sensor
• Center-weighted: Weight of 75% given to 6, 8, or 10-mm circle in center of frame
• Spot: Meters 3.5 mm circle (about 2.5% of frame) centered on active focus area
 
Metering range • EV 0 to 20 (3D color matrix or center-weighted metering)
• EV 2 to 20 (spot metering) (ISO 100 equivalent, f/1.4 lens, 20 °C) *  
Meter coupling Combined CPU and AI *  
Exposure compen. • +/- 5 EV
• 1/3 or 1/2 EV steps  
AE Lock Exposure value locked by pressing AE-L/AF-L button
AE Bracketing • 2 or 3 frames
• +/- 2 EV
• 1/3 or 1/2 EV steps
Sensitivity • Auto ISO (customizable)
• ISO 100
• ISO 125
• ISO 160
• ISO 200
• ISO 250
• ISO 320
• ISO 400
• ISO 500
• ISO 640
• ISO 800
• ISO 1000
• ISO 1250
• ISO 1600
• ISO 2000 equiv. (HI 0.3) *
• ISO 2500 equiv. (HI 0.7) *
• ISO 3200 equiv. (HI 1.0) *
Auto ISO options *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ Maximum ISO (200, 400, 800 or 1600)
• Minimum shutter speed (1 to 1/125 sec)  
Shutter • Electronically controlled vertical-travel focal plane shutter *
• 30 to 1/4000 sec *
• 1/3 or 1/2 EV steps
• Flash X-Sync: up to 1/200 sec *
• Bulb
White balance • Auto (TTL white-balance with 420 pixels RGB sensor *)
• Six manual modes with fine-tuning
    o Incandescent
    o Fluorescent
    o Direct sunlight
    o Flash
    o Cloudy
    o Shade
• Kelvin color temperature *
• Preset white balance (immediate or from photo) *
• White balance bracketing possible  
WB Bracketing  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ 2 or 3 frames
• +/- 1, 2 or 3 mired  
Color space • Ia (sRGB)
• II (Adobe RGB)
• IIIa (sRGB - optimized for landscapes)
Image parameters *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ Preset modes: Normal, Softer, Vivid, More Vivid, Portrait, B&W
• Sharpening: Auto, 6 levels
• Tone: Auto, 5 levels, Custom curve
• Color mode: Ia (sRGB), II (Adobe RGB), IIIa (sRGB)
• Saturation: Auto, 3 levels
• Hue: -9° to +9°
High ISO NR * • Normal
• Low
• High
• Off  
Viewfinder *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ Fixed eye-level pentaprism
• Built-in diopter adjustment (-2.0 to +1.0 m-1)
• Eyepoint: 19.5 mm (at -1.0 m-1)
• Frame coverage 95% (approx.)
• Viewfinder magnification approx. 0.94x with 50mm lens at infinity; -1.0 m-1
• Focusing screen: Type B BriteView clear matte screen Mark II with superimposed focus brackets and On-Demand grid lines  
Viewfinder information *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ Focus indications
• Metering system
• AE/FV lock indicator
• Flash sync indicator
• Shutter speed
• Aperture value
• Exposure/Exposure compensation indicator
• ISO sensitivity
• Exposure mode
• Flash output level compensation
• Exposure compensation
• Number of remaining exposures
LCD monitor *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ 2.5" TFT LCD
• 230,000 pixel TFT
• 170 degree viewing angle  
Built-in flash  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ Auto pop-up in Auto or Scene modes or in Auto mode
• Manual pop-up, electronic release
• Guide number 13 (ISO 100) *  
Flash control • TTL : TTL flash control by 420 pixel RGB sensor *
    o Built-in Speedlight: i-TTL balanced fill-flash or standard i-TTL flash (spot metering or mode dial set to M)
    o SB-800 or 600: i-TTL balanced fill-flash for digital SLR and standard i-TTL flash for digital SLR
• Auto aperture: Available with SB-800 with CPU lens *
• Non-TTL Auto: Available with Speedlights such as SB-800, 80DX, 28DX, 28, 27, and 22s
• Range-priority manual available with SB-800
Flash Sync Mode • Auto
• Fill-in flash
• Red-eye reduction
• Red-eye reduction with Slow Sync
• Slow Sync
• Rear-curtain Sync
• Off
Wireless Flash *  With SB-800, 600, and R200, supports Advanced Wireless Lighting (SB-600 and R200 only support AWL when used as remote flash), Auto FP High-Speed Sync, Flash Color Information Communication, modeling Flash, and FV Lock
Flash Sync speed  1/200 sec *  
Flash compensation  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ -3 to +1 EV
• 1/3 or 1/2 EV steps  
Accessory shoe • ISO standard hot-shoe with safety lock
Flash Sync Terminal No
DOF Preview When CPU lens is attached, lens aperture can be stopped down to value selected by user (A and M modes) or value selected by camera (other modes)
Shooting modes • Single frame shooting (S) mode
• Continuous shooting © mode: approx. 3 frame per second
• Self-timer
• Delayed remote mode
• Quick-resposne remote mode  
Continuous buffer * • 6 NEF (or JPEG+NEF)
• 23 JPEG Large/Fine
• 100 JPEG any smaller size  
Self-timer • 2, 5, 10 or 20 sec  
Remote control • Remote Cord MC-DC1 (optional, cable)
• Remote Control ML-L3 (optional, Infrared)
• Camera Control Pro software (optional)  
Text input Up to 36 characters of alphanumeric text input is available with LCD monitor and multi-selector; stored in EXIF header
Playback functions • Full frame
• Thumbnail (4 or 9 segments)
• Zoom (magnified)
• Slideshow (Standard or Pictmotion)
• RGB histogram indication *
• Shooting data
• Highlight point display
• Auto image rotation
Delete function  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ Card format
• All photographs
• Selected photographs  
Retouching *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ D-Lighting
• Red-eye reduction
• Trimming
• Overlay
• Monochrome and Filter
• Small picture
• Image overlay
Languages • Chinese (Simplified and Traditional)
• Dutch
• English
• Finnish
• French
• German
• Italian
• Japanese
• Korean
• Polish
• Portuguese
• Russian
• Spanish
• Swedish
Storage *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ Secure Digital / Secure Digital HC
• FAT / FAT32
• Supports firmware update via SD card  
Connectivity • USB 2.0 Hi-Speed (Mini-B connector) *
• Mass storage / PTP selectable
• Video out (NTSC or PAL selectable)
• DC-IN (optional AC adapter)
Power • Lithium-Ion battery pack EN-EL3e *
• MB-D80 battery pack / vertical grip (optional)
• AC Adapter EH-5 (optional)
Working environment  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ 0 to 40°C (32 to 104°F)
• Less than 85% humidity  
Dimensions *  132 x 103 x 77 mm (5.2 x 4.1 x 3.0 in)  
Weight (no battery) 585 g (1.3 lb)  
Weight (inc. batt) 668 g (1.5 lb)  
Box contents * Rechargeable Li-ion Battery EN-EL3e, Quick Charger MH-18a, Audio-Video Cable EG-D2, USB Cable UC-E4, Strap, Body cap, Eyepiece Cap DK-5, Rubber Eyecup DK-21, LCD monitor cover BM-7, Accessory shoe cover, PictureProject CD-ROM
Optional accessories *  Multi-Power Battery Pack MB-D80, Magnifying Eyepiece DK-21M, AC Adapter EH-5, Wireless Remote Control ML-L3, Remote Cord MC-DC1, Speedlight SB-800/SB-600/R200, Capture NX, Camera Control Pro.



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Canon EOS 40D




Sensor *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ 22.2 x 14.8 mm CMOS sensor
• RGB Color Filter Array
• Built-in fixed low-pass filter (with self-cleaning unit)
• 10.5 million total pixels
• 10.1 million effective pixels
• 5.7 µm pixel pitch
• 3:2 aspect ratio
Image processor *  DIGIC III
A/D conversion *  14 bit  
Image sizes *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ 3888 x 2592 (L; 10.1 MP)
• 2816 x 1880 (M; 5.3 MP)
• 1936 x 1288 (S; 2.5 MP)
File formats • RAW (.CR2; 14-bit *)
• JPEG (EXIF 2.21) - Fine / Normal
• RAW + JPEG (separate files)
• sRAW (2.5 MP) *
 
File sizes (approx.) * • JPEG L/Fine: 3.5 MB
• JPEG M/Fine: 2.1 MB
• JPEG S/Fine: 1.2 MB
• RAW: 12.4 MB
• sRAW: 7.1 MB  
Lenses • Canon EF / EF-S lens mount
• 1.6x field of view crop
Dust reduction *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ "EOS Integrated Cleaning System"
• Self-cleaning sensor unit (filter in front of sensor vibrates at high frequency at start-up and shutdown - can be disabled)
• Dust Delete Data - Data from a test shot is used to 'map' dust spots and can be later removed using Canon DPP Software  
Auto focus  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ 9-point TTL CMOS sensor
• All points cross-type for lenses of F5.6 or faster *
• Center point additionally sensitive with lenses of F2.8 or faster *
• AF working range: -0.5 - 18 EV (at 23°C, ISO 100)
Focus modes • One shot AF
• AI Servo AF
• AI Focus AF
• Manual focus
AF point selection • Auto
• Manual
AF assist • Stroboscopic flash
• 4.0 m range (at center)
Metering • TTL 35 zone SPC
• Metering range: EV 0.0 - 20 EV *  
Metering modes • Evaluative 35 zone
• Partial (9% at center)
• Spot metering (approx. 3.8% at center *)
• Center-weighted average
 
AE lock • Auto: One Shot AF with evaluative metering
• Manual: AE lock button
Exposure compensation • +/-2.0 EV
• 0.3 or 0.5 EV increments
Exposure bracketing • +/- 2.0 EV
• 0.3 or 0.5 EV increments
Sensitivity • Auto ISO (see below) *
• ISO 100 - 1600
• 0.3 or 1.0 EV increments
• ISO 3200 (Enhanced H)
 
Auto ISO * • P, Av, A-Dep: ISO 400 - 800 (will drop to ISO 100 to avoid over-exposure)
• Tv: ISO 400 (will use 100 - 800 if required)
• M: ISO 400
• Scene modes (apart from Sport and Portrait): ISO 100 - 800
• Sport scene mode: ISO 400 - 800
• Portrait scene mode: ISO 100
• With flash (all modes): ISO 400
Shutter • Focal-plane shutter
• 100,000 exposure durability
• 30 - 1/8000 sec
• 0.3 or 0.5 EV increments
• Flash X-Sync: 1/250 sec
• Bulb
Aperture values • F1.0 - F91
• 0.3 or 0.5 EV increments
• Actual aperture range depends on lens used
Noise reduction  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ Long exposure (1 sec or longer)
• Optional for High ISO (default Off)  
White balance • Auto
• Daylight
• Shade
• Cloudy
• Tungsten
• Fluorescent
• Flash
• Custom
• Kelvin (2500 * - 10000 K in 100 K steps)
WB bracketing • +/-3 levels
• 3 images
• Blue / Amber or Magenta / Green bias  
WB shift  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ Blue (-9) To Amber (+9)
• Magenta (-9) to Green (+9)
Picture style • Standard
• Portrait
• Landscape
• Neutral
• Faithful
• Monochrome
• User def. 1
• User def. 2
• User def. 3  
Custom image parameters • Sharpness: 0 to 7
• Contrast: -4 to +4
• Saturation: -4 to +4
• Color tone: -4 to +4
• B&W filter: N, Ye, Or, R, G
• B&W tone: N, S, B, P, G  
Color space • sRGB
• Adobe RGB
Viewfinder • Eye-level pentaprism
• 95% frame coverage
• Magnification: 0.95x * (-1 diopter with 50 mm lens at infinity)
• Eyepoint: 22 mm *
• Interchangeable focusing screen Ef-A standard (2 other types optional) *
• Dioptric adjustment: -3.0 to +1.0 diopter
Focusing screens
(optional) • Ef-A (Standard Precision Matte - included)
• Ef-D (Precision Matte with grid)
• Ef-S (Super Precision Matte for easier manual focus)  
Mirror • Quick-return half mirror (transmission:reflection ratio 40:60)
• Mirror lock-up (once or multiple exposures)  
Viewfinder info • AF points
• Focus confirmation light
• ISO sensitivity *
• Shutter speed
• Aperture
• Manual exposure
• AE Lock
• Exposure compensation amount
• AEB level
• Spot metering area
• Flash ready
• Red-eye reduction lamp on
• High-speed sync
• FE Lock
• Flash compensation amount
• ISO speed (while changing)
• WB correction (while changing)
• B&W mode icon *
• Warnings
• Maximum burst for continuous shooting
• Buffer space  
LCD monitor *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ 3.0 " TFT LCD
• 230,000 pixels
• 7 brightness levels
LCD Live view *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ Live TTL display of scene from CMOS image sensor
• 100% frame coverage
• Real-time evaluative metering using CMOS image sensor
• Best view or exposure simulation
• Grid optional (thirds)
• Magnify optional (5x or 10x at AF point)
• Optional Auto-focus with mirror-down / mirror-up sequence
• Two modes; normal and quieter
• Remote live view using EOS Utility 2.0 (via USB or WiFi/Ethernet using WFT)
• Manual focus only
 
Record review • Off
• On (histogram via INFO button)
• Display mode same as last used Play mode
• 2 / 4 / 8 sec / Hold
Playback modes *  1. Single image with exposure, file number, storage slot
2. As 1 but also image count and quality
3. Detailed exposure information, thumbnail and luminance histogram
4. Less detailed exposure info., thumbnail, luminance and RGB histograms

 
Playback features  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ Optional blinking highlight alert *
• Optional AF point display *
• Magnified view (up to 10x)
• 2x2 * or 3x3 thumbnail index
• Jump (by 1, 10, 100 images / by screen or date)
• Delete / Protect
Flash • Auto pop-up E-TTL II auto flash
• FOV coverage up to 17 mm (27 mm equiv.)
• Guide number approx 13 m / 43 ft (ISO 100)
• Cycle time approx. 3 sec
• Flash compensation +/-2.0 EV in 0.3 or 0.5 EV increments
• X-Sync: 1/250 sec
External flash • E-TTL II auto flash with EX-series Speedlites
• In-camera flash configuration (currently only 580 EX II) *
• Wireless multi-flash support
• PC Sync
Shooting modes • Auto
• Program AE (P)
• Shutter priority AE (Tv)
• Aperture priority AE (Av)
• Manual (M)
• Auto depth-of-field
• Portrait
• Landscape
• Close-up
• Sports
• Night portrait
• Flash off
• Camera user settings 1 *
• Camera user settings 2 *
• Camera user settings 3 *
 
Drive modes • Single
• High-speed continuous: 6.5 fps *
• Low-speed continuous: 3 fps
• Self-timer: 2 or 10 sec (3 sec with mirror lock-up)
 
Burst buffer *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ Large/Fine JPEG: 75 frames
• RAW: 17 frames
• RAW+JPEG: 14 frames
Orientation sensor  Yes
Auto rotation *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ On (recorded and LCD display)
• On (recorded only)
• Off
Custom functions *  24 custom functions in 4 groups  
Menu languages *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ English
• German
• French
• Dutch
• Danish
• Portuguese
• Finnish
• Italian
• Norwegian
• Swedish
• Spanish
• Greek
• Russian
• Polish
• Simplified Chinese
• Traditional Chinese
• Korean
• Japanese
 
Firmware User upgradable
Portrait grip  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ Optional WFT-E3/E3A *
• Optional BP-E2N battery grip *
• Optional BP-E2 battery grip
Connectivity • USB 2.0 Hi-Speed
• Video out
• N3 type wired remote control
• PC Sync flash terminal
• Communication terminal on base for WFT-E3/E3A *
 
Storage • Compact Flash Type I or II (inc. FAT32)
• Canon Original Data Security Kit supported ("Original Image Data")
• No CF card supplied
Power • Lithium-Ion BP-511A rechargeable battery (supplied & charger)
• Supports BP-511 / BP-511A / BP-512 / BP-514
• CR2016 Lithium battery (date/time backup)
• Optional AC adapter
Wireless connectivity *
(optional WFT-E3/E3A)  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ Mounts on base of camera and also acts as vertical grip
• Has its own BP-511A battery
• Wireless 802.11b / 802.11g
• Wireless security: WEP, TKIP/AES, WPA-PSK, WPA2-PSK
• Wireless methods: Infrastructure or Ad Hoc
• Wired ethernet (100 Base-TX)
• Transfer: FTP, PTP (remote control by computer), HTTP (view / remote fire)
• USB host capable: External hard drives, flash drives
• USB comms: GPS devices (records coordinates and altitude in image header)  
Dimensions *  146 x 108 x 74 mm (5.7 x 4.2 x 2.9 in)
Weight *  ΓΆβ‚¬ΒΆ No battery: 740 g (1.6 lb)
• With battery: 822 g (1.8 lb)


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Offline Auzas

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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2008, 02:56:38 PM »
You could just send a PM to firebugs :/

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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2008, 02:57:14 PM »
go for the cannon dude, the sensor may be a little big smaller but the D80 has a 3fps full auto while the 40D has massive 6.5fps. that alone makes it a better camera.

but either way, your going to wind up buying a nice zoom lens, the stock lens isnt always the greatest but the stock that came with my canon rebel XT came with a 18-50mm lens which zooms out quiet nicely

i just bought a 75-300 for $200 at ritz

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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2008, 04:49:50 PM »
Yea I would go with the cannon for many reasons.

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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2008, 11:28:20 AM »
Yes i  liked that canon too!!

BUT

nikon lenses is cheaper!

I'll probably will buy just a body! couse i have one Kit lense (18 -55 )
I'll probably will buy Canon 24 -105 f 2.8 L lense!!
But deeeam that all together will cost so fucking  MUCH!!

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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2008, 11:33:30 AM »
cannon ftw srsly

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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2008, 11:53:43 AM »
Well, i'd go for Canon too :/

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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2008, 11:35:10 AM »
OK


CANON!
You can!

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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2008, 07:22:16 PM »
CANON FOR LIFE

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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2008, 10:47:50 PM »
Go for the expensive one.

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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2008, 05:11:14 AM »
I've always liked canon's I use a 350D at the moment, which does the job for me. If I was to consider getting a new camera it would be a canon. But in the end your the one buying it.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2008, 05:17:59 AM by Nikon »

 

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