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[VaNilla]

Many people still consider UnorthodoX for being the best VC video ever done, but to be honest there are a lot of videos (even from Barney) which are a lot better stunting wise. The fact that it was released 8 years ago (wow that was weird to write down) brings up some odd experience for the people being around then, and for those who joined the stunting world later.

For me, UnorthodoX has always been my favourite stunting video. It might not match up to today's standards (or Barney's later solos), but it blew everything away at the time. It blew them away to such a degree that it single-handedly changed VC stunting. It's impossible to match that now in VC/SA, given that we know so much about them, but that's why it's my favourite stunt video of all time (and maybe the same for some other old members). I think we can still see a video like that in GTA V, so here's hoping .

[waNEr]

-Morning Mr Herr-Dav', we liked your resume, now we need to see some of your projects to find out if you're as good as we need you to be

-Sure *Shows a bunch of GTAS videos*

-Videogames? Is this some kind of joke? I mean.... HOLY SHIT HOW DID HE GET TO THAT BUILDING? WAIT HOW DID H... SACREBLEU

-I've seen some shit, Boss

[TrYp]

Many people still consider UnorthodoX for being the best VC video ever done, but to be honest there are a lot of videos (even from Barney) which are a lot better stunting wise. The fact that it was released 8 years ago (wow that was weird to write down) brings up some odd experience for the people being around then, and for those who joined the stunting world later.

For me, UnorthodoX has always been my favourite stunting video. It might not match up to today's standards (or Barney's later solos), but it blew everything away at the time. It blew them away to such a degree that it single-handedly changed VC stunting. It's impossible to match that now in VC/SA, given that we know so much about them, but that's why it's my favourite stunt video of all time (and maybe the same for some other old members).

That's exactly what I wanted to say. Even videos released after the 2008-2009 mark didn't have that much influence to stunting simply because at that time people and stunting become to the point where landing something unique didn't surprise most of the people around here. Of course there are probably dozens of videos which had a lot more effort put into them then the effort put into UnorthodoX, but the fact that it was so out of the standards influenced most of the stunters.
Probably that's the reason that my favourite video is DCLXVI, because the amount of bigair stunts in that video was so unique that I've never seen before. Even though the stunts themselves aren't that much difficult to land (even myself landed most of them during my carreer) they seemed so outstanding among the videos released back then.

[Rusch69]

Another factor: The SA FL on/off thing was an important game changer. I think new guys just can't appreciate good old stuff due to lack of experience with the limiter enabled. Stunts by Kert, TD & Explo for example don't seem too big nowadays, but they were back then. In my eyes that makes it an unfair comparison.

Sadly it mostly became about higher & further, hence the strong propensity to mod. I'd love to see sucky modders struggle trying to reland some of the aforementioned guys' stunts with FL on in a clean game installation.

The wow-factor is also a big thing. Let's say someone discovered a new method and did a medicore stunt using it. People usually will be impressed by it since it's something new and unseen. Later on someone else tops the stunt with the same method, but it gets less appreciation simply because it ain't new no more. Same goes for landing specific stuff (i.e. a roof/precision that everyone thought wouldn't ever be landed).



Edit - @Petar: Course has always been extremely overrated in my eyes. However, that's a perfect example for how individual the definition of awesomeness is.

[PrzemOO]

I totally agree with what has been said by Rusch in here, I also think As One Again is in the top 3 of best SA videos but it doesn't get the deserved recognition due to previously mentioned factors.

Not to spam this topic, are you guys trying V out? Maybe a video coming?

[jakuba]

If I recall corectly the frame limiter thingy started around Unbroken when DC landed finisher with it off. Juan was trying it fl on. Then fl off became more popular.

[PrzemOO]

Sorry for unnecessary reply in here yet again but I think it was fairly earlier than Kukiel pointed out. For instance, As One Again was released in 2006, RAD & Fugitive were already using it, I remember ExPlosion saying they were racing for the opener and Fugi 'ruined' it with FL:Off.

[burn]

I'd like to give a shot on V now it's been released on pc, nothing sure right now.

Through the years and from my experience I can say fl-on is only usefull for:
-Grabbing
-kick-ass grind executions (rotations)
-combos with long grinds (your speed decrease slowly on a grind using fl-on, so you can easily reach second grind if the first one is long)
-stoppies combos (stoppie to backwards stoppie is easier to perform with fl-on and requires less speed)

[jakuba]

Sorry for unnecessary reply in here yet again but I think it was fairly earlier than Kukiel pointed out. For instance, As One Again was released in 2006, RAD & Fugitive were already using it, I remember ExPlosion saying they were racing for the opener and Fugi 'ruined' it with FL:Off.

Well yeah I meant that it started being acceptable after Unbroken.

[jooker]

11111st comment, sorry had to.

[UndeadX]

11111st comment, sorry had to.

nope this is the one 

[Diaz]

11111st comment, sorry had to.

nope this is the one 

actually lol'd

[jooker]

Ehr, I was just testing you. Really. 

[Herb]

Sorry for unnecessary reply in here yet again but I think it was fairly earlier than Kukiel pointed out. For instance, As One Again was released in 2006, RAD & Fugitive were already using it, I remember ExPlosion saying they were racing for the opener and Fugi 'ruined' it with FL:Off.

It was being used even earlier then that as I talked to Juan about it back in the day and he told me he al,ways used FL-Off.

On-topic: What's your favorite VC vid? For me it's Lagoon, everything about it is perfect.

[Jason]

Existential Frustrations. Best song ever, best style ever.