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[Eddeman]

It was 210ft, I mentioned it in the vid description but forgot it in my post The naval base one is 503 distance and 196 height.

[Dimension]

That was sick, Eddeman. 

[Brainkiller]

The fact of the matter is Boxxx's stunts don't look modded. You might be suspicious because of the height he gets or the distance, but the actually stunts themselves don't LOOK modded.

So yes, you might have had suspicions that he mods but there simply wasn't any proof, let alone enough proof to kick him out the crew.

The only "proof" I had that he modded was his RADs, he seemed to gain speed at the wrong point of the RADs but his reps also seemed a little laggy... plus every rad differs depending on the timing of the key presses... so I was suspicious because his RADs didn't seem to make much sense, but again nowhere near enough proof that he was modding.


So yeah, ultimately it's WH that looks bad but it would have been the exact same outcome had Boxxx been in any other crew, there simply wasn't proof he was modding.


Also I was worried that if Boxxx's handling.cfg was released then VC would be ruined because I'd imagine a great percentage of stunters would start using it, he claimed to be getting an extra 40ft of height and there's really no visible signs of modding. But I spoke to him and he said he's deleted the handling.cfg and isn't telling anyone how he did it, he also said nobody would figure it out because he spent days and days tweaking it and getting it right also it's that complicated he doubts anyone would figure it out.

[Noah]

So yeah, ultimately it's WH that looks bad but it would have been the exact same outcome had Boxxx been in any other crew, there simply wasn't proof he was modding.

Lemme just say that Boxxx wouldn't have been in DSS with those stunts, trust me.

To WH: Now that Boxxx is gone, would you say the crew is 100% clean or do you still have some suspicion around certain members? No need to name any names.

[Sear]

I think the SA and VC crews are both 100% clean. Every stunt ive seen is at least.

[Brainkiller]

So yeah, ultimately it's WH that looks bad but it would have been the exact same outcome had Boxxx been in any other crew, there simply wasn't proof he was modding.

Lemme just say that Boxxx wouldn't have been in DSS with those stunts, trust me.

To WH: Now that Boxxx is gone, would you say the crew is 100% clean or do you still have some suspicion around certain members? No need to name any names.

So if All(beast) lands a 200ft roof he'll get kicked out of DSS? sure

[Noah]

Beast's stunts have always seemed highly legit and never has there been any sign of modding from him, so if he wants to land a 200ft roof he can be my guest.

[Rainbow]

Seeing 200ft roofs are possible, ofcourse not  >.>

The fact of the matter is Boxxx's stunts don't look modded. You might be suspicious because of the height he gets or the distance, but the actually stunts themselves don't LOOK modded.

Yes they do LOOK modded. Which is not the case with All(beast).

[FELIX]

But I spoke to him and he said he's deleted the handling.cfg and isn't telling anyone how he did it, he also said nobody would figure it out because he spent days and days tweaking it and getting it right also it's that complicated he doubts anyone would figure it out.

I also believe in Santa Clause! 

[Brainkiller]

Beast's stunts have always seemed highly legit and never has there been any sign of modding from him, so if he wants to land a 200ft roof he can be my guest.

And there was never a sign of Boxxx modding, only people like yourself who think "damn that pacerkbump was pretty high, he must have modded"

or like this guy

Seeing 200ft roofs are possible, ofcourse not  >.>

The fact of the matter is Boxxx's stunts don't look modded. You might be suspicious because of the height he gets or the distance, but the actually stunts themselves don't LOOK modded.

Yes they do LOOK modded. Which is not the case with All(beast).

Who's lying to himself that they look modded.

There's no boost, there's no abnormal speed, no abnormal rotation or strange arch.

you just said they look modded, in what sense do they look modded?



Just to clear it up, this is the stance I'm taking:

Boxxx's stunts DO NOT LOOK MODDED, I'm aware they are but I'm saying he covered it up so good there was no way of telling they were modded. YOU are saying there was a way of telling he was modding, you are saying they LOOK modded, if that is the case then you should be able to back that up with proof, eg. a strange boost or weird looking airtime. But you can't do that, because they don't look modded.


Being suspicious of him modding = totally fine
Saying his stunts LOOK modded = you're lying


It just seems like you're trying to put WH down, making it look like we purposely allowed a modder in our videos.


Put it this way, if all(beast) [just using him as an example] had sent Boxxx's replay.rep to Oniros it would have been used in the Oniros.


Anyway I'm done, I don't want to argue about it. It just seems like everyone is taking this opportunity to bust WH's balls as if we did something wrong.

[godson]

I don't mean to be rude with my last comment.. I give you guys much props for taking hours to land really high air stunts and shit.. you guys just have a habit of overhyping your crew videos which is annoying to me, but anyways best of luck with that..... whats ur favorite music album?

[VaNilla]

The fact of the matter is Boxxx's stunts don't look modded. You might be suspicious because of the height he gets or the distance, but the actually stunts themselves don't LOOK modded.

I'm sorry but that's a load of crap

[Noah]

Beast's stunts have always seemed highly legit and never has there been any sign of modding from him, so if he wants to land a 200ft roof he can be my guest.

And there was never a sign of Boxxx modding, only people like yourself who think "damn that pacerkbump was pretty high, he must have modded"

Some of his stunts did infact look modded, which is why I was lead to believe that he modded in the first place. Have you ever seen me call out Eddeman, Odd, Burn, Stevex, Raekwon or Daksad for landing a bigair stunt? I doubt it. It's not like I have an obsessive urge to go "M0DZ!" everytime I see a stunt over 200ft.


@Bluedagger: Jealous.. Hah. What's your IQ again?

[bluedagger]

yep im with bk here, his stunts never looked modded if you think he modded its because you were jealous

[Rainbow]

Seeing 200ft roofs are possible, ofcourse not  >.>

The fact of the matter is Boxxx's stunts don't look modded. You might be suspicious because of the height he gets or the distance, but the actually stunts themselves don't LOOK modded.

Yes they do LOOK modded. Which is not the case with All(beast).

Who's lying to himself that they look modded.

There's no boost, there's no abnormal speed, no abnormal rotation or strange arch.

you just said they look modded, in what sense do they look modded?

I am not lying to myself. There is no strange rotation, point taken. But the rest? 

The arch of his Devour II finisher is unnatural, big time. He never stops rising.
The speedboost he gets from radding a short piece of road is way too big. I've seen more replays of him with his idiotic rads and I am blown away by the fact that only a few said something/noticed something about it. I'll try to dig up those reps from my folders if you want to.
His trinity part 1 finisher, he still gets the 200ft mark with hitting a freaking building and getting a 720. The run-up is way to short to get that height with those conditions. I tried the road myself, and so have many others, its pretty good, but that's just wrong. Don't even start about how unnatural the finisher of part 2 looks.
His Omicron finisher is probably one of the worst though, rising... rising..rising..rising..  And last but not least, his 333ft "World Record". Hell yes, I am totally buying that! Ever wondered by how only one person could achieve a RAD's like that with the exact game set-up? Ever wondered how he probably beats your fastest RAD-time ever every single time?  ... Well, I did. And it all screamed for handling.cfg mods. Nothing more, and just like Tryp. You could spot that without a problem.
Just seeing him move in the game and then seeing 100 others move and drive comepletely different. That suspicion thing is okay, but saying that it looks modded isn't lying. Get over that  (might sound weird coming from the guy that typed this  Because I never got over BoxXx's undeserved fame).

Enough? Or is this no-proof or a good explanation?



Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against WH and most of its members, but some just deliberately fuck it up(Around ..3 of them). And BoxXx was the king himself.
Seeing him fall gave me a smile, I never liked him and never will.  I feel ashamed to carry the same flag. (This may sounds like he just commited a serial murder or smth, its not that serious, but you get the point....)
I totally understand your point about All(beast) (yes, the example). Having a crew-mate and/or friend doing this kind of stuff makes you think anything is possible.

EDIT:// BLUEDAGGER JUST GO AWAY FOR ONCE. I like your attitude and character, but seriously, drop the freaking mods