What were we?

[MisguidedAngel]

Oh lord, I took time away from the precious "New ZS" topic, this automatically means I'm going to be the objext of hatred of some. Give it time ladies.

I just figured I'd ask the dumb question, the "ZS" that stunted in SA Exertion, what the fuck were we?

I see so many people drooling over the fact Barney's stunting again and Bloodhook desided to come back that I just ask, was what was in that video even ZS?

To be honest, one person isn't a fucking crew, get that part through your skulls. The ZS crew was formed by SEVERAL people. To give someone the "right of leadership" over something that hasen't been theres for so long seems idiotic in my view, not that it matters around this place. If that was the case Maxwell could throw .:vERt:. and all its rights at everyone when ever he wished, it was him and a few others who started it, I just ran off with it.

So really if this is the way you all picture it, why not move the Exertion out of the ZS section? I mean, does it deserve to have its name attached to Barney's "Holy Grail" of ZS?

w/e let the words fly.

- Cheers

[Ferσή]

AE left ZS. THEFTman was an inactive turd. Mike333 was basically the leader of the crew at that moment, and he let Barney in. (I think.)  After Atonement (the last ok ZS video even tho THEFTman prlly modded in that)  ZS has been a crew full of controversy and scandal. Now with Barney, Bloodyhook, and Mike333 calling the shots, ZS will not be a crew that is frowned upon by most of GTAS. Barney is arranging something for getting the old videos out of the section and stored somewhere else. Therefore, your precious "Exertion" will be safe, far from the new ZS videos. You should be happy that your crew or your old crew is starting over, or did you like ZS the way it was? Barney is the only person on these forums that can turn ZS around, and you should be kissing his ass for taking ZS under his wing.

To ultimatly answer you question of "what were we". All you guys were was a failed attempt to turn ZS around. Slim and Bobsaget were not loyal members and spit ZS out like a sponge of needles as soon as a different crew opened their doors to them.

[godson]

yup what feron said

[Aries]

Leaders of crews? What the hell, stunting crews about about people who want to make videos as a group, not about.....leadership.....

MA I agree with you in a way, it's weird that Barney came back and then all of a sudden the ZS before just vanished.

Hope this all gets sorted though, ZS rocks.

[Ferσή]

Why do you even care about the "ZS before"? It was just a bunch of modded shit. The true ZS is back.

[Aries]

So MA, Slim, BobSaget and Mike modded.....oh ok that clears things up??

[Ferσή]

No no. I honestly did not think that I would have declare that I wasent making any accusations of modding. I was just talking about the videos THEFTman admited he modded in. Or mabey you were talking about the "ZS before" as the SA and From The Seams ZS that existed for like a month or two.

[Aries]

Sorry for this MSN like convo in the topic.

Feron I meant like....although yes AE and THEFT modded their asses off, there were still people in the crew that didn't mod, and although they have nicely left the crew, due to finding another, quitting or whatever. I still don't think they should just be swept under the carpet like some shaven pubic hair  

That's all, I hope you understand what I meant, and what I think MA meant.

[Daffy]

So MA, Slim, BobSaget and Mike modded.....oh ok that clears things up??

That's a rather lame and stubborn argument... is it really so hard to get that Feron is trying to say that ZS has taken quick turn in a brighter direction?

[Kingjad]

Slim and Bobsaget were not loyal members and spit ZS out like a sponge of needles as soon as a different crew opened their doors to them.

They knocked on the TMS door as if their lives depended on it - obviously they weren't happy in ZS. They approached us and not us to them. They show a lot of enthusiasm and seem very happy with TMS, and we are happy with them.

Back to the general topic itself - Barney has to continually be considered as one of the best (whatever you think of his attitude, he's a talented wee fud). With his reputation he will then be considered 'leader', just like Daffy is considered by a few to lead WH (I do at least). Barney has a past with ZS though so I think that is fitting.

I do NOT think the past of ZS since his time away from them, the bad times too, should be removed. Consider it a constant reminder of the lows the crew had plummeted to.

[deviate]

Okay Feron now you took it too far. Barney and I started the crew some years ago and said he would stay till the end, from as far as I can remember he left me with ZS and what I did with it was fine until my modding incident which in my opinion was "my incident" indeed. Not ZS's fault, not Theftmans fault even though him modding didn't help it was still his decision and his poor choice.

ZS didn't get a modding name, the oh-so-mighty Barney didn't do shit and he doesn't deserve full gratitude for taking ZS back. That's just a selfish act by him, fucking prick.

[Sabotage]

Feron, you blind fucker, ZS has been modding since Revenants.

[Ferσή]

Kingjad I said "opened your doors to them" I dident say that you guys begged for them, they came knocking and you let them in, thats all I ment.

[MisguidedAngel]

oddly I thought Aries said I was modding for a second, weird?

To start, ya Aries knows exactly what I mean, basically everyone is just forgetting that AE and Theftman ever happened. Guess what, they're ZS vets, they lasted longer then Barn, so if anyone has the right to (as a friend of mine put it once) "Swing dick" around ZS its them.

Now as for Feron, you kinda started a fire with me, the fact I was not being ignorant and your reply was fairly disrespectful shows me you want to be shut up, so I'll give it my best shot. Keep in mind I've been gone some time, so I missed out on some MSN bitch fights involved with this garbage, so I'll keep it in my point of view.

- I had one stunt in Exertion, so the word "precious" can be blown right out the door from word go.
- If you didn't like the way ZS was turning out, your a forum member, voice a fucking opinion, christ not like I'm doing it right now or anything?
- What the fuck is a "sponge of needles"?
- People reserve the right to take their own road to different places, you want history? People like AE, Nightkid, ZeroX etc. they were all in .:vERt:. at one point and left when something better came up, in all 3 cases they went to ZS at one point or another. Slim and Bob have that same right and all the more power to them, they at least threw down some wicked stuff for the vid, don't fucking play it up like they never wanted to be in ZS in the first place, cause I'm pretty fucking sure you don't make peoples minds up for them.
- Me, Kiss Barney's "ring" you got ALOT of nerve saying that to me. Keep in mind I put up the time and the money to help get these forums online in the first place, remember back when Andyroo was your lord and savour? Not some lil kid that lives in Australia?
- I joined ZS because know one saw it coming a mile away, lots of people can atest to that remark. Was I really in the crew? Kinda sorta, I did my stunts and gave them to AE, the stunts took me maybe a week in total and thats all the contact I kept with ZS... I never talked to AE or Theft, well no I did, but not for horribly long. Thats a very minute detail tho.
- My claims of "leadership" are ringing true tho, *dramatic voice kicks in* as you can clearly see Ferons only hope for his precious ZS is in Barney, can Barney rise to the occasion? Can he come back from possible months off of stunting and, dare I say, lead ZS to a new era of good?

The answer to all these questions doesn't really matter, what matter's is maybe Barney can jump off his high horse long enough for Feron to play a game of "Suck and Blow" with em.

[Ferσή]

oddly I thought Aries said I was modding for a second, weird?

To start, ya Aries knows exactly what I mean, basically everyone is just forgetting that AE and Theftman ever happened. Guess what, they're ZS vets, they lasted longer then Barn, so if anyone has the right to (as a friend of mine put it once) "Swing dick" around ZS its them.

Now as for Feron, you kinda started a fire with me, the fact I was not being ignorant and your reply was fairly disrespectful shows me you want to be shut up, so I'll give it my best shot. Keep in mind I've been gone some time, so I missed out on some MSN bitch fights involved with this garbage, so I'll keep it in my point of view.

- I had one stunt in Exertion, so the word "precious" can be blown right out the door from word go.
- If you didn't like the way ZS was turning out, your a forum member, voice a fucking opinion, christ not like I'm doing it right now or anything?
- What the fuck is a "sponge of needles"?
- People reserve the right to take their own road to different places, you want history? People like AE, Nightkid, ZeroX etc. they were all in .:vERt:. at one point and left when something better came up, in all 3 cases they went to ZS at one point or another. Slim and Bob have that same right and all the more power to them, they at least threw down some wicked stuff for the vid, don't fucking play it up like they never wanted to be in ZS in the first place, cause I'm pretty fucking sure you don't make peoples minds up for them.
- Me, Kiss Barney's "ring" you got ALOT of nerve saying that to me. Keep in mind I put up the time and the money to help get these forums online in the first place, remember back when Andyroo was your lord and savour? Not some lil kid that lives in Australia?
- I joined ZS because know one saw it coming a mile away, lots of people can atest to that remark. Was I really in the crew? Kinda sorta, I did my stunts and gave them to AE, the stunts took me maybe a week in total and thats all the contact I kept with ZS... I never talked to AE or Theft, well no I did, but not for horribly long. Thats a very minute detail tho.
- My claims of "leadership" are ringing true tho, *dramatic voice kicks in* as you can clearly see Ferons only hope for his precious ZS is in Barney, can Barney rise to the occasion? Can he come back from possible months off of stunting and, dare I say, lead ZS to a new era of good?

The answer to all these questions doesn't really matter, what matter's is maybe Barney can jump off his high horse long enough for Feron to play a game of "Suck and Blow" with em.

You know you should have made a little .wmv named after a Slayer album with all this in it for us to look at instead.
Anyways you cleary think im kissing Barneys ass. Im not, im just trying to support the new ZS. Saying that im kissing Barneys ass is a cheap shot. Just because I havent been in 50+ videos dont mean I worship everyone that has.  I dident mean for you to get offended, im sorry but I wasent trying to be offensive when I posted that.  I mean all I said was the stuff more then half the forums thinks, deal with it man. I dont mean for this to turn into a flame war dude, just trying to help. Sorry.

@AE, I see where your coming from man, but you werent doing anything with ZS. You were leaving just as he did. Mabey for differnt or similair reasons, either way ZS was introuble. Would you of rather had some one with no history in ZS pick up the pieces and turn it into somthing its not? Or the crew just disapering from GTAS completly.