Counterfact

[Stevex]

Really nice video you got here BG, really like those stunts where you used MY collision fixes. However I told you not to release any of those stunts until the mod was publicly release because I suspected that this discussion would occur.

To clear everything up to all of you, I am NOT keeping it for DSS, nor am I only keeping it for those who I'd only like to have it. I gave these collision fixes to DSS so they could betatest it for me and give me feedback. So far thanks to them I have found and fixed approximately 60 bugs, and there are still many to be fixed.

At this point I have seen nothing but bitching about the collisions, none of you even posted like "Nice stunts, where did you get the collision? Can you please share a download link.
I am really having second thoughts about releasing this mod now however, I have used over 60 hours creating this and it's about 60% done I'd say, and I have yet to see any appreciation other than those of DSS.
Nobody whined about Daffy's collision fix in VC, nor about Ralleees in Astral, are the stunts really so hard to enjoy because you don't have access to it? Nobody complained about True Story mapmod not being publicly released either.

For now I don't have the motivation to finish it, BG was mainly my boost to get this done (Big V as well).

Also to all of those who might have gotten their hands on this mod somehow outside of DSS(mainly directed at Rainbow) please do not release any stunts with it.

Also a final note, I must warn you that the current version of the mod is heavily unfriendly to stunting. It has loads of bugs, some roofs that normally have collision don't and MANY invisible walls.

Please finish the .cols, it would really help LC and VC stunting in general. About Daffys VC p2b, he did post them in the topic. Dunno about Ralleees bump tho

[Gavran]

Yeah I probably will finish it eventually, though I need to learn some more moddeling. I know it will help LC stunting alot, but how on Earth will an LC collision fix help VC stunting? 

Didn't know Daffy posted them, but anyways was just trying to make a point, and these are the only occurances I could think off. 

[Stevex]

Yeah I probably will finish it eventually, though I need to learn some more moddeling. I know it will help LC stunting alot, but how on Earth will an LC collision fix help VC stunting? 

Didn't know Daffy posted them, but anyways was just trying to make a point, and these are the only occurances I could think off. 

I meant that they would bring more p2bs to the VC engine 

[Genyus]

And its not like we keep the collisions for ourselves. For example take a look at WH and their stoppie method. The community learned about it 2 years later.

and I blame WH for that equally as much, keeping something secret like that means you take away the fun for everyone but yourself, which is if you ask me fucking retarded. Share and care with the world is what brings everyone good, right?..

Also Gavran you didn't get the point made I guess, everyone is in fact really happy you are making these colls, that's probably the reason everybody wants them and seeing a mod to be so wanted would motivate me a lot (I'd even say it would be the third best mod ever, behind Dannye's SCM and Freeplay). It's just that it almost seemed like it was kept secret for only a few people, but now that you've cleared it up it makes more sense. Sorry for being a bitch earlier.

[Noah]

Oh god the extreme butthurt in this topic is so immense I could feel it from 3 sections away. Yeah we have the .cols thanks to Gavran's supreme work, and no it's not giving us any unfair advantages. If you want to land Hitmans spots then bloody just open up an editor of some sort and fix the cols yourself, like so many others have done in the past.

And hating on Hitman for using it? Really? Really??

[Asaaj]

Yes because Gavran didn't allow him to and he still continued. Wouldn't you be upset aswell if you worked on a Mod and told people not to publish anything with it yet, but they do?

[The Big V]

And its not like we keep the collisions for ourselves. For example take a look at WH and their stoppie method. The community learned about it 2 years later.

and I blame WH for that equally as much, keeping something secret like that means you take away the fun for everyone but yourself, which is if you ask me fucking retarded. Share and care with the world is what brings everyone good, right?..

Oh cmon the mod is not even finished yet. Yeah you are pregnant at the 6th month , but your family wants to see the baby so much. LETS TAKE IT OUT OF THE MOTHER'S VAGINA RIGHT AWAY! No one said we aint releasing the mod, just be patient it is not yet f-i-n-i-s-h-e-d. And as it was already discussed Hitman made a mistake/misunderstood and released some stunts with it. Why you guys wanna flame so much over some collisions? Does that satisfy you in some way or something?

[Named]

Give a stunt to BG, and he will land it, simple haha, good joob guys 

[Genyus]

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You should read the rest of my post