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V Chat & Support / Re: GTA5 Bike Grab is POSSIBLE and easy
« on: July 13, 2014, 05:47:32 AM »
Sir Shuffle_Crown, here's episode 26 of HAS: GTA 5 Funny Moments - Hit A Stunt Episode 26 - (GTA V Online Games Stunts) Enjoy!


(Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've never seen this stunt before :P)

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V Chat & Support / Re: GTA5 Bike Grab is POSSIBLE and easy
« on: July 13, 2014, 04:42:19 AM »
I have another little question. Hitting a stunt that has NEVER been hit before, but based on a stunt "spot" that was found by someone else, is that also copying?

Lets say there are 3 buildings, A, B and C. The closest one is A. After that B, and after that C. If Stunter 1 lands on building A, then stunter 2 lands on building C, is that copying? They did the same stunt 'Spot' but stunter 2 landed a different stunt.

Now I have another question, lets say stunter 1 lands on building C with a bike, then stunter 2 lands on building C with a CAR. Is that also copying? It was a different stunt right? Now what if it's bike first, and then stunter 2 lands it with a boat? IS that also copying?

And 1 more question, let's say stunter 1 lands on building B with a bike, then stunter 2 lands on building B with a air-grab, jump-off, kwebbail (whatevs you like to call it) IS THAT ALSO COPYING?

Lets say all of these examples took place on the exact same stunt spot, however there were different stunts you could do.

I got accused of copying once again, even though I tried my best to come up with an original stunt (not spot, I also never claimed that and in the video I even addressed this)

I landed a air-grab, jump-off, kwebbail (whatevs you like to call it) stunt on a windmill, and someone else did the same stunt spot but landed it while sitting on his bike.

Please stay nice, I'm just asking a question because everyone seems to be contradicting eachother and it also seems that people are just trying to find excuses to blame me of copying. (Penguin and Turttuutuuutu that is)

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V Chat & Support / Re: GTA5 Bike Grab is POSSIBLE and easy
« on: June 30, 2014, 01:54:52 AM »
Dear Vanilla and the whole GTAStunting Community,

This post cought my eye, someone linked it and I'm always happy when people talk about me. In a positive, and in a negative way since that way I can work on improving myself and my life. Thanks for that.

At first I'd like to clear this up, and it seems that I have to say this to pretty much everyone. I'm an "entertainer", YouTube is my fulltime job and I'm really enjoying it. Stunting is a big part of it, but as you can clearly see on my channel I ONLY do let's plays and I don't really have time for Stunt Montages.

Everything I do in my videos is to entertain my fans, to entertain the community. I do funny things, I do silly things and I do stupid things. As you stated later on in your post, I've don a lot of good things for the stunting community because I feel like doing so. I feel that I'm one of the biggest regual GTA 5 Stunter, not claiming to be the best (by FAR) and I'm also not saying I'm the biggest, just saying that I'm kinda big and I do GTA 5 Stunts.

So recently I started doing the jump off, airgrab, bail method stunt thingy. I saw it in your lighthouse stunt and I also did it myself on accident a while back (the airgrab stunt). You said: "Tired of him taking other people's shit and claiming it as his own" I never said that this is my stunt, I also never CLAIMED that I found it. All I did was ask my Kops (I don't like calling them subscribers) what we should call this stunt.

There are a few reason I did this. First of all, I want to get an as close bond as possible with my subs, this is really hard but we mainly do this by giving this names and comming up with silly things people like to talk about. An example is the Epic Effect, Epic Explosion and Do You Even Stunt Bro meme. The second reason was to get people to talk about it. This can be in a good way, this can be in a bad way, but talking about something or someone = promotion. And promotion (doesn't matter if it's good or bad) = gain (in views, subs, money, fame, girls /whatever)

You quote: "You shouldn't name something after yourself if you didn't discover it." I agree, I also never claimed that I did discover it, but as I said earlier, it's just a nickname me and my kops will have. I hope you understand my choice and I hope this won't offend/hurt you too much. (I hope this clears this bit up)

Lets move on.

The Irony bit: I tweeted a few tweets as you can beautifully see over there. I'm glad you took your time to sort them out, but you looked at it with the wrong perspective. I was browsing youtube as I do on a daily basis and I saw pretty much 3-4 youtubers that do the exact same thing as me. Same kind of videos (Funny Moments), with the same titles, same descriptions, same tags. Also some of my Minecraft videos got copied, some of my series got copied and a few more things I don't support.

Now let's move on to your "Stunt Spot Copying". As I've said multiple times in multiple videos, you can't own a stunt. This is ATLEAST how I look at this. I sometimes claim that I've never seen the stunt, because I've genuanly never seen it. I might have seen a variation of the stunt, or someone told me to do his stunt and that is what I do. Let me give you an example. Stunter "A" hits a stunt, he posts it on youtube. Stunter B sees the stunt, does something similar from it (maybe a bit harder), uploads it to youtube and sends it to me. I watch the stunt/stunt-montage and for stunting for dummies or Hit a Stunt decide that I need a stunt. I ask him, if I can hit it and use it in my video and he says he's all cool. Now as I already said, I've never seen the stunt. Of course I've seen stunts that look a lot like them, but then I would be giving lists and lists of credits. But I've NEVER seen someone hit stunt A, and since it's almost the exact same stunt with a few changes then I could say that I've never seen it. HOWEVER I remember this 1 video where I did see the stunt but I said I never saw it, and I'd like to appologise for this. It was just a mistake during the recording, and I couldn't be asked to record it again. However, I never hit that stunt so YEAH.

Lets continue the "Original Founder" dilema. If I'd be to give 1 person credits, and I've done this multiple times. Then I get spammed in the description or on skype that I wasn't the first one to hit it. Even though, I'm 100% sure about the person who hit it the first time, and I give him credits in the video or in the description, even after that I get bashed at in the comments of people "claiming" to be the first one to hit it. I've had this with the Solar Stunting stunt because I thought someone else hit it first since he showed me. I decided that not giving any credits to anyone is the best.

We also create another problem. And that's where I draw the line. Let's say you land on a building, you're the first one and claim to be the first one. Then I hit a stunt that is on the same building, but we came from 2 different directions. Who owns the stunt spot thingy then? Some might say that they landed it first because they own the building or something. And if I'd be to credit someone else then they will get mad, even though they never landed that stunt. Same thing goes for hitting stunts with bikes instead of cars, with boosters and or without boosters, hitting something with a ramp, or without a ramp, hit a stunt while jumping of your bike (whatever you would like to call this) and you can keep on going.

If I claim that person A found the stunt, then person D will show up and tell me he hit a stunt that looked a lot like it. Then after that person K would jump in and claim that he landed it with a bike and it will keep on going like this. I decided that we shouldn't be claiming stunt spots, nor ask for credits. Because all it does is cause drama. I've been in some drama with a stunter a while back. And the whole drama started with him using a spot I showed him. After looking back on it, it was pretty stupid. I like to say: "It's only game, why you heff to be mad."

I hope I cleared this up for you. Lets move on to the "Contradict" part. You showed 2 of my tweets, 1 about copying and then one where I say that I support copying. As I said earlier, the copying thing was about YouTubers stealing WAY more things (in my eyes also more important things) then just a stunt spot. Might have been confusing, but I'd love to give you guys some examples. (In private though)

I'm also happy that you're enjoying my videos. I spend a lot of time making them, and since you're a Kop (Whatever you feel like calling this) I took the time to reply to your post. As you can see I take my job seriouse, and I hope you understand that I don't just ghosts around and screw my fans all the time.

I hope this cleared up everything you said. Feel free to ask me some more questions if you didn't understand something. (I'm Dutch so my English might sick here and there)

I'm also glad that you took your time to write such a nice post about me. It shows that you genguanly follow me and my things, and I'm glad you do! (Also, there was no sarcasm in this whole post. I'm being seriouse for ones)

I'd also like to point out again that I'm a YouTuber/Entertainer. Not someone that does videos every now and then, I actually do 3 a day. I have to create 2 and upload 3, I also  need to manage some more channels I'm helping out at the moment and manage different socialmedia. I simply don't have enough time to do most things, for example finding an original spot and then looking over youtube and asking people if they saw someone else hit the spot. I work atleast 10 hours a day and I wrote this whole post right before the recording. I didn't have breakfast yet and I hope this shows that I actually care about most people.

I'd also like to point out that I do most of these things for the community. If I do a stunt in Hit a stunt then thousands of people replicate the stunt. (I have proof, since I most of the time use goo.gl links to see how many clicks the race gets I created) Stunting after all is something we should have fun at doing. I don't like the whole competitive valvue of it some people create, and I'd rather live in a world where everyone is nice towards eachother and doesn't make it TOO competitive. This is also the reason I started up Vaktik, it's just a community, not a team and we certainly not claim to be the best, and if we do so then that's just a joke.

I'd like everyone to be nice towards eachother and I hope you understand that I can't give everyone credits. The Kwebbail is just a nickname some people could use, if they would like to. (EDIT: Changed a few things, since it was a bit confusing over here)

TLDR; Go read it, I didn't type this for nothing YOU LAZY STUNTER! :D

I'm also open for questions, no idea how this forum works though since this is my first post.

-Kwebbelkop/Kwebbelcop/Co-owner of Vaktik/Jordi/Stunting N00b suck/scrublord

(I'm also dislexic and English isn't my mother toungh, so I'm sorry if I repeated some things or if it looks like it doesn't make any sence)

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