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DV Video Releases / Re: MeetMyMeat - Ocean Of Notion
« on: January 06, 2012, 10:24:13 AM »
I can't take a word you say seriously because you opened a new acount.
Your internet identity is much less important than your conscious, therefore your accusations are invalid.
Not to mention I enjoyed MMM's creative stunts alot more than the big ass air bumps.
I lost the email account that I need to recover my password (cuz that was so friggin long ago), hence I made a new account. I didn't want you to be able to attack my argument based on what you think you know about me, hence I remain anonymous. I never said I didn't appreciate the creative stunts like the mtb/bmx stuff or that I wasn't amazed the first time I saw the video. I just have a problem with how vertical that one bump was. So if you would like to move on, I suggest providing the rep. Oh and if you read my post, I said that I specifically experimented with SACC boosting or whatever you want to call it so that I would be better at spotting it in a video. Just FYI this is the first video I've seen by MMM. I was not taking sides as someone who had a grudge or absolutely loved him. I was only looking for choppy parts of the video followed by an apparent increase in speed because I have very recently been extending my experiments into camming and examining how modded stunts look while editing, and after some editing. Sorry for being so immediate in drawing my conclusion, but I had myself objectively convinced.

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DV Video Releases / Re: MeetMyMeat - Ocean Of Notion
« on: January 06, 2012, 08:05:44 AM »
Genyus is an infinitely bigger modder than Roche and ShadowSniper ever were but no one accused him of modding when he released his best of. This made me realize you kind of have to be a suck-up to survive on GTAS.

I can tell you for sure at least 93% of these stunts are performed without any modification.
I knew I shouldn't have tried to point out every choppy stunt because you would just say it's editing. As for being sure that 93% are NOT modded?? THANK YOU! If there was ever a doubt that ONE PERCENT of the stunts were modded, then I deserve to be heard. I would like to invite you to forget all of the other instances I mentioned, then, and focus hard on 6:15. Nothing anyone says can convince me that isn't modded. And once a modder, always a modder.

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DV Video Releases / Re: MeetMyMeat - Ocean Of Notion
« on: January 05, 2012, 07:49:00 PM »
Hi. I am nobody especially important, just a person that happened to discover the gtastunting forums over 6 years ago during the golden age of SA stunting. I have been inactive on the forums for a few years, but suffice it to say I have seen a great number of stunt videos; enough to know when someone is modding. I have seen modders get caught firsthand, and I've experimented with modding myself so I would be able to better recognize it. However, I have never released a video containing modded stunts and passed it off as unmodded. I will not tell you who I really am, because you would probably use various logical fallacies like saying you've never heard of me to discount what I'm saying instead of addressing the facts. The evidence is all there in the video. I have listed the exact seconds where evidence of modding is visible. I really feel sorry that you need to feed your ego by putting together videos with hacked stunts so you can somehow feel superior and validated by a bunch of noobs that wouldn't know legit (or fake) stunting if they saw it. I'm only doing this because I truly have a love of stunting, and I hate to see this movement hijacked by cheaters who use mods to get popularity. True stunting will always be about finding inspiration from your own creativity, a love of the game, and respect for the community. So, know that the spirit of true stunting will never die. Know that those who came before are still watching. And know that those who earned their respect the old-fashioned way do not like what they see.

1:52-Definitely modded. Obviously used SACC. Tackleberry was able to get away with this kind of thing, but even he got caught and had to admit it. I'll explain exactly what type of modding I'm talking about below. (I'm speaking of tackleberry's bbm from Out of Reach by TMS. Funny how it's always the person editing the video that thinks they can get away with modding...)
1:56-got a little too much air from that, but can't tell if modded or not.
2:40-A tell tale sign of using SACC to alter your trajectory. You seem to freeze for an instant in midair.
3:09-Another example of the subtle extra frames/glitching forward effect from modding directional speed with SACC.
3:48-Crystal clear example of modding. Same story, increasing vertical velocity with SACC. Obviously impossible otherwise.
4:00-I thought this was the only legit stunt in the vid at first, but you clearly jerk forward like you badly tried to edit out the effect I'm talking about from altering your trajectory mid-stunt.
4:07 and 4:10-more than one instance of modding in a single stunt! I applaud your very creative use of mods!
4:44 and 4:46-More of the same. Obvious speed boost out of nowhere then another jerking motion midair.
5:07 and 5:09-You almost did a good enough job editing this one to make it look clean, but I don't believe it is.
5:14-How clever of you, the editor, to cut in the clip when you did. Like, the second after you speed hacked.
6:15-GOD AWFUL. If you did not notice that there was something fishy with this video at this point, then stop calling yourself a stunter. He literally shoots straight up and it looks sketchy as fuck. I don't care if he used RAD's method, there's only one thing that can make an NRG do that, and that is SA Control Center.
6:31-You were in the middle of a spin, and then suddenly you stop spinning just in time to land the grind all clean...Not letting that slip past me.
6:36-no mods this time, just don't think you're the first to do a quadbike grind.
6:43-again, you jerk and move in another direction all in mid air. I'm starting to think the modding will never end.
8:33-What more proof do you need!? Blatantly modded. He just boosts up like a rocket and overshoots the tower by more than enough to be obvious about it.

Don't believe me? watch at 6:15 and 8:33 one more time. There is really no room for arguing. Have a nice day!

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