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General => General Discussion => Computer Talk => Topic started by: Sheep on April 02, 2012, 12:50:35 PM
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edit: More like, I started my order!
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So yeah I made topic back then about good specs for my new computer and now I finally had enough money to order.
Specs:
Motherboard: ASRock AM3/AM3+ AMD880G VGA DDR3 USB3
Processor: AMD FX-4100 4C 3.6G 12M AM3+ 95W BOX
Video card: Gigabyte HD6850 1GB OC PCI-E
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Dual C DDR3 8GB Kit, 1600MHz, 2x4GB, Blue
HDD: WD CAVIAR BLUE 750GB 3.5" SATA3 7.2K 32M
Power: 550W 80+ BRONZE CERTIFIED WIRE
DVD Drive: Sony OPTI 5280S DL DVDRW 24X BLACK SATA
Case: THERMALTAKE V3 BLACX EDITION MID TOWER
~600€
Opinions?
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Video card: Gigabyte HD6850 1GB OC PCI-E? why?
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you really need so much RAM? :rolleyes:
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Video card: Gigabyte HD6850 1GB OC PCI-E? why?
what do you mean why?
you really need so much RAM? :rolleyes:
Sure :mellow:
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The specs are good. I would choose a different video card but that is just me. Also good choice on the RAM. 8GB is not even a lot. Look at the people who get 32GB of it.
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AMD cpu? No, just no :c Intel ALLTHEWAY
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The specs are good. I would choose a different video card but that is just me. Also good choice on the RAM. 8GB is not even a lot. Look at the people who get 32GB of it.
Pretty much people with complexes, who feel the need to compensate in other ways. There's no point of going beyond 4 gb, most modern games/progs/w/e don't use more than 4 gb max, if they use more, then it's probably just vram & not regular memory, so that's pointless.
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Hmh, looks like you prefer some more quality video cards, but I bet this is just fine for me at least being in my first computer.
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AMD cpu? No, just no :c Intel ALLTHEWAY
AMD > Intel
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I see a lot of difference between an AMD and Intel both of my laptops.
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Are they competitive models?
I mean, you could might as well be talking about a century old AMD celeron & a brand new i7 8mb sandy bridge with unlocked hyperthreading.
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The specs are good. I would choose a different video card but that is just me. Also good choice on the RAM. 8GB is not even a lot. Look at the people who get 32GB of it.
Pretty much people with complexes, who feel the need to compensate in other ways. There's no point of going beyond 4 gb, most modern games/progs/w/e don't use more than 4 gb max, if they use more, then it's probably just vram & not regular memory, so that's pointless.
You do need to go above 4gb and even above 8gb for rendering complex lengthy stuff using 3D Software or After Effects.
Also this:
AMD cpu? No, just no :c Intel ALLTHEWAY
AMD > Intel
Also, awesome PC you got there.
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Not really, if you've got patience, that is :P
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If AMD their self dont want to compete against Intel anymore, you know they are no way better than intel when it comes to CPU's, but since you are not really doing any massive gaming AMD is fine for you, not to mention that its cheaper than intel, but still the Faildozer FX-4100 isnt that good, you probably want to go with a Phenom II X4 just to avoid that upgrade in years to come, and ofc to avoid bottle necking with your graphics card, and your card is great for running the latest game, just change the CPU and you are ready to go, AND make sure your powerspply has enough juice for your components
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Some people like AMD, some Intel. I'll stick with AMD alltheway.
and btw i told you to get another GPU. i sayd Nvidia 550GTX Ti.
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Some people like AMD, some Intel. I'll stick with AMD alltheway.
and btw i told you to get another GPU. i sayd Nvidia 550GTX Ti.
are you kidding me ?, the 9850 tears a 550 ti apart, even with if the 550 was overclocked
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Some people like AMD, some Intel. I'll stick with AMD alltheway.
and btw i told you to get another GPU. i sayd Nvidia 550GTX Ti.
I appreciate your help before, but coming from many sources telling me that GTX550 Ti is bad and I suddenly got more budget I went for HD6850. About CPU's, I was going to order Intel but that just too expensive for me. :euro:
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Atleast Nvidia has no problem running games like Ati does. well if it was my pc ordering, i would take 550GTX TI.
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Some people like AMD, some Intel. I'll stick with AMD alltheway.
and btw i told you to get another GPU. i sayd Nvidia 550GTX Ti.
Since when did taking a GPU for him become your decision?
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you really need so much RAM? :rolleyes:
Sure :mellow:
imo you spend unecessary money for that amount of RAM. 4 is enough for sure to normal gaming and working on PC. XP reads only 3,2gb of memory. Win7 32bit 4gb and Win7 64 bit Ultimate 192gb (i guess so). If you thinking about professional video editing, render a lot of things then you're doing it correctly =3
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Yeah, only with 64 bit 99% of programs/games go into the x86 (32 bit) directory anyways, so it's really pointless.
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Atleast Nvidia has no problem running games like Ati does. well if it was my pc ordering, i would take 550GTX TI.
That is the same with every card no matter if it is Nvidia or ATI. Both take a while for their drivers to mature.
For your GPU, if you are not going to play any intense games it will be fine.
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Atleast Nvidia has no problem running games like Ati does. well if it was my pc ordering, i would take 550GTX TI.
That is the same with every card no matter if it is Nvidia or ATI. Both take a while for their drivers to mature.
For your GPU, if you are not going to play any intense games it will be fine.
Intense games ? LOL
My friend got a shitty CPU with GTX550TI and Battlefield 3 settings are ULTRA.
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Battlefield isn't really that demanding, a lot of older games run a lot more choppy than it does. If you want to really test it out, try JC2, especially in the city areas.
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Those who bash AMD really boggle my mind, the HD 6850 is just perfect.
I'm rocking BF3 on High with an HD5770, Athlon II 3ghz dual core and (2x2)4GB Crosair 1333mhz DDR3 RAM :lol:
I also record GTA 4 with high end ENB settings smoothly as seen on my last two videos..
@cheaptea: Main point, if you're going to play at 1080p resolution and high settings this PC will be rock solid at anything you can throw at it that is available right now. The only way this PC is going to struggle if you're trying to run Eyefinity @ ultra settings with 5760x3240 resolution.
Some games might get SLIGHTLY choppy with this PC if you're trying to Fraps, like Crysis 2 @ ULTRA with the official texture pack and DX11. But it'll play just fine if you're not recording.
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^Tell me your battlelog beat :ajaja: Let's see how "rocking" you are :P
Nice set-up btw. Been looking at some diagrams and your PC is by far better then mine. :euro:
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I'm rocking BF3 on High with an HD5770, Athlon II 3ghz dual core and (2x2)4GB Crosair 1333mhz DDR3 RAM :lol:
seriously? :| i can barely run it smoothly on medium settings with my phenom ii 3.20 quad core, 4gbddr3 and gtx550ti. not sure if gtx500ti is really THAT crappy card or something is fucked up with the pc.
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^Tell me your battlelog beat :ajaja: Let's see how "rocking" you are :P
SANIndeed, I'm not really rocking ingame because I'm an objective/team player, so you'll find things like WAY too horrible k/d :lol:.
I'm rocking BF3 on High with an HD5770, Athlon II 3ghz dual core and (2x2)4GB Crosair 1333mhz DDR3 RAM :lol:
seriously? :| i can barely run it smoothly on medium settings with my phenom ii 3.20 quad core, 4gbddr3 and gtx550ti. not sure if gtx500ti is really THAT crappy card or something is fucked up with the pc.
I run it at 35-45fps on high and thats smooth for me to enjoy the looks but not to play multiplayer, so I put everything on low to get 60-70+ fps.
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Atleast Nvidia has no problem running games like Ati does. well if it was my pc ordering, i would take 550GTX TI.
That is the same with every card no matter if it is Nvidia or ATI. Both take a while for their drivers to mature.
For your GPU, if you are not going to play any intense games it will be fine.
Intense games ? LOL
My friend got a shitty CPU with GTX550TI and Battlefield 3 settings are ULTRA.
Oh yeah? And just curious how much FPS is he getting?
And if you want to be such a smartass, is he even running it at 16x and 4 MSAA? Because it doesn't count as "ultra" if he doesn't have it on. And at what resolution too? Doubt he is running it at 1920x1080 or anything higher than 1280.
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He's probably running at 800x640 :lol:
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Actually it's running on 1366x768, fps 35-55 with ULTRA
Example.
Battlefield 3 Ultra Gameplay GTX 550 TI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf248La0jnc#ws)
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How can you play a fast paced reaction fps without stable 30/60 fps? :|
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How can you play a fast paced reaction fps without stable 30/60 fps? :|
Dude, if you want stable fps, then u should get I7, 6GB ram and Geforce GTX680 -.-
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I'm running at 1920x1080 ULTRA at 60 fps.
I was talking about what you said about 35-55 fps, I feel that FPS MMO's are unplayable unless they're stable.
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I'm running at 1920x1080 ULTRA at 60 fps.
I was talking about what you said about 35-55 fps, I feel that FPS MMO's are unplayable unless they're stable.
as i sayd he had shitty cpu
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You're not getting my point :sleep:
I understand why he hasn't got stable fps, but I'm saying that he should go for framerate instead of visuals to actually play competitively, with unstable fps, you're bound to fail.
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And if you want to be such a smartass, is he even running it at 16x and 4 MSAA? Because it doesn't count as "ultra" if he doesn't have it on. And at what resolution too? Doubt he is running it at 1920x1080 or anything higher than 1280.
A thousand times this. I see people claiming they run it at ultra all the time with lots of fps, and then you find out they don't have any AA and play at 1280x720 or something.
Playing at 1920x1080 with everything at ultra and 4xAA + 16AF you're gonna get pretty terrible fps in multiplayer with a GTX550 or any AMD equivalent. Emphasis on the multiplayer because it's a lot harder on the system than singleplayer. For starters you'll run out of vram and have horrible drops with the 1GB cards. I've actually had vram usage over 2GB on some maps.
I've got a Phenom 2 X4 955 (ever so slightly clocked to 3,5ghz), 4 gigs of ram and a 7970 clocked to 1100/1525 (stock 925/1375). Playing with texture and mesh quality at ultra, 4xAA, 16AF and the rest on high, probably seen my fps drop as low as the mid thirties on some maps. I'm pretty much at 95%-100% CPU usage most of the time.
Gonna get myself a Ivy bridge CPU and mobo + a fuckload more ram though, really looking forward to that.
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^ I have pretty much everything maxed out both in-game & in nvidia control panel :happy:
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^ ಠ_ಠ Thou shalt not troll me.
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Damn it :lol:
I've yet to actually buy the game in order to play multiplayer <_<
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It's fun most of the time, specially if you're playing with some people you know. Working together as a squad is a lot of fun, I usually play with Stevex and we do pretty good. He's the worst kill stealer ever when we're flying dual jets though :euro:
Probably sucks a bit at the start with vehicles though, the unlocks makes them a lot better.
On topic: I would have got a Phenom 2 x4 as CPU instead of the FX-4100. Guess they're pretty much out of stock everywhere now though since they stopped manufacturing them a while ago. The 960T from AMD is pretty much the same and you might be able to still find that one. I can potentially be unlocked to 6 cores for some extra juice. Most games probably won't see a difference in performance whether it unlocks or not though.
It should outperform the FX-4100 without being unlocked anyway, as the bulldozer modules aren't as fast when all cores have a heavy load.
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I'm trying to save up for it, 'cause it is tempting from what I've seen.
I'd probably run it at 1600x900 on mp though, 'cause I honestly don't see the difference (despite having a 25 inch monitor), when playing, for example GTA IV or Skyrim, or JC2, yet the framerate goes up significantly.
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Sounds good, I should probably turn some settings down to get a bit more fps tbh :P Running at 60+ fps is just a world of difference to 40-something.
I'd say JC2 is pretty fucking unplayable without a high fps, there's just so much input lag whenever you drop low. Funny thing is I think my fps became worse in that game when I got my new card. Without AA I was at 130 fps out on some island before I turned it on and it dropped to like 40. Probably some driver bug because I probably had better performance on my old HD5870 :lol:
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JC2 has given me enough problems with its AA, I just simply don't bother anymore. Weirdest thing I should note, is that, if I have AA & Vsync both on, my fps gets lmited at 30 fps UNLESS I'm looking straight up or straight down (in which case, it limits to my actual refresh rate), which is totally weird, otherwise it just pretty much destroys my frames, 4x is still playable though.
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I guess you're not getting 60 fps or more when not looking at the sky or the ground then, vsync simply cuts it in half down to 30 so the frames sync even when you have less than 60. I usually never bother with v-sync anymore, I just live with the tearing if I ever get too much fps. I had to turn AA off in JC2 though, the performance hit was just waaaaay too much. It's pretty fast paced though so I don't really stop to get annoyed by the jaggies :P
I wish crossfire didn't suffer from so many strange bugs and microstuttering (honestly I've never tried but crossfire but I've heard the horror stories), would be nice to just get another card to play everything at 60+ fps whatever the settings :P
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On topic: I would have got a Phenom 2 x4 as CPU instead of the FX-4100. Guess they're pretty much out of stock everywhere now though since they stopped manufacturing them a while ago. The 960T from AMD is pretty much the same and you might be able to still find that one. I can potentially be unlocked to 6 cores for some extra juice. Most games probably won't see a difference in performance whether it unlocks or not though.
It should outperform the FX-4100 without being unlocked anyway, as the bulldozer modules aren't as fast when all cores have a heavy load.
If I were you I would get the Phenom II x4 over the FX-4100. The FX here costs around $110 while the Phenom is $125. I would definintely try to save up that extra $15-20 to get the Phenom (unless it is out of stock there.)
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AMD cpu? No, just no :c Intel ALLTHEWAY
AMD > Intel
In a parallel world, maybe.