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GTA Series => Grand Theft Auto - San Andreas => SA World Records => Topic started by: Buzzsaw on July 18, 2005, 12:37:06 PM

Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Buzzsaw on July 18, 2005, 12:37:06 PM
more and more it's being realized that wheelies and stoppies can go on forever and don't require a lot of skill and have become yawners. here's what some have had to say about it in the WR thread recently...

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i got 19min and 21 sec on ps2 and the distance was 6400m or something. it really easy on ps2 coz u can hold a certain angle and with that anglt u wount lose speed and u can keep on going forever, i just fell asleep doing that record and thats why i only got 19min.

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i think i know what you're talking about. i realized last night that you can just accelerate enough to pull up a little and then just hold down and left/right and go in circles, without even holding the gas, and basically do a wheelie forever. i don't know about anyone else but i personally have lost interest in wheelies and stoppies because there's no challenge. you can go on and on forever sometimes, and it's more like a matter of seeing who can tolerate prolonged boredom more than seeing who has the most skill.

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yeah those wheelie records are getting pointless coz there is so many ways to do endless wheelies and stoppies. maybe they should be taken from the record list?? but its not my desicion, just a thought...

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I agree. It's not the same as in VC (although there was a really easy way to wheelies for fucking ever with a faggio at the airport)

They just seem alot easier now with the introduction of SA's changed physics. Height, distance, rotation, flips, etc..... are much more interesting. I'm sure there's other WR's we can come up with too.

feel free to make suggestions for new categories, too. :)
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Free Mike on July 18, 2005, 12:49:09 PM
Meh, I say keep them. They'll just be the records for "who can tolerate prolonged boredom more."

I don't really see how it hurts having them as long as people know that there are ways of cheating the system.  
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Southern Finest on July 18, 2005, 01:22:25 PM
Yeh there nohing but "yawners" as you say. This is a stunting site so itd be only right to have stunting related records.
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: cyrix on July 18, 2005, 01:24:57 PM
Maybe something like highest/furthest air to longest stoppie would be more appropriate.
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Omni on July 18, 2005, 01:26:14 PM
Keep em..some things are easy in life but going out and achieving them is a whole different matter..So its like who can endure the longest.
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: comaboy on July 18, 2005, 01:38:03 PM
yeah, it'll be like the dodo records in gta3
 
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: DeathCobra on July 18, 2005, 01:54:28 PM
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yeah, it'll be like the dodo records in gta3
Man i was good at that.I had such a delicate touch on the dodo
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Sam on July 18, 2005, 01:58:18 PM
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yeah, it'll be like the dodo records in gta3
Man i was good at that.I had such a delicate touch on the dodo
I never even got the Dodo to Staunton Island.  :(

They definitely are a worthless WR. Backwards stoppies are sort of a different story, though. They too, can be prolonged fairly easily, though.
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Tackleberry on July 18, 2005, 02:03:59 PM
Remove them.

 It should be a honour to have a WR, I can´t see any honour in the longest stoppie/wheelie WR.
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Juan on July 18, 2005, 04:49:00 PM
me and Southern Finest talked about it this I while back and we agreed that maybe the circled stoppie should be separated from the straight stoppie, cause really me and him were having a nice time trying to break each others record and here comes along somebody who does that kind of stoppie and totally blows us away, its not fair :( .
They shouldnt be removed but maybe separated or just disqualify circled stoppies cause in my opinion its a glitch.
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Recon77 on July 18, 2005, 05:01:03 PM
i believe its a glitch also.
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Recon77 on July 18, 2005, 05:04:00 PM
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yeah, it'll be like the dodo records in gta3
Man i was good at that.I had such a delicate touch on the dodo
I never even got the Dodo to Staunton Island.  :(

They definitely are a worthless WR. Backwards stoppies are sort of a different story, though. They too, can be prolonged fairly easily, though.
i could get the dodo to the first city and back atleast 5 times before having to land of boardem :D


sry bout double post, thought i hit edit button :S
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: verticalslik on July 18, 2005, 05:15:21 PM
i think they should stay because it still is a WR and its something people can compete over :widesmile: . i know its easy but if they want to spend their time doing wheelies and stoppies, well why not?  
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: kaneda on July 18, 2005, 05:44:28 PM
Then it'll just be something else that gets relegated to the 'it's too easy' basket. I can circle around Grove street in a wheelie for as long as it takes me to break the record, and it's fairly easy...should that be considered a glitch too? It's in the game, it's done without a cheat or mod...it should stand. I think people would get jack of doing it for hours anyway.

People will concern themselves with SA records for a little while, then they just won't bother. I think taking the time to talk over, and separate what constitutes a record and what doesn't is pretty pointless.  
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Kert on July 19, 2005, 04:01:30 AM
i say remove them coz they are pointless.
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: marklund on July 19, 2005, 04:36:58 AM
What the ... Keep them, they are stunts just like the others.
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: ZeroX on July 19, 2005, 04:37:40 AM
Wheelies and stoppies can go on forever in Vice City too and they are easy, but they've stayed in the records. I don't see why it should be any different for SA, its still a record and if someone wants to waste their time to hold the record good for them.
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Omni on July 19, 2005, 08:40:59 AM
This poll seems really stupid to me...surely if 2 people want the record kept then it should be kept because they would want to battle for the record..As 7 (or more) of us think it should stay this topiic is now pointless.

*Scouts for admin*
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Buzzsaw on July 19, 2005, 11:26:19 AM
no, it's not pointless. the purpose is to let people weigh in on the issue. no one said the result of the poll votes is going to determine what actually happens. now you want the topic closed? wtf? just because you disagree doesn't mean you should "scout for admin". <_<
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Buzzsaw on July 20, 2005, 02:10:02 PM
well, i've been thinking about it and someone made a good point earlier- if people enjoy doing wheelies and stoppies then they should be allowed to do it and get recognition for it. it's kinda selfish to say people shouldn't be allowed to get recognition for a record just because some of us don't like it personally. i guess one of the main things that makes the wheelie and stoppie records a pain in the ass is the fact that they're so long, and i personally don't feel like watching a long ass wheelie/stoppie vid. so what i propose is that we keep wheelies/stoppies on the list but require screenshot proof only (just for wheelies and stoppies). if there is a dispute or someone thinks it's suspicious then they can ask for vid proof. but i don't think people should make a big deal out of it, because it's not all that great of an accomplishment either way, imo.

as for dividing the wheelies/stoppies into seperate categories for circles and straight lines, the logic for doing this is the same as that of my desire to put chiliad in a seperate category for distance and rotation. but pretty much everyone didn't like the idea.
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Scorpio on July 20, 2005, 02:20:12 PM
so does that mean the wheelie record will be bumped up to my previos record of 15 min?
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Buzzsaw on July 20, 2005, 02:26:15 PM
if the majority doesn't have a problem with my suggestion and you have a screenshot of it, yes. but i'm gonna give people a chance to respond to what i said before i actually do anything.
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Rage Machine on July 20, 2005, 02:29:46 PM
Why would you get rid of them? :blink:  
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Scorpio on July 20, 2005, 06:22:30 PM
some feel that because there are ways to hold a stoppie/wheelie for long periods of time, it should not be a world record stunt
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Omni on July 20, 2005, 06:29:25 PM
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no, it's not pointless. the purpose is to let people weigh in on the issue. no one said the result of the poll votes is going to determine what actually happens. now you want the topic closed? wtf? just because you disagree doesn't mean you should "scout for admin". <_<
I usually agree with what you say Buzz..but serioualy I know of people who want this to stay, so it should stay..it is not just ME wanting them to stay records cus I would never want to break them myself..but as others enjoy breaking them and want to break them then just cus a few people think there too easy for them or pointless they should be stopped? Thats just stupid.
Title: Should wheelies & stoppies be removed from WRs?
Post by: Buzzsaw on July 20, 2005, 08:11:47 PM
you're simplifying my position and the point of this thread a little too much. the point of the thread was to see what people think about this. my personal position originally was that wheelies/stoppies should be removed because they're boring and there's no challenge. i have thought about it and agree that people shouldn't be denied they're entry on the WR list if they enjoy doing wheelies/stoppies. regardless of what i think, i wasn't gonna take them off the list unless there was at least a 75% vote in favor and no compelling arguments to not change anything. obviously that is not the case. the vote is dead even after 24 votes (not including those who voted "doesn't matter to me") and there are some good arguments against changing things, so at this point i have no intention of taking wheelies/stoppies off the WR list. since people are split on what should be done, i'm proposing a compromise- keep wheelies/stoppies on the list but require screenshot proof only, which will make things much easier.
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