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General => General Discussion => Music => Topic started by: Liviu on November 09, 2008, 01:06:33 PM
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Is it right? Is it wrong? To what extent can you determine what a person is like knowing their musical taste?
I take alot of shit from my close friends by doing this, they say i have predjudice and i do agree a bit with them but also they see how most of the times i'm right. For example someone who listens to britney spears or rhianna definitely lives a flashy , sometimes superficial existance with questionable moral values (ok maybe im taking it too far) whereas someone who listens to indie/rock for example is more laid back and less shallow.
There aren't any set rules and it doesnt say that much about a person's native inteligence or character but i think it reveals quite alot about ones upbringing, lifestyle and values.
discuss
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It's stupid.
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I talked to this guy, we we're okay n shiz. the sec i mentioned that i like slipknot; he called me retard and blocked me.
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People always do this, i like rap and heavy metal and if i mentioned rap people would be like, yo wigga, but if heavy metal they'd be like, fuck you emo.
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Seriously, music taste is starting to be as touchy of a subject as religion nowadays.
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I talked to this guy, we we're okay n shiz. the sec i mentioned that i like slipknot; he called me retard and blocked me.
That was me.
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Of course it isn't right, judging people by music is as bad as judging by religion.
I think your a fgt because you listen to oasis. It's not true, but that's pretty much what your doing, innit?
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Look this isn't complicated at all. You say people who listen to Brittany Spears live a more superficial existence. Maybe that's true. But could it be that superficial people relate to the superficial lyrics that Spears puts out? Music is all about being able to relate. It's not uncommon for entire groups of friends to listen to the same type of music because they are all friends (they can relate to each other and therefore also relate to the type of music they listen to).
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I think a lot of the time it can tell you what kind of person someone is. A lot of the time it cant, too.
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Blah put it really well, it's finding music you can relate. Some people are just more fans of music than others. Some just listen to whatever is popular nowadays. Others dig deeper and find all of those bands that, unfortunately, don't reach the Top 100.. or whatever.
I like to stress the importance of being yourself. I don't think it's really that cool to be listening to whatever is popular unless you really do like it. Relating to the music is crucial for me at times, other times not.
But to discuss the question at hand, no, I think it's wrong. Sure, I think most of the popular music out there today sucks, but then again, those same kids could be saying that stuff about my tunes as well. But, it's just a matter of preference, and really says nothing about the kind of person they are. Beliefs are one thing, but taste is another.
PS - Shouldn't this be in the music section?
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Loud and dynamic music kills dark toughts.
Btw, there are some people that dislike all kinds of music, what does that say about their characters?
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Loud and dynamic music kills dark toughts.
Btw, there are some people that dislike all kinds of music, what does that say about their characters?
I've never met a person who just doesn't like music... That's why music kick ass. Everyone loves it.
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Of course it isn't right, judging people by music is as bad as judging by religion.
I think your a fgt because you listen to oasis. It's not true, but that's pretty much what your doing, innit?
I dont think it's the same thing - regarding the first sentence
As for the second, im not saying you're a faggot or stupid or w/e for listening to metal, i'm saying you wear black band tshirts all the time, hardly ever go out, have a haircut of questionable sexuality etc
i'm not killin anyone here, im just making minor assumptions
Also, this isnt in the music section cause i think it's about people, not music or musicians.
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Of course it isn't right, judging people by music is as bad as judging by religion.
I think your a fgt because you listen to oasis. It's not true, but that's pretty much what your doing, innit?
I dont think it's the same thing - regarding the first sentence
As for the second, im not saying you're a faggot or stupid or w/e for listening to metal, i'm saying you wear black band tshirts all the time, hardly ever go out, have a haircut of questionable sexuality etc
i'm not killin anyone here, im just making minor assumptions
Also, this isnt in the music section cause i think it's about people, not music or musicians.
I don't not go out because I listen to metal That's such a retarded thing to say.
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Judging them can have two different meanings:
1: "You listen to metal, omg you must be a fucking emo gtfo!" I dislike that kind of judging, people can like whatever music/wear whatever clothes they want to, and others shouldn't care at all. If you look for someone with the same taste, go to a concert of a music style you like.
2: "He listens to reggae so he seems like the kind of guy who is chill and can be relaxing to hang out with and smoke some weed." That kind of judging is okay because you don't write someone down negatively on what they like.
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I think he's saying that a lot of people that follow the "metal culture", they're more likely to not go out and socialize.
Just as people who follow a gospel culture, are more likely to go to church, and people who follow an emo culture, are more likely to stay inside as well, or go to an emo circleslit cryfest.
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genyus got what i meant. kinda. sometimes, the other kind works too, as long as you dont take it too far.
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How do I relate to a song with no lyrics...
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The whole thing surrounding listening to metal is pretty stupid. People seem to assume that if someone listens to metal that's all they listen to, which simply isn't the case. I listen to The Clash and Incubus as much as I listen to Slayer or whatever, variety is still possible. And Liviu, don't be so ignorant, I listen to metal (not exclusively) and don't do any of those things. With lots of people music is about image and they listen to whatever music fits in with the image they'd like themselves to portray.
Hardly any of my friends listen to music I listen to, be it metal or just alternative music in general. I consider myself particularly keen on music though, people who aren't as into it will tend to listen to whatever is shoved in front of them, whatever is on the charts etc. Also, in England Indie isn't associated with being less shallow, it's just what everyone listens to who goes for whatever is popular at the time. Most of my friends listen to it though, I don't have any problem with people who do. Discrimination by the music people listen to is just as bad as any kind of blanket judging; it's all wrong.
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I wouldn't say I judge people because of it.. but I might find it stupid if they are repetitive in what they listen to, and they don't explore music to find stuff they like.
f.ex my girlfriend has this one pink floyd album; wish you were here, and it's one of her favorite albums ever.. yet she hasn't even bothered to check out the other albums by pink floyd..
I guess I just like to explore music and find more artists I like
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1. I listen to Disgorge.
2. Doesn't mean I am a psychotic serial killer who lives in a morgue.
2. Truth: I'm a student who has goals and ambition to go to collage/university.
3. Music doesn't shape your fate.
Music is a form of art, a form of expression and emotion which can be different in many ways yet still creative. Painting upon a canvas of silence.
Painting's were never judged the same way people are judged because of music. It's truly saddening.
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1. I listen to Disgorge.
2. Doesn't mean I am a psychotic serial killer who lives in a morgue.
2. Truth: I'm a student who has goals and ambition to go to collage/university.
3. Music doesn't shape your fate.
Music is a form of art, a form of expression and emotion which can be different in many ways yet still creative. Painting upon a canvas of silence.
Painting's were never judged the same way people are judged because of music. It's truly saddening.
Truer words have never been spoken.
Good man.
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I hate this. There were like 15 girls in my life whom I liked alot, and they liked me, but when they found out I am listening to black and death metal, every of them dumped me. Now I have metal-liking gf for like 2 years.
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i like drum n bass death metal grindcore porngrind hip hop rap acoustic indie chiptune dance most music so what could you judge me as..?
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GI JOE : I would tell you are funny and weird
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You can judge people a bit, of course. As there are certain lifestyles that for no real reason go hand in hand with the music, but to judge someone by the music they listen to is a bit dodgy, and you shouldn't do it because although you might get it right 40% of the time, there are still people who don't follow.
I listen to screamo, emo, metal, drum n bass, ska, pop punk, pop, dance, trance.....and I dress like a skater or some form of.....preppy? like brand name jeans and tshirts.
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All I need to do is look at Aries' last name to find out what kinda person he is.
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Lol yeah good one Torque.
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I dunno if this is right but in my school the music taste minds alot. In my school we have like 4 different warzones lol. Techno, Rock, shit, and others . I'm one of the rock guys and it's not really that serious but this sometimes causes fights . for example what music is hardest to create and such stuff, k I'm going offtopic.
I do get judged irl for listening to stuff as slipknot and that kinda offensive hard rock but tbh I don't give a shit what they say.
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warzone?
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A person obviously has social problems if they won't/can't talk to another person and be friends with that person because of what music they like.
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Everyone suck who doesn't listen to the music that I do.
Nah, but still, I really often judge ppl by the music they listen to, but mostly it has some base, I mean that someone who's listening to rock/metal, is (mostly) not that fashion-addicted than some1 who's for example listing to techno. I guess it changes by every country, but I f.ex don't even behave that friendly towards someone who's listening to rap/techno than for a one who listens to the music that I do. I'd call it for "racism", maybe it's a bit strong word for it, but it's also a kind of racism in my opinion.
What do you think?
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I think thats bollocks . Racism? Its hardly racism, discriminating against people on grounds of their race? It's a completely different scenario we have here. And to say you wont act as friendly towards someone who listens to techno is also kind of prejudiced, there is no reason to behave coldly just because they listen to techno, which you don't like.
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What am I if i listen to dnb liv?
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A person obviously has social problems if they won't/can't talk to another person and be friends with that person because of what music they like.
Me and Sam are good examples tbh. We're good friends, and he likes that GRIME shit
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I listen to everything i want to i find it ridicolous that people judge people by their music taste . A hip hop dude can also be a good friend ... >_<
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I listen to everything i want to i find it ridicolous that people judge people by their music taste . A hip hop dude can also be a good friend ... >_<
sup dawg you feel me ?
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In these days my friends are ignoring me just becausei love metal, and they are listening to those hip-hop songs.
The point is that i dont give a shit to what they listen and never cristisise the songs they listen, and they do. But the i wouldnt care if it was talking shit about heavy metal/melodic metal/ and so on, they are just ignoring me in these days
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Everyone suck who doesn't listen to the music that I do.
Nah, but still, I really often judge ppl by the music they listen to, but mostly it has some base, I mean that someone who's listening to rock/metal, is (mostly) not that fashion-addicted than some1 who's for example listing to techno. I guess it changes by every country, but I f.ex don't even behave that friendly towards someone who's listening to rap/techno than for a one who listens to the music that I do. I'd call it for "racism", maybe it's a bit strong word for it, but it's also a kind of racism in my opinion.
What do you think?
Techno and fashion...? I'm having problems making the connection.
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okay guys...it sucks...but really it does. youre older than me, at my age ppl are much different from you.
and about the fashion thing. all the techno listeners wear the most fashionable shit (Retro, DG etc). I told it my last post that i know about these things only HERE at hungary and not in your country,
i won lol
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What am I if i listen to dnb liv?
ice cold
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I think people can be juged because of the music it listens... because it's of the person personality...
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you should probably read the thread lololololol
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I listen to different music since i feel that different kind's of music brings different emotions, or make emotions stronger, therefor i listen to different music to have different emotions, in that was music affect's me..
I have witnessed that some of the pop-children label me as a weirdo because of me listening to stuff that isnt played on mtv or the radio..But when your dumb enough to judge people by their music, i really dont wanna hang out with them anyway..
Transmission over! XD
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warzone?
Believe it or not but yeah, a warzone
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Your school sounds like fun.
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Judging people by the music they listen to, is reallly stupid. Sometime's I listen to like...Killswitch Engage, then anout a minute later Oasis. It's all about what you enjoy. I can listen to most types of music and like them. I will have tendancies to be friendlier to someone who listens to like rock, but then it's easier to talk to them.
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I also listen mostly every genre out there (yes sweet, sometimes i enjoy some heavy stuff) so i feel i can relate to everyone. I was thinkin about people who are dedicated to just 1 genre when i made this topic. More to the point, the faggots who listen to minimal and do the tecktonick dance :gay:
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Well, I learn in a class with full of assholes who hate metal, so once I was listening to Judas and one dumbass came up, took my headphones and started to listen to it, ( It was Painkiller, the intro) so he started screaming and saying shit like : Oh my god you satanist or shit like that and "OMFG you wear only black wtf with you and etc etc, after that all the class started to hate me.
I didn't gave a shit, because i hang out with people that ONLY love metal.
In this world, people like to judge people only because of their taste of music.
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well, israel is hardly normal, is it?
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Well, no there is a lot of true metal heads in a place called "Tel Aviv" but it's a pain in the ass to get there.
Israel is pretty much ok, if you have friends that supports you.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91ayVevmnOE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91ayVevmnOE)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EyI4p0yjDQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EyI4p0yjDQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osJCO-QeYZU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osJCO-QeYZU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erc40wCxRZo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erc40wCxRZo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWGc5v0v0Oo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWGc5v0v0Oo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwdjdWIdwMM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwdjdWIdwMM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9li1hBii5_g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9li1hBii5_g)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zENtEumtyBI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zENtEumtyBI)
Just about every genre I like is shown in these 8 songs.
Judge me!
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Coming from an avid lover and junkie for music, judging people by the music they listen to is pretty stupid.
Granted, most ICP fans I've met are complete fucking tools, and most people who say they listen to emo music don't even know what emo stands for, and most people who listen to Disturbed are fucking douchebags, but that's beside the point.
I listen to everything from classical to classic rock, old skool hip hop to trip hop, death metal to black metal, punk rock to electronica, rave, indie, industrial, shock rock...
If you can put me in a category...well then good for you. Cuz I don't seem to fit in any.
See what I mean? I wear minor threat shirts and tiger army patches on leather jackets with big american flags upside down with "NATION OF SHEEP" written along them in big white letters, so one would call me a punk and probably a conspiracy theorist...but I listen to a ton of different shit.
The music you listen to doesn't define your personality, matter of fact, your personality defines the music you listen to.
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Truly you cannot, I think the only time you can base a persons attitude on the music they listen is when they are young and music is kinda the driving force, but even then its skecthy, best not to judge people at all..
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best not to judge people at all..
words to live by.
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i listen mostly metal gothic and hiphop
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I judge people by the stupid shit that comes out
Lots of stupid shit = idiot
less stupid shit = acceptable
no stupid shit = good
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Thats pretty fair heh. I try not to judge people at all but sometimes I catch myself doing it for that reason, I hear an unbelievably stupid remark and instantly lose all respect for them and judge them as douchebags.....and they are.. lol
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I only like sigur ros from your list lol, the pendulum song sucks. and if I hear one more modest mouse song im going to kill someone
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you can judge people by what they listen to. people who listen to reggae smoke a lot of weed, people who listen to grind and death metal are not crybabies, people who listen to trance and things like that are into psy-drugs, people who listen to classic music are cultural and so on.... however, if you take one specific person, who listens to hardcore, for example, you can't tell that he likes to drink and fight. but the probability of that would be higher than if he listens to britney.
so it's like you can tell that italians love pasta but there are also some per cent of those who don't, so if you meet a person and the only thing you know about him is that he is italian, you won't be able to determine if he likes pasta or not.
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I only like sigur ros from your list lol, the pendulum song sucks (In your opinion). and if I hear one more modest mouse song im going to kill someone
Well I'll have a heart attack if I listen to any more megadeth
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I judge people by the stupid shit that comes out
Lots of stupid shit = idiot
less stupid shit = acceptable
no stupid shit = good
more words to live by.
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First person to bring up Coulmbine get a cookie.
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You just did?
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Exactly. NOM NOM NOM.
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First person to bring up Coulmbine get a cookie.
Of course no one brought up Coulmbine. That\'s a non-existent word!
However, it reminds me of what happened at Columbine...
Man I am on a roll today.
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Yeah, sorry, It's not in history books yet, so I havn't exactly studied the stupid mother fuckers. It's a damn shame that it isn't.
Columbine: Metal detectors in school since [insert year here]
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Screaming hard rock is just so FAIL.
I hope all CD's will burn in .. downstairs, but that's just my option
I think that peoples which listen to this is pretty aggressive and angry in some way.
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nah they're nice happy kids who just like to listen to songs about fetus impalement. It's art bro!
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Granted, most ICP fans I've met are complete fucking tools, and most people who say they listen to emo music don't even know what emo stands for, and most people who listen to Disturbed are fucking douchebags, but that's beside the point.
Your literally one of them idiots that most of us are talking about. I'm sure everyone would agree you've just categorized people on what music they listen to.
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It just sounds like shit, how musical is to hear a male screaming as hard as he can?
It's just ridiculous, pathetic.
Trying to sound like a big ape or something.
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It shows emotion, anger and pain I guess, much like other music shows other emotions. You might not like it, but evidently other people do, you dont need to like it, just understand other people do, and you shouldn't question them on it.
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Well said Aries.
Personally, I see all of music as art, but just like paintings, you won't always like everything you see, or in this case, hear. People make what they like, and I think that's more important than actually making what's working for you. The way I see it, it's their band, not the world's.
And if screaming is what they like to do, let them scream.
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Screaming hard rock is just so FAIL.
I hope all CD's will burn in .. downstairs, but that's just my option
I think that peoples which listen to this is pretty aggressive and angry in some way.
and evidenced by your posts, I think your religious. Would I be wrong?
I respect your opinion, even if it IS totally wrong.
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Screaming hard rock is just so FAIL.
I hope all CD's will burn in .. downstairs, but that's just my option
I think that peoples which listen to this is pretty aggressive and angry in some way.
and evidenced by your posts, I think your religious. Would I be wrong?
I respect your opinion, even if it IS totally wrong.
why?
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Dismissing an entire genre of music is fail, am i right?
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I dismiss all metal(death metal, hard metal, alt metal, all) because all the metal i've heard doesn't sound good to me.
it's fail for me, maybe not for other people
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Yes, but he thinks that no one should listen to it... I'm pretty sure that's what he's saying. and it's pretty retarded imo
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMTeytJeSp8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMTeytJeSp8)
stuck in my head
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Personally when I listen to death metal I get thoughts of aggression.
perhaps it's because it feels like a drill to my head
Maybe Yum is more ignorant than his is uneducated?
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Pardon me if I misinterpreted, but Brandon; are you saying because one genre of metal sucks means all do?
Correct me if I'm wrong, please.
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Yeah, you're wrong.
I dismiss all metal(death metal, hard metal, alt metal, all) because all the metal i've heard doesn't sound good to me.
I specifically named a couple subcategories of metal. I cant think of any others but I've heard songs that I didn't like that don't fit in those categories.
Metal just isn't my cup of tea, sorry rocka.
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if you want to be liked by x-ers and metals
listen to x-core.
put genre of music in 'x' place.
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Respecting each others opinion is fine and all but you don't even have to do that. You just have to realize how fucking retarded it is to argue over genre's of music.
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Yeah, you're wrong.
I dismiss all metal(death metal, hard metal, alt metal, all) because all the metal i've heard doesn't sound good to me.
I specifically named a couple subcategories of metal. I cant think of any others but I've heard songs that I didn't like that don't fit in those categories.
Metal just isn't my cup of tea, sorry rocka.
I'm not against you for not liking it, I was just trying to set something straight. Don't get all hyped up about it, it was just a question.
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I respect your opinion brandon, but if I cared enough I could probably find some metal you would like
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your first mistake was judging someone
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I have a taste in all genres of music. I win.
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i'm not killin anyone here, im just making minor assumptions
This general behavior is where everyone get's into major trouble. Ever heard of the phrase, "To assume, means you're making an ass out of 'you' and me"?
When people jump to conclusions before actually seeing the case, that's where misunderstandings arise. That's where unnecessary conflict can lead to major disjunction between two or more people. The reason people are so stupid these days, and this is not saying people here are being stupid, just that stupidity in general spawns from using stereotypical generalizations to apply labels to the environment around them.
Just because someone listens to heavy metal or scream core does not necessarily mean they play the part of a tight pants, ear gouged, two-stepping roughneck. What's even worse is we immediately think of those three generalizations once we come in contact with the terms "heavy metal" and "scream core", because that's the erroneous impression that society in general has made. Actually even surmising the "tight pants, ear gouged, two-stepping" part of my topic sentence is wrong for me to say.
Pretty much it is wrong to start judging people by their face value, be it music, be it the clothes they wear, whatever is superficial. You never really know what they're about until you really get to know them. Truth is the hardest entity to discern, and general impressions do very well to cloud our judgment.
The ironic part is when someone is actually judging someone based on superficial identity, they themselves are being superficial because at that immediate moment of judgment, what is it that the judge concentrates on? That's right, the superficial aspects that seem to suggest what type of person their seeing. In my book, it is absolutely wrong for someone to form even the slightest opinion without first knowing all the facts, or at least clearing up their vision. Only then, when you really know someone can you call them what they really are, but you can't assume something someway means exactly the same thing all the time.
Is it wrong to judge people by their music? Absolutely.
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