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Title: Burying USS
Post by: Mythic on May 21, 2008, 01:08:49 PM
Edit: Seems like people doesn't want to read the whole post, so I say it: Nothing has been done yet, this is just an view of my opinions.

You people have noticed that there's not much activity on USS. Yes, we are making a crew video currently, but sending few stunts to another member once a month can't be called as an activity. There's no crew conversations, since there's only three active members; me, Maca and godson. Most likely there's no more than two of us online at the same time.

I accepted USS's invitation because I though I could make something good to this crew. I wasn't sure about it, but I took the change to try it. Stunting and making videos are the things that people can see in the crew from outside, but I hope there would be something inside the crew too, but I was a little dissapointed; I though that Xtramus was more active and would care more about his crew (He's the one I see as a leader).

I have noticed that Maca and godson doesn't feel very good in this crew (godson hasn't said it though, Maca has). At least I wouldn't like to continue this, as it's like a talking with a random guys once within few weeks. I guess we are just taking advantage of the name, since it has a long history and is very known.

I can see two things that I rate as a good (which is why I came to here, and I will fill my promise): Either finishing USS, which would be better in my eyes. It's better take one of the first crews to it's finish line than letting it bleed without any activity, untill one day it just gets forgotten, and the whole section deleted.

So my suggest is that USS makes one final video, and then it will be finished without any shit in it's head. If wanted, godson and Maca can make a new crew (if that's the point in being USS), but I will not be in it.


I based this on my own opinions and by a little reading of the Ask USS topic. I think this would be best to the crew. This may not affect on anything if other members doesn't decide to support me. Im not the one who decides about this, but one thing I know: USS will not raise again.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Hoff on May 21, 2008, 01:12:03 PM
Quite sad to hear, but I guess we all saw it coming...
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Cdarmy on May 21, 2008, 01:13:01 PM
I didnt read it but i say bury
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Mythic on May 21, 2008, 01:13:58 PM
Nothing has been done yet, just for those who doesn't want to read it.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: FIGHTER on May 21, 2008, 01:14:31 PM
accept me as member  XD
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Domovla on May 21, 2008, 01:15:56 PM
nah.. i see some good ppl wanna join uss.. just try and wait a lil bit longer dude.. ur only in uss for a week i guess
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Mythic on May 21, 2008, 01:18:55 PM
Yes, tell me how it matters to this. I can see only people from 07 joining USS, makes me sound stupid but it just doesn't work like that. Crew needs veteran to be run by, which Xtramus would do perfectly. Don't blame him though, he is busy with life, like we are all at some stage.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: FIGHTER on May 21, 2008, 01:19:36 PM
I stunt since 04 and im registered here since 06
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Mythic on May 21, 2008, 01:21:25 PM
That's not really the point, but what ever. Read the post, it says im not the one who decides about this, it's just an opinion.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Domovla on May 21, 2008, 01:21:56 PM
yea, fighter in uss ftw...
Title: Burying USS
Post by: FIGHTER on May 21, 2008, 01:23:49 PM
just like I search for a long time a crew and what happens? its going down/dead
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Mythic on May 21, 2008, 01:27:26 PM
We could let this crew be under pressure by being runned by people like there's now going to join, but you know that it would just be under pressure, as I said. It would work for a few months, but really, it is best thing to finish it before its too late and Xtramus and CJD leaves, then it's officially dead I guess.

To make it clear, I don't want this to die. I don't want this to be unactive, I joined here to have fun. But it's just something that never happened, and it's right thing to do to finish a good old crew before it's too late. I can't see a picture in my head where USS is being leaded by new guys and just taking advantage of the name and history. You can always make a new one.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Domovla on May 21, 2008, 01:29:27 PM
u say ur were trying to do something good with this crew, but ur giving up after a week
Title: Burying USS
Post by: FIGHTER on May 21, 2008, 01:29:50 PM
but look dude:
I see a great stunter in u, like creativity and more...
godson is a great guy and Maca also.....
Domovla? he also want to join this crew....just like a saw alot of nice entry's of him in the GTASL....
and myself? i cant speak for my self but I like the guys who are in atm...U,Mace and Godson...and Xtramus and CJD are also great
Title: Burying USS
Post by: KillaMarci on May 21, 2008, 01:40:43 PM
Just rename the crew and get some new members and it should be fine
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Mythic on May 21, 2008, 01:42:55 PM
That's something I wouldn't enjoy, and I would probably leave.

I would like to see some opinions by members, who has been here for a longer time.

@Domovla

Please don't start that, I wouldn't like to use any bad language in this topic, but just... Just read the first post!

@KillaMarci

Why not to make a new one?
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Cdarmy on May 21, 2008, 01:43:21 PM
Are you kidding, Mace Godson and CJD are fucking noobs!

No offence tough.. I really love them except for Godson
Title: Burying USS
Post by: KillaMarci on May 21, 2008, 01:45:07 PM
Yea making a new one , thats what i meant basically
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Mythic on May 21, 2008, 01:45:09 PM
@Cdarmy

Don't say it that way, please.

@KillaMarci

Yes, it would be better than ruining (that's what I can see if it would be after even godson and Maca leaving) one of the olders crews.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: FIGHTER on May 21, 2008, 01:50:49 PM
1 question why do u think everyone is gonna leave it?
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Mythic on May 21, 2008, 01:55:45 PM
Xtramus has basically already done it, just haven't left the crew. After there's more noobs joining it, he will do it. Then he will hope that it would get finished nicely, not being raped by some people who doesn't been here for long and people that he doesn't respect or even know. Same applies to other members I think, but let's wait for them to post in this.

Im not talking by the crew, im talking by myself. Still, im not the one who desides about this, but you can expect me leaving if this crew gets continued by forcing it to it.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: FIGHTER on May 21, 2008, 02:00:31 PM
nah I think Domovla isnt a noob in stunting and I just can find some nice ones
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Godfather on May 21, 2008, 02:01:29 PM
Im really sorry for USS, you guys have been my favorite crew on GTAS since I first joined, yeah, mainly cause the name was the absolutely coolest around, but still.

However, I don't think you guys should continue if you don't feel happy around eachother. Because, tbh a crew isn't really a crew if you never communicate other than whilst sending a .rar on MSN. I don't know how many crews had said it before, but having crew convos, just wobbling around is the main reason we're staying and actually like being with these guys. I'd leave GLS within a minute if everyone stopped using MSN to bladder bullshit with me. Then it just wouldn't be fun, cause I'm really not the one who likes to keep in touch with PM's or on our forum.

Whatever goes through your minds, I support it. I vote Mythic for leader.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Mythic on May 21, 2008, 02:04:19 PM
@FIGHTER

It's not about one single stunter being joined, it's that when it starts, then there's more people coming, and just taking the crew to themselves. And by the way, you're not in the crew. Sounds like you're talking so... Though I have nothing against you, just to let you know.

@Godfather

Thanks for your support, but seems like there's no veterans wanting to join us, but let's see how things are going.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Genyus on May 21, 2008, 02:12:32 PM
Edit: Nvm.
Edit 2: I don't get whats wrong with non-veterans / known members joining crews. Dan, MMM and Busto joined XSA and everyone starts: This is not the XSA I know. Then wtf is it? ASX? I mean it's just the same crew with new members. Should a crew stay with the same lineup for years? That makes no sense. Seriously, crews don't only need veteran / well known people to be good.

Rofl just noticed: 1337 posts.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Mythic on May 21, 2008, 02:15:19 PM
There's no official leader, though I wouldn't like to because im sticking with my opinion, and by that this crew doesn't live for too long anymore, but it's not for me to decide.

To your edit2: Im just thinking what's best to the crew, I though it'd be better to let go of this than just letting more people in, but whatever then.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: SnowMan on May 21, 2008, 02:34:01 PM
another great crew is going down :/
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Godfather on May 21, 2008, 02:38:12 PM
Quote from: Genyus
Edit: Nvm.
Edit 2: I don't get whats wrong with non-veterans / known members joining crews. Dan, MMM and Busto joined XSA and everyone starts: This is not the XSA I know. Then wtf is it? ASX? I mean it's just the same crew with new members. Should a crew stay with the same lineup for years? That makes no sense. Seriously, crews don't only need veteran / well known people to be good.

Rofl just noticed: 1337 posts.
With XSA (and many other classic crews), you have built up an sort of template for how the lineup shall look. I mean, I just hate that Kr3mlin is in TMS cause thats so not what Im used to. I know, not my crew, I shouldn't give a fuck. Just light a joint and enjoy the videos, but I still do for some reason.

And SnowMan, you've been here for a time now, and you should really start being constructive.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: UtterGarbage on May 21, 2008, 03:09:01 PM
you guys are thinking, well mythic is thinking smart. basically this is just like joinign a random collAB with two other dudes. and one thing and i speak for many others when i say this myself is that we dont see or feel any chemistry. lIke for example go into teh ask at or ask tms threads, they know os much about each other, you cna tell they really just love being together. and they belong together. you guys err....
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Skull on May 21, 2008, 03:30:45 PM
Lol, we should have a funeral, hang in there!
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Susp3ct on May 21, 2008, 03:33:38 PM
Predictable...

If USS is gonna be dead, why not replacing it with US' section.

C'mon... It's just one "S" on everything
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Ocean on May 21, 2008, 03:38:37 PM
I haven't been around long enough to see USS's good days, but I wish I had.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Caio on May 21, 2008, 04:30:43 PM
Stop complaining, get new cool and good members AND MAKE VIDEOS !
Title: Burying USS
Post by: godson on May 21, 2008, 05:34:38 PM
Well I guess its a alright idea its really emotional in a way for me to see USS die like this, When I first joined It was kinda fun having to talk to Xtramus he showed me alot of spots that guys is frickin creative, and CJD pretty funny dude if you talk to him on msn I havn't spoken to him much now..Anyways I have been thinking about leaving stunting I've just been doing somewhat of other things kinda..I will guarantee you I will be in the next crew vid though  Next and last crew vid..
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Macsta on May 21, 2008, 05:39:23 PM
Godson, we dont have to die, we can try to keep this going. Get on MSN, we can discuss all this, it might all be ok
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Jay on May 21, 2008, 07:15:43 PM
Im with Donfikeegd
Crews don`t just die because your losing members
Don`t just wait for people to come to you and audition
Go recruit people
And don`t just go for the most well known stunters
Go on future potential and invite someone who is a promissing stunter
Just because crew vids arint coming out doesn`t mean it`s dead
Make solo`s of your own
And btw Maca i told you a while ago that i would help if you needed it
Just ask dude  
Anyways good luck
And don`t give up!!!!!!
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Ocean on May 21, 2008, 07:20:51 PM
Seriously, merge.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: godson on May 21, 2008, 07:24:46 PM
Quote from: Ocean
Seriously, merge.
With?
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Macsta on May 21, 2008, 08:16:54 PM
Quote from: cola
Im with Donfikeegd
Crews don`t just die because your losing members
Don`t just wait for people to come to you and audition
Go recruit people
And don`t just go for the most well known stunters
Go on future potential and invite someone who is a promissing stunter
Just because crew vids arint coming out doesn`t mean it`s dead
Make solo`s of your own
And btw Maca i told you a while ago that i would help if you needed it
Just ask dude  
Anyways good luck
And don`t give up!!!!!!
Thank you Cola. I dont think we are dead either. We just need to get to know each other more  Btw, thanks for supporting me, by helping me  btw i am working on a fun solo atm.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Daffy on May 21, 2008, 08:50:08 PM
Go on a recruiting spree, after 2 good crew videos most of us would be familiar with the new USS.
You can't bring back something that's gone but when it is in fact gone you should use that chance to make something new and better out of it instead of trying to resurrect what once was.
Fighter is interested in joining you guys who has become a pretty sick stunter as of lately.
You have a new logo, a whole new image, get a couple of new guys with potential and you should be fine.
It won't be the USS we used to know but a USS that we would like to get to know.
Get off your ass and rebuild instead of making these depressing speeches.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Mythic on May 21, 2008, 09:10:02 PM
It's not really our thing to just PM random people, but I guess we can try this then. Please notice that darkyy even made a topic to recruit people, but it didn't make any change.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Daffy on May 21, 2008, 09:36:45 PM
You gotta approach people individually with a positive and encouraging little speech, trust me... i know this.
That way you make them feel special when you come to them and you get to pick who you wanna recruit instead of just waiting to see who raises their hand.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Kingjad on May 21, 2008, 10:23:15 PM
If (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3AJqESdw7xs)

I will not allow USS to cease to be. One man does not make a crew, and as long as USS keep alive the spirit that made USS different from the other crews then they will remain USS. Do not take your positions in the crew lightly. Do not feel burdened as a crew member, rather feel honoured to have the opportunity to turn things around and once again be on the up. There is potential, lots of it, but what is needed now is committment, dedication, desire.

Make the most of what you have now.

Work hard to improve.

Show desire to want to get out of that hole.

Carpe Diem.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Macsta on May 21, 2008, 10:26:46 PM
We are doing that as we type  We have some things up our sleeves
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Emperatris on May 21, 2008, 10:48:08 PM
Hmm.. How bout joining USS.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Kingjad on May 21, 2008, 10:57:27 PM
Quote from: Emperatris
Hmm.. How bout joining USS.
I tried, but it never happened and I'm now glued to TMS

Was waiting for a decision from X to see whether I was in or not, was waiting more and more and more. Finally I said I needed to know, if I don't find out by a certain period, I withdraw my interest. I never heard back from X, so I withdrew interest.

Then I found out X was basically retiring and he thought he should not have a part in any crew decisions seeing as he isn't really active within the crew anymore, or GTAS for that matter, due to real life. I had already withdrew my interest so stuck by it.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: HeX on May 21, 2008, 11:23:07 PM
Quote from: Daffy
Go on a recruiting spree, after 2 good crew videos most of us would be familiar with the new USS.
You can't bring back something that's gone but when it is in fact gone you should use that chance to make something new and better out of it instead of trying to resurrect what once was.
Fighter is interested in joining you guys who has become a pretty sick stunter as of lately.
You have a new logo, a whole new image, get a couple of new guys with potential and you should be fine.
It won't be the USS we used to know but a USS that we would like to get to know.
Get off your ass and rebuild instead of making these depressing speeches.
I totally agree with Daffy here. What you need to do is see who is a descent stunter invite the on MSN have a chat with them get to now them then ask if they would like to join. SIMPLE!!!
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Brulla on May 22, 2008, 06:13:19 AM
Have you guys even tried to get in touch with Xtramus? I mean really tried. All I've been hearing is that "it's his loss if he doesn't want to hang around". And ending the crew should be totally up to Xtramus, not the guys who have been in USS for only a couple of months.

And to reply to what Daffy posted...

It just wouldn't be USS if they would (well, they did) take in a lot of random people. They are only exploiting the name and the section. Without Xtramus being active or atleast picking the new members, it just isn't USS.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: HeX on May 22, 2008, 06:17:28 AM
Not random people but people they know or now have been around for a while and Know that are decent and arent currently in a crew.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Ocean on May 22, 2008, 06:17:58 AM
Brulla, crews are going to change no matter what. Its either that, or they die out, which no one really likes.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Darkyy on May 22, 2008, 06:30:17 AM
Quote from: Brulla
Have you guys even tried to get in touch with Xtramus? I mean really tried. All I've been hearing is that "it's his loss if he doesn't want to hang around". And ending the crew should be totally up to Xtramus, not the guys who have been in USS for only a couple of months.

And to reply to what Daffy posted...

It just wouldn't be USS if they would (well, they did) take in a lot of random people. They are only exploiting the name and the section. Without Xtramus being active or atleast picking the new members, it just isn't USS.
And you have you just tried ? When I was in USS, I don't even remember the number of times I tried to speak to X over msn without even getting a Hi, the PMs are useless he doesn't respond, he put his activity status set to private now and he hasn't posted in the USS section for months as far as I know.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Kingjad on May 22, 2008, 06:35:50 AM
Brulla: I tried like crazy to contact Xtramus, but face the facts - not only is he inactive, he's admitted this as well, he's said because of that he doesn't feel he should make any crew-related decisions anymore. But I'll repeat, one person does not make a crew. A crew cannot afford to survive if it is only dependant on 1 person.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Brulla on May 22, 2008, 06:36:01 AM
Quote from: HeX
Not random people but people they know or now have been around for a while and Know that are decent and arent currently in a crew.

Exactly my point. People who the new members know and choose.

Quote from: Ocean
Brulla, crews are going to change no matter what. Its either that, or they die out, which no one really likes.

Of course they are. But they aren't the crews they first were when 90% of the original(ish) members are gone. In this case, seems like only CJD is the last original-ish USS member left. And we all know he ain't that active either.

New people should just start their own crews and create their own traditions. It's just wrong to "hijack" an older, famous crew like this.
Title: Burying USS
Post by: Samurai on May 22, 2008, 12:56:39 PM
Why not just make a fresh new crew. Everything would be nice and fresh, and you would have alot of things just established because of that......seems sad to see USS just being tagged onto to something completely different. I mean i'm sure the benefits of already having a crew section is nice and all, but what are other reasons, GOOD reasons for continuing under this tag?

gl in whatever happens.
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