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GTAStunting Leagues => Past Stunt Leagues => GTAStunting League - Vice City => GTASL 4 => Topic started by: Brulla on April 08, 2008, 09:01:33 AM
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Alrighty! Welcome everybody!
Here you can discuss all the matters concerning this new league, ask your questions and give us your suggestions/input.
For the specific information about the league, visit The News and Updates topic (http://www.gtastunting.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=34001)!
If you think you will have trouble with the match dates for example, speak up in here or contact Kingjad or me via PM and we'll sort it out before it becomes a problem.
Oh..and to be clear, the league starts on April 17th!
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Personally I'm excited about two groups in particular - Group 5 is what in footballing terms would be known as the group of death. You have Dannye, Cdarmy, Feron and Mr.Magic, four very different stunters but all pretty popular too. Group 12 is also interesting as it pits two of TMS against each other, KillaMarci and Tackleberry.
EDIT: Forgot, Rod and BoxXx (WH guys) also in same group!
There are unique clashes of old-school with new-age stunters too. This is hopefully going to be an exhilirating GTASL
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Cool guys now i know in what group I'm and with who i will have matches
Anyway Good Luck too all guys
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You're doing a great job, I really liked the idea of the 3-stunter match on the very final, I can't wait for the matches begin
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My group seems....challenging. Great! Pretty cool that my first match is versus Nuc . Good job organizers, I have a feeling this is gonna be real schweeet.
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Cool guys now i know in what group I'm and with who i will have matches
Anyway Good Luck too all guys
oh noez not you again
gl dude
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I'm against Souzuk again
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Aw fuck.
I gotta match Daffy and Wozzie
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I guess I'm not in the league anymore since I can't find my name in the matches schedule?
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oh damn im gonna die fast
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Genyus:
http://www.gtastunting.net/forums/index.ph...st&p=673315 (http://www.gtastunting.net/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=32852&view=findpost&p=673315)
We're sorry but it would also affect your opponents.
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I got Knapman in my first round, but ZeroX in the second one.
I wait for it
Oh, if everything goes WRONG ( ) I'll have to travel with my parents on the 1st of May and we'll only come back on Sunday (that's the deadline). I'll do everything i can against it, but I don't promise anything sure.
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Sony: We may have a solution for you. We will discuss it closer to the time. As we told Genyus, if there's only one week that may be a problem, there could be a solution so we will see in due course.
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Sony: We may have a solution for you. We will discuss it closer to the time. As we told Genyus, if there's only one week that may be a problem, there could be a solution so we will see in due course.
Okay, it's a good idea.
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Nice with some news. Jaja has to be called favorite in my group, seeing him nailing hard challenges often and very fast lately. I'll do my best though, good luck everyone!
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Hehe SM this need to be destiny Anyway GL to you
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I'd like to remind everyone the sections were made up absolutely randomly. Now you know what those numbers were for in the old topic - each stunter represented a number, and we had a random number generator to assign who was in each section. This is also how we will give out challenges - it'll be completely random.
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I got Knapman in my first round, but ZeroX in the second one.
I wait for it
Oh, if everything goes WRONG ( ) I'll have to travel with my parents on the 1st of May and we'll only come back on Sunday (that's the deadline). I'll do everything i can against it, but I don't promise anything sure.
I have to face sony and ZeroX and other people. D=
You guys take bribery. =D lol nah guys. I'm just kidding. This'll be fun.
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Amusing how both sony and Knapman kinda neglect Sweet, who is a very experienced VC stunter
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Amusing how both sony and Knapman kinda neglect Sweet, who is a very experienced VC stunter
i'll spam him on MSN and distract him.
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:'(
I'm loling at boxXx vs. HeX.
he won't be able to do your stunt this time
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Ooh shit, I'm against Hex, Rod and boxXx.
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Shame that 360 guy ain't around anymore - we could've had a Hex-BoxXx-360 going!
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Permission to shoot Kingjad for that comment?
My group doesn't look too bad, should be good fun.
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Permission granted .
Go "Group Of Death"!
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You bastards don't appreciate good humour Exemplary members me arse!
I hope people can realise that we have to come up with 180 challenges for these group stages alone! So far we've thought up about 65 or so, not too bad, but we really need to start pushing the think tank into overdrive and whatever...
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Im in the group of death xD
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My group looks like alot of fun, great mixture between creativity and massive...
The 'group of death' shall root out alot of good guys = less competition later <3
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H3X, boxXx, aenon, Arky ...
Shame that 360 guy ain't around anymore - we could've had a Hex-BoxXx-360 going!
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whats this shit about 360?
and im in the worst group EVER, boxXx one of the favourites to win and one of my best mates, and Rod another friend and arky who is a insane stunter and Aeneon who i don't know, and please no jokes about boxXx landing my stuff.
im gonna get owned!!! you did it on purpose you assholes Brulla and Kingjad
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Haha, cant wait till Teh Jad reads that!
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how many days will give for chalanges?
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how many days will give for chalanges?
if you haven't noticed by now. Thuraday to sunday.
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about 4.
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Yes HeX, for no real reason me and Brulla are out to get you. Your insane paranoia is absolutely spot-on. From now on we will stay under your bed and make odd clicking noises while you try to fall to sleep. Be afraid, be very afraid.
Thursday-Sunday...that's all I've said about it. I've not really considered any specific times to start and finish during it, I guess whenever on a Sunday is good
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i knew it kingjad, STOP FUCKING WITH ME!!!! so how did you draw the line up?
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As we've already explained it was completely by random. The list in the old topic had a number next to each stunter who entered, and using those numbers we googled a random number generator to give out 72 numbers in whatever order. So the first 6 were group 1, the second 6 were group 2 etc etc.
As I've said before, this is also how we will be assigning challenges to matches.
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Amusing how both sony and Knapman kinda neglect Sweet, who is a very experienced VC stunter
neglect? are you kidding?
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Personally I'm excited about two groups in particular - Group 5 is what in footballing terms would be known as the group of death. You have Dannye, Cdarmy, Feron and Mr.Magic, four very different stunters but all pretty popular too.
What about me ¨
Btw Im in a group full of expert and Mr Magic stopped me in the past league, itll be so exiting to fight again with him and others as Dannye or Feron who are so good. CD as well.
Thanks for the great organisation and hopefully all will goes well,
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Aha, so I guess I'm out. Well there is nothing you can do about it. Too bad. I can't wait to see the results of this league though, you're doing a great job on the organization.
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Personally I'm excited about two groups in particular - Group 5 is what in footballing terms would be known as the group of death. You have Dannye, Cdarmy, Feron and Mr.Magic, four very different stunters but all pretty popular too.
What about me ¨
Btw Im in a group full of expert and Mr Magic stopped me in the past league, itll be so exiting to fight again with him and others as Dannye or Feron who are so good. CD as well.
Thanks for the great organisation and hopefully all will goes well,
Well, I mentioned those 4 because those guys are some exciting stunters right now, where as you are French so you're about as exciting as a stick of celery
Me and Brulla are very confident this will be a big success
EDIT: Cheers Genyus, sorry it turned out this way, but we couldn't think of a solution at all for you missing over half the group stages. There's always the next GTASL, eh?
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That's true, and luckily my SASL match got a new date so I still have my chances there.
'Lil bit early but: Can't wait for next year.
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how come im in group with every good stunter ? i get screwed hard from every angle i bet lol
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Maybe i'll have some trouble at submitting something in the first round because i'll be in a private hospital for correcting myopia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LASIK) on 14th april. I dunno when i'll be totally recovered but i can easily say that i'll not be active on GTAS before Thursday.
btw im pretty sure that i'll be able to land something before the deadline if its on Sunday so don't worry.
I just hope that my problem will not ruin my chance to stunt for this league
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It's not a problem.
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omfg, group 12
Great list, this league will be very fun
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Shall I spread my legs already?
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Charnel's going down! i cant wait... maybe he won shwo lets see a member thingy here... damnit he's active last today... no forfeit... maybe he wont win. anyway i can twiat lol.
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... maybe he won shwo lets see a member thingy here
Erm...urm...what?
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iemnt maybe he wont show, so i chcked his profile to see last activiy. unfortunatly this keyboard SUCKS ASS!
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Then stop fucking typing!
Does anyone realise how annoying it is to come up with 180 different challenges?
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Well, now when you say it, I tried to make up my own. WHAT ABOUT THESE?
Highest bump
Lamest grind
Coolest drifting
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Lamest grind
I don't stunt witha gun.
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Then stop fucking typing!
Does anyone realise how annoying it is to come up with 180 different challenges?
I can only imagine, we found it hard to come up with enough challenges for the last SL, and no doubt that was much much less than 180.
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Aeneon left btw
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Aeneon left btw
well yeah, i don't think he totally left, he's just has som issues right now.
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Erm...WHAT?!? I've heard nothing about this and as far as I know, neither has Brulla.
Someone PM me details about this straight away please if you know anything, or Aeneon can himself.
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If we understand the situation now, it is possible to bring in a replacement at this late stage before the competition properly begins. First we need to confirm whether Aeneon is pulling out. Then we can either make it just a group of 5, or bring in a replacement.
Problem is, I ain't got a clue who could be brought in. Cdarmy was the only one I knew who wanted in but couldn't because he was suspended during the sign-up period. I guess, as a precaution, if people are interested in participating as a last-minute replacement - send me a PM! (remember, serious cats only!)
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godson he asked in the other topic
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Good memory there, Sweet.
Alrighty then, I feel it's probably fair that should Aeneon be pulling out for whatever reasons, godson should simply take his place. I'll discuss this with Brulla and the other judges too to make sure they also like that idea. First, we find out if Aeneon is a goner. Next, we see if godson is up for competing. Finally, we make sure nobody else wusses out
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second, what time exactly do matches start?
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There's no real precise time - I guess early Thursday (early for Western Europe at least) and finish late Sunday. I have no real specific time in mind, just try to get things sorted as soon as on the Thursday and give folk as late as possible on the Sunday. Of course, they could submit entries before Sunday if they wanted too
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so really i have a disadvantage with being in Australia because that means i get about half of thursday?
And also im up against Godson first round!!!
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Hex - you have 4 days regardless of time zones. In theory you have the same amount of time as anyone else. What can we do, reveal the challenge to someone a few hours before their opponent just for the benefit of time zones?
Time zones are a bitch but you are being given plenty time to land stunts, more time than previous GTASLs.
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The easiest way to get around it is just to give the competitors x hours from when the topic is posted, like it has been in some (most) leagues here at GTAS.
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ok, what ever, im cool with what ever you guys say.
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I would be glad to compete..I could've of been in the list earlier but..some one said something that made me pissed..But I've cooled off now..I need some stunting practice lol
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The easiest way to get around it is just to give the competitors x hours from when the topic is posted, like it has been in some (most) leagues here at GTAS.
I didn't plan it any other way.
I PM'ed Aeneon and asked him about his future status concerning this league, let's see what happens. If he pulls out, I guess godson can take his place. Although personally I wouldn't want that...he chose to do that sympathy seeking stunt of pulling out, he should stand behind his words instead of being an attentionwhore.
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i cant wait to own daffy next week.
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Shakira can avenge me from the GTASL3
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OK, interesting update. I contacted Arios, otherwise known as Aeneon, who says he is still competing. He has problems with his other account, anyone's guess as to what went wrong with it.
Arios AKA Aeneon says he still wants to compete. So godson, looks like we were wrong about needing to bring you in as a replacement. However, should anyone else pull out I think this process may be repeated
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Bah..Oh wellz..Good luck all
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I'd like everyone who know they might be unavailable during some of the match dates to tell us about it now. So far I got:
Sony : ~ 01.05 -03.05
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Thanks.
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I'm just going to triple check, to make sure to empty my calender. First rounds for everyone is on Thrusday APRIL 17th, and we have a 4 day (96 hour) time frame in which to post a stunt?
If I'm wrong, please correct me so I can... be prepared.
Kingjad's edit: You said November, idiot fixed it to April
Krow's Edit: I don't know why I thought of novemeber o.o
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i should be allright.
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I wanna be in
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I wanna be in
You're too late I'm afraid, sign-up period was a good while ago!
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I'm just going to triple check, to make sure to empty my calender. First rounds for everyone is on Thrusday APRIL 17th, and we have a 4 day (96 hour) time frame in which to post a stunt?
If I'm wrong, please correct me so I can... be prepared.
Kingjad's edit: You said November, idiot fixed it to April
Krow's Edit: I don't know why I thought of novemeber o.o
lol at kingjad
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It's fairly last-minute but we may be amending something to do with the judges - as in increasing them. We'll keep people posted on any big changes, but some were concerned at having only 5 main judges try to do their stuff for 36 matches every week!
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Alrighty! The league is about so start soon! I hope everyone is ready!
We have now taken in two more judges, Neo and Nitzkit, making the total amount of judges 10. There won't be any main and replacement judges anymore....we're all judges now. The amount of matches (36) per week for 4 weeks is just too much to handle for 5 (8) judges. Don't worry, each match will still be judged only by 5 judges.
That's it for now....better get ready guys!
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I wanna be in
You're too late I'm afraid, sign-up period was a good while ago!
oh!! look at his userbar!! he plays gtavc!!! let him join in!!!
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And then godson will be able to join to i think .
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Everyone shut the hell up me and Brulla both have a bad feeling a few folk will be no-shows for the first round of matches. People don't realise this is the biggest GTASL in the history of GTAStunting. Putting things into perspective, GTASL2 only had 28 stunters, while GTASL3 had 40-something stunters.
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3 days!!!!!
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so the video for this will be a near impossible task.
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Ooh, 2 days more.
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I think we should start to think an editor to the video. Maybe it'll be in two or more parts, (most likely, at least myself, I'd like to see it in one) but anyway, it would be stupid to not make a video just because there's more people than ever been in SL.
Smartest thing to do would be to decide editor early, so he could start his job right after (luckily) first rounds, because it would be hell kind of job to record and edit after the league has finished.
I would myself suggest brandon6199 (ofcourse, in case that he would like to edit) since he ain't afraid of big projects right now, since he was ready to edit the community video.
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I think we should start to think an editor to the video. Maybe it'll be in two or more parts, (most likely, at least myself, I'd like to see it in one) but anyway, it would be stupid to not make a video just because there's more people than ever been in SL.
Smartest thing to do would be to decide editor early, so he could start his job right after (luckily) first rounds, because it would be hell kind of job to record and edit after the league has finished.
I would myself suggest brandon6199 (ofcourse, in case that he would like to edit) since he ain't afraid of big projects right now, since he was ready to edit the community video.
Dude, we decided this already, It's VenomX and Ofthemountain.
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Thought it was already decided: those sick freaks, VenomX and someone else I think, were going to edit.
EDIT: Aye, I'll say this only once ever on GTAS: Knapman is right.
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Oh I didn't knew about that. Though it would be still smart to start editing early.
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It wasn't decided really, we just said we would be up for doing it. I wouldn't want us to seize the project without general approval first.
Oh and that "someone else" is me Kingjad
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I forgot to add that in the information topic... *fixed*
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Due to Demonfade being AWOL for now, I will temporarily replace him as a judge.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
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noooo... I'll have to beat Torque and Dan, also WaRoW I'll defianetly loose very fast the hardest battle - SORT vs. Dan! very hard to battle my friend any way GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY!
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Even if you Sort loose 2 matches you can win 3 of 5 and you will win . So GL to all
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I must battle Feron! Very hard to battle my best friend!
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I must battle Feron! Very hard to battle my best friend!
yeah, i feel u, lol
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GriMm is my best friend, and I had my match against him in last SL. It's fun, I think.
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Have the first round matches been released yet?
Edit: Oooo....this leagues gonna be funky.
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We won't tell people what their matches are until Thursday, but I can confirm we have already started setting them up so we are prepared. I've already done all the week 1 matches for groups 1-6. Remember, challenges are randomly assigned, so if nobody likes a challenge blame randomness rather than randomly blaming the judges and organisers.
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I must battle Feron! Very hard to battle my best friend!
yeah, i feel u, lol
that's dirty
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Holy fucking hell - this thing is so perfectly organized!!!
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its to perfect.
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Which can only mean one thing....BRULLA AND KINGJAD ARE ALIENS!!!
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can there be a waiting list so if someone drops out you have a replacement (me) lulz
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No Sab, if you were to enter the league now none of s would even have a chance of winning.
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Thanks for the support Torque.
As for Sabotage....no, we won't take any replacements.
I hope everyone's ready for the opening tomorrow!
We're gonna try to post the challenges every thursday around 2-6 pm (GMT 0). We know this will be crappy for the aussies for example, but there's not really any way to make it perfect for everyone without making it really complicated.
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GL Everyone
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Amphetamine has pulled out due to needing to study for exams. We need a replacement, and we need it now. Who's going to step up?
Anyone but Sabotage. Sorry Sab, Brulla's orders
PM me or Brulla if interested. In fact, PM BOTH of us, just to be safe.
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I hope everyone's ready for the opening tomorrow!
We're gonna try to post the challenges every thursday around 2-6 pm (GMT 0). We know this will be crappy for the aussies for example, but there's not really any way to make it perfect for everyone without making it really complicated.
How is it crappy for certain people? Everyone still got the same amount of hours to finish it, it's not like the Europeans won't sleep.
I'm looking forward to tomorrow, you've organized this great so far.
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Amphetamine has pulled out due to needing to study for exams. We need a replacement, and we need it now. Who's going to step up?
Anyone but Sabotage. Sorry Sab, Brulla's orders
PM me or Brulla if interested. In fact, PM BOTH of us, just to be safe.
Godson was next to join! Let Godson join!
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Amphetamine has pulled out due to needing to study for exams. We need a replacement, and we need it now. Who's going to step up?
Anyone but Sabotage. Sorry Sab, Brulla's orders
PM me or Brulla if interested. In fact, PM BOTH of us, just to be safe.
Godson was next to join! Let Godson join!
Yeah didn't you guys say if someone dropped godson could join, he almost did before.
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Well, bugger me - yet again I forgot all about devildaughter. If godson is still interested, I'd consider it his for the taking. Amphetamine is DEFINITELY out, and godson did express an interest in joining.
It's all down to godson to decide now.
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Lets do this porno
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Lets do this porno
YAY SON OF GOD!
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Fantastic godson, you're in group 4 first match tomorrow against Looker!
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LOL BIAS
GTASL3 Region 5 Champion
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Sab, just be thankful you were able to post that. The staff are trying to deliberate the best way to nuke yer sorry arse for even being here Try your best to be a good boy, it might help you. But enough about that - we are so very close to beginning the biggest ever GTASL in the history of GTAStunting, so everyone try your best - especially everyone in Daffy's group, seeing as he's the current champ
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ill be a good boy if you unban my real account
NEGOTIATION
lol plz
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Umm what exactly are we supposed to do?
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around which time will you post the challenge??
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If I calculated correctly (which I no doubt didn't ), that would be between 1 and 5 hours from now - judging by Brulla's post on the last page.
EDIT: Well hot dog, looks like that time is now.
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A little word of advice... Use logic sense.
If we don't specificly say VC or LC only, it means you are allowed to use both! Same thing applies if we don't tell a specific way to do something.
You can imagine that it's a hell of a job to answer tons of these silly questions.
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I feel a bit bad about letting Brulla answer it all, but I too was foolish enough to think people on here had common sense
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sorry that i asked -_-
as its my first league i just wanted to do everything right so i dont get disqualified or something..
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Oh no, don't take it wrong, we aren't pissed off about it.
If you feel that you aren't sure about something, then by all means contact us. Better safe than sorry.
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Remember as well guys: Just because the deadline is SUNDAY, doesn't mean you have to wait until then. I encourage communication with your opponents, and if you have both already landed your stunts, feel free to post them before Sunday, making the judge's jobs easier. Some folk are a bit hesitant at posting their submission until the last moments in case their opponent sees it early and tries to better it. So talk to each other, and if you've both already landed something then work together, use common sense and post it there and then.
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I already post my entry
And waiting to last moment is like a game : Who will stay longer .
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Blaze has withdrawn from the GTASL4. This means Group 8 has 5 stunters, instead of 6. All of Blaze's matches are wiped, and one different stunter from group 8 per week will 'sit out'.
Coincidentally, this might be a good thing overall. BoxXx is set to miss the third week of competing. We could rearrange it so he would be the one sitting out of week 3. We'll get something sorted out tomorrow.
EDIT: Reading back over it, I sound a bit mean. While I am sorry Blaze has had to withdraw, I also can't deny it might help out someone else who was in trouble too in his group. Every cloud has a silver lining, so they say, and while this is bad for Blaze it looks like boxXx is rescued
I hope everyone tries their best with their stunts. Demonfade has returned, so I'm not judging anymore thankfully. When posting your submissions, feel free to include a streaming clip so lazy bastards like me can watch!
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Communication with my enemy? ha, and again ha!
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Gah...had a feeling that Blaze character might cause trouble. In this case it sorted out well, nicely done Kingy.
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We judges really appreciate clips (streaming or downloadable). You can imagine that it becomes a hell of a job to view reps if many people only provide us with the reps (there's 72 submissions per week).
That will only make things complicated and piss off the judges, which you surely don't want to do.
If there's any chance that the participant can clip their stunts, please do.
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Seeing this thread (http://www.gtastunting.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=34313&st=0&#entry680871), it might be a good idea with a new rule. A new rule saying that your uploaded entry can't be changed (unless rules are broken and you have to get a new stunt).
It's not really fair to post one, get opinions and tips, then to post a new one instead.
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Seeing this thread (http://www.gtastunting.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=34313&st=0&#entry680871), it might be a good idea with a new rule. A new rule saying that your uploaded entry can't be changed (unless rules are broken and you have to get a new stunt).
It's not really fair to post one, get opinions and tips, then to post a new one instead.
Agreed.
This rule will be added and it will apply starting from next week.
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Rules:
- These rules will be strictly enforced and violation of them may result in warnings and suspensions.
- No arguing or flaming
- Stunts must be completed within the time given between the time the match begins and the deadline. STUNTS PERFORMED OUTSIDE OF THIS TIME WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED
- Stunters must submit a rep and the preferred video of their stunt
- If a stunter has uploaded and posted his entry, then it's final, he can't change it anymore.
- The judge's decisions are final. You do not need to like their decision, but you will respect it. Do not hassle or harass any judge either on GTAS or through personal messages (this includes MSN). Violators of this rule will be dealt with swiftly and harshly.
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What about on the odd occasion where their first submission may have been done under an incorrect interpretation of the challenge? Would they then be allowed to resubmit a new stunt, or would they be forced to stick with their dud?
(Not that it matters to me, I obviously don't plan on stuffing up that badly , but I am just curious - seeing as it may happen down the line, to somebody)
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If anyone is unsure of their challenge, they ask. Common sense. We've already gone over this. If anyone is silly enough to submit something without making sure they understood what they were meant to achieve, it's their own fault.
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Could judges vote faster?
I am going crazy to know if I win or lose.
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Many people have asked, but I haven't seen any answers.
Why doesn't fast reply work in the match threads?
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When I was making up the sections I may have accidentally removed the function to do fast reply. I can rectify it later if I can be bothered to
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Listen up, morons.
72 hours is what you have.
If your challenge was posted at, for example, 2:15pm on Thursday (UK time), then it'll work out like this:
24 hours: Friday 2:15pm
48 hours: Saturday 2:15pm
72 hours: SUNDAY 2:15pm.
Most people have roughly 22 hours or there abouts left to do stunts, depending on when your challenge was posted.
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Too many matches where one, or even both, didnt do their thang.
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What about on the odd occasion where their first submission may have been done under an incorrect interpretation of the challenge? Would they then be allowed to resubmit a new stunt, or would they be forced to stick with their dud?
(Not that it matters to me, I obviously don't plan on stuffing up that badly , but I am just curious - seeing as it may happen down the line, to somebody)
Oh crap...edited the original response away, stupid me.
Yeah....don't see any problem there. Of course we have to look at the specific situation.
Could judges vote faster?
I am going crazy to know if I win or lose.
Believe it or not, the judging is a ton of work. We have total of 180 votes to do with a lot of post editing and reading. We try to finish the judging before the next round.
Many people have asked, but I haven't seen any answers.
We are trying to answer them all. The best way is to PM us though.
Too many matches where one, or even both, didnt do their thang.
Yeah....a lot of assholes out there.
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I'm very disappointed in the no-shows, especially from guys like Feron and ZeroX who should know better by now. Saying that MOST folk seemed to have a match going for them.
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So how many points get people who won by no-shows?
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4 points for the person that shows up, 0 points for the person that didn't. We're sticking with that format.
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4 points for the person that shows up, 0 points for the person that didn't. We're sticking with that format.
Seriously?
Take an example, morbidxxx made a great stunt and now he only gets 4 points instead of 6, which he would've get if krow would've submit a stunt (if that would not have been even better, of course). Don't you get this system welcomes "no-shows"? If my opponent submits an awesome stunt, of course I don't want to spend a lot of time landing one and giving him 6 points, when I just could stop instead and he would only get 4 points.
I like the way the tournament is this year, but that rule is stupid imo. Sorry.
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I surely hope that no one is that selfish, and would give nothing, just to prevent other one from getting points. But yes, Tackleberry is right, there should be some changement to that rule.
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Well, your concerns have been voiced and discussions about it will take place. However I still feel for a stunter to automatically get 6 points is a bit much, for a default win.
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Sorry for overreacting. I still stand by what I said, but maybe it's not THAT important (I hope). As long as it doesn't cause any big problems it's ok. And don't think I think you're running this the wrong way, cause I really don't.
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i agree with tackleberry..
now i get 4 points.. because stevex didn't post anything
and that sucks xD
i hope it wont be a problem,,
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Nothing serious, I only want to congrartz to the organizers, they do their job fast and well.
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I agree with Tac but yeah maybe 6 points is too much so you can give solid 5 points .
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yay, i have 4 points! xD
and I'll totally lose to Dan,Torque.. everybody in my group xD
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Now hang on guys, for those who actually had matches where their opponent showed up, let the judges deal with it. Me and Brulla will discuss the matter of how many points for the no-show matches tomorrow. Obviously a few people are feeling agitated with it so while this is still the first week, and no precedent has been set yet, we can try and work on a solution everyone is happy with.
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mm i wasnt a no show allegedlyi was 4 hours late but i have two excuses: 1: according to my standards and time zones it was only in the late 60s of hours past. and second i was fighting a fire since 6 am which would be i think 70 hours in accordign to your standards until i got home to upload thevid. (at the time i posted it) of course i guess i have no choice but to accept that is my fault thAT i couldnt find another time of course. (im not trying to complain) but i was not a no show, just a late entry so i dont know whether or not charnel will recieve the assigned points for a no show or what.
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Now hang on guys, for those who actually had matches where their opponent showed up, let the judges deal with it. Me and Brulla will discuss the matter of how many points for the no-show matches tomorrow. Obviously a few people are feeling agitated with it so while this is still the first week, and no precedent has been set yet, we can try and work on a solution everyone is happy with.
There is another option, which is kinda a mix of the two approaches...
Give 4 points to the person who shows up, and
Subtract 2 points from the person who did not show up.
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When discussing this with Tack, Neo and TD earlier on MSN Tack suggested a points deduction idea. This is what I will discuss with Brulla tomorrow.
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but then i for example would get minus two just for postng late. most no shows arent showing for the whole sl im gonna say. thus this wouldnt even do anything...
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It's very complicated, UtterGarbage, which is WHY me and Brulla will discuss this thoroughly tomorrow! We do realise there are unique circumstances at times. Please let us deal with it the best way we can.
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But i think 70 hours is a big amount of time and you know about this match so you can be prepared.
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72 hours.
The timing was meant to be simple for people. As I said in an older post in this topic, think on page 10:
If I post a challenge at 2pm UK time on a Thursday, then the deadline will be 2pm on a SUNDAY. Basically, the time I post a challenge, you have precisely 4 days (2pm-midnight Thursday, all of Friday, all of Saturday and Sunday until 2pm UK time) to land your challenge. This was done so people wouldn't be that confused.
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Perhaps its worth considering the rule change:
(From):
Dannye's SCM is allowed along with any lonely mods, 24hr sunshine mods, spawners and distance limiters.
(To something along the lines of):
Dannye's SCM is allowed [as long as whatever you do with it is plausible without the mod. Eg. If you are gonna spawn/teleport onto a roof, be sure its possible to get up there properly!] along with any lonely mods, 24hr sunshine mods, spawners and distance limiters.
To most of us it seems obvious, but I already saw in one of the threads someone mentioning that because the USCM was allowed, it was okay to have a car on a possibly-unreachable roof.
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On another note, great first round organisers/judges! Bar the occasional no-show, it was great!
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I agree with Tackleberry. But at the same time it feels wrong that Cdarmy would get exactly as many points as me and FIGHTER just because Feron didn't show up.
On another note, great first round organisers/judges! Bar the occasional no-show, it was great!
Precisely my opinion.
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Thanks for the suggestions dudes, although it would of been better to speak up when the whole format idea was pitched. We will talk about it and we'll let you know what will happen.
Anyhow....we've now finished the first round! Every match has been judged and the votes counted. Great job people! Especially the judges, thanks for the BIG help.
For the people who didn't show up for their matches...better pull yourselves together for the next round or you will be thrown out of the league.
Good luck to everyone in the next round!
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Anyone knows something about ZeroX? I'll have my next match against him and I'd really like to compare him to myself. I can tell you this is the match I keep for the most important in my group. He was one of my old favourites and now I don't know how good is he still. I hope he'll be here.
I'm gonna send a PM to him in 5 mins.
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He hasn't been on the forums since April 17th, we honestly don't think he's gonna show up this thursday either. If he doesn't, he's out of the league.
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Sounds sadly
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I have feeling that Souzuk is out too
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On the 17th ZeroX wrote this post:
http://www.gtastunting.net/forums/index.ph...mp;#entry680776 (http://www.gtastunting.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=34002&st=120&p=680776&#entry680776)
...so it doesn't look that promising, unfortunately.
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this isn't good, vista is messed now. I log in and it takes 1 minute to get past the loading screen and then I go to a black screen. Thus withdrawing me from stunting till this problem is fixed. My brother will come over but we do not know when this is. I may actually go to a friends house and stunt if it requires me too. I will not miss out and let the oganisers down, they took the time to organize this I signed up as a participant who would stunt so I will. Just telling you all.
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Thanks Knapman, try your best and hope your Vista stops being a prick!
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He hasn't been on the forums since April 17th, we honestly don't think he's gonna show up this thursday either. If he doesn't, he's out of the league.
And what will happen to the ones that have matches against him?
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He hasn't been on the forums since April 17th, we honestly don't think he's gonna show up this thursday either. If he doesn't, he's out of the league.
And what will happen to the ones that have matches against him?
They will automatically get the four points too. Fair game.
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Teacher told today that we're going to have school at Saturday too, so maybe it's better that Zx is out.
But....no it would be better if could show up his best against me
Anyway, did anyone start to collect the stunts, or can take this job?
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VenomX and ofthemountain are apparently going to do so. It doesn't hurt though to back them up sony, so do as you wish
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He hasn't been on the forums since April 17th, we honestly don't think he's gonna show up this thursday either. If he doesn't, he's out of the league.
And what will happen to the ones that have matches against him?
They will automatically get the four points too. Fair game.
I don't think it's fair, if he gets kicked off the ocmpetition and I don't submit any stunt I get 4 points automatically? IMO we should be given normal challenges
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He hasn't been on the forums since April 17th, we honestly don't think he's gonna show up this thursday either. If he doesn't, he's out of the league.
And what will happen to the ones that have matches against him?
They will automatically get the four points too. Fair game.
I don't think it's fair, if he gets kicked off the ocmpetition and I don't submit any stunt I get 4 points automatically? IMO we should be given normal challenges
it'll be a bye, so we all get the same amount of points.
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We are prepared for the second week of matches already. I've personally assigned all the challenges to the matches. There's a few interesting ones in there, which may frustrate a couple of people.
Feron, you better show up for yer damn match. As far as I know you had no excuse whatsoever from not competing apart from not liking the challenge. You do it again, you're out of the GTASL.
ZeroX, you'll probably not bother yer arse off for this. It's a shame cos I got a feeling you'd enjoy your match with sony
Yama, you didn't even bother giving an excuse for standing up Kenny in his match. The annoying thing is you logged on to the forums kinda recent. We want people who are eager to compete.
The first week was, to an extent, rather successful. Let's try and do better for the second week.
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We are prepared for the second week of matches already. I've personally assigned all the challenges to the matches. There's a few interesting ones in there, which may frustrate a couple of people.
Feron, you better show up for yer damn match. As far as I know you had no excuse whatsoever from not competing apart from not liking the challenge. You do it again, you're out of the GTASL.
ZeroX, you'll probably not bother yer arse off for this. It's a shame cos I got a feeling you'd enjoy your match with sony
Yama, you didn't even bother giving an excuse for standing up Kenny in his match. The annoying thing is you logged on to the forums kinda recent. We want people who are eager to compete.
The first week was, to an extent, rather successful. Let's try and do better for the second week.
Isn't it Sliw? Sort isn't in my group and I'm in ZX's group
Kingjad's edit: You're right, I meant to say 'sony' actually, sorry for saying 'SORT'
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Aren't we suppose to get new matches today? :/
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Tomorrow, its every Thursday - Sunday (72 hours).
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Listen Venom Krow
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Tomorrow mate.
Also, regarding the video. We were thinking of including the best stunts (2-4 ish) from each week of the group stages, then all of them from the knock out stage afterwards, as including every stunt would be pretty ridiculous. Does this sound OK to everyone? Any other suggestions regarding how else we could discern which stunts should go in the video would be great.
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Oh... I thought today was the 24th, because I looked at the day yesterday, at about 1am, it said the 23rd so it fooled me... My bad <.<
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If you looked at the clock yesterday and it said the 23rd, then today must be the 24th .
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I looked it early this morning, and thought that, since I havn't been to sleep, that it was the 23rd and TODAY was the 24th, but tommorow really is....
My mind is twisted, leave me be :/
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Sounds perfect, all stunts don't have to be in.
EDIT:
Wow, three posts in between, I'm slow. My comment was a reply to ofthemountain's post.
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How about to make "Group" video ?? You know : Group 1 video , Group 2 video etc ?? and when League will be finish put them together in one big video ??
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How about to make "Group" video ?? You know : Group 1 video , Group 2 video etc ?? and when League will be finish put them together in one big video ??
Are you that certain you barely won't appear in the vid?
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It's just suggestion , i don't care about video.
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Tomorrow mate.
Also, regarding the video. We were thinking of including the best stunts (2-4 ish) from each week of the group stages, then all of them from the knock out stage afterwards, as including every stunt would be pretty ridiculous. Does this sound OK to everyone? Any other suggestions regarding how else we could discern which stunts should go in the video would be great.
I know there are so many weeks and then the finals, but do you think that 2-4 are enough? At least 6 would be much better I think, it's at least the half of the number of the groups. But if you think this would make the video so much BIGGER, then just decide how you want
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That's only an estimate. I just don't want to make a ridiculously long video. One week it might be 6, one week it might be 3, just depends on the stunts. We will do our best to accomodate the very best from the group stages.
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Sounds OK. I mean Tack didn't exactly use every stunt in the second SL's video.
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I would love nothing more than a 20-40 minutes of stunting with nice editing and music, but it'd be hell kind of job to editors.
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I think most people would get a bit bored halfway through if the vid was that long
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I think most people would get a bit bored halfway through if the vid was that long
Yeah, I'd watch it once and never again.
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Yep, I think the GTASL2 vid became too long and for that I didn't use all stunts. Plus there will be much more stunts in total for this tournament.
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If possible we don't really want to exceed 8-9 minutes in total. Unless they are very good I get very bored with long stunt videos. If we took 20 stunts from the group round and all of the stunts from the knock out stage there would be 45-50 in total I think. That would be a 7 minute long (approximately) main part. 20 stunts from the group stages would be the best 4 per week. Comments and suggested adjustments? My estimations might be a bit wrong by the way.
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NOTE:
From now on, the new submission rule will apply:
- If a stunter has uploaded and posted his entry, he can't change it after that.
Be sure not to post your submission unless you are 100% sure you won't keep working on it.
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Before you upload your reps, please compress them into a .rar or a .zip.
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NOTE:
We have added a new rule:
- If a participant has been seen on GTAS during his match, but doesn't post a submission before the deadline, 2 points will be taken from him as a penalty. (Only applies if the other opponent submitted an entry)
This rule (suggested by Dannye) is put in use immediately. The rule will do justice to the people who's opponents deliberately don't submit anything, just to give the opponent 4 points instead of the possible 6.
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The following people have been thrown out of the league due to inactivity/not giving a shit:
ZeroX
Yama
BoxXx
Wozzie
Feron
Kingjad and I are really disappointed to the amount of no-shows we've had so far in the league. We really hope all of you guys will try to commit to this thing in the next rounds.
The decision what will happen with the remaining matches these guys should of had will be posted later on.
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four-post lol
There will be any looser rounds?
four-post lol
There will be any looser rounds?
four-post lol
There will be any looser rounds?
four-post lol
There will be any looser rounds?
four-post lol
There will be any looser rounds?
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No.
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okay..
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Picking stunts for the video is really hard already, seriously. There have been a lot of awesome entries so far, keep up the good work guys. We are trying to limit the group stage so that no one has more than one stunt so as many people get in as possible. However we also are trying to limit it time wise by not having too many stunts, it's proving a nasty process! We have a good idea of the stunts getting used from these first two weeks now though. We are thinking hard about making as varied a video as possible, so not just putting our personal favourites in but trying to get a good balance of everything in there so it will be a good watch to basically everyone hopefully! We'll keep you updated with video stuff as the competition proceeds.
Also, we are probably going to only use player skins, not bike skins. This will make sense as many stunts aren't in bikes anyway and it will save us a lot of work. If we could make some means of collecting all the skins for this competition that would be handy.
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Sigh...this is problematic. Here's the dilemma facing us organisers.
Those who were no-shows got points awarded against them, so 4 automatic points for example to the stunter who was there. But after two no-shows in a row, these guys are booted out (feron, ZeroX, yama etc).
However, it feels unfair that stunters were able to pick up 4 points against the no-shows while the rest of the stunters in the section didn't get a chance to pick up a default 4 points. See the problem here?
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Sigh...this is problematic. Here's the dilemma facing us organisers.
Those who were no-shows got points awarded against them, so 4 automatic points for example to the stunter who was there. But after two no-shows in a row, these guys are booted out (feron, ZeroX, yama etc).
However, it feels unfair that stunters were able to pick up 4 points against the no-shows while the rest of the stunters in the section didn't get a chance to pick up a default 4 points. See the problem here?
Wierd, I was thinking that actually. Well I see one thing fair for the people that had absolutely no show the last 2 weeks. Just add 4 points to everyones scores.
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Sigh...this is problematic. Here's the dilemma facing us organisers.
Those who were no-shows got points awarded against them, so 4 automatic points for example to the stunter who was there. But after two no-shows in a row, these guys are booted out (feron, ZeroX, yama etc).
However, it feels unfair that stunters were able to pick up 4 points against the no-shows while the rest of the stunters in the section didn't get a chance to pick up a default 4 points. See the problem here?
Wierd, I was thinking that actually. Well I see one thing fair for the people that had absolutely no show the last 2 weeks. Just add 4 points to everyones scores.
We probably will end up doing that, actually, but I'm just highlighting the difficulties we organisers are facing thanks to those who only took this half-heartedly
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Why don't the judges decide on how many points the one who showed up should get, based on how good they found the stunt he submitted.
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Sigh...this is problematic. Here's the dilemma facing us organisers.
Those who were no-shows got points awarded against them, so 4 automatic points for example to the stunter who was there. But after two no-shows in a row, these guys are booted out (feron, ZeroX, yama etc).
However, it feels unfair that stunters were able to pick up 4 points against the no-shows while the rest of the stunters in the section didn't get a chance to pick up a default 4 points. See the problem here?
I don't understand the dilemma. In my opinion you should just remove all matches from the ones who have been kicked out, also old ones. Therefore also remove the points from those matches.
Or you could just give everyone in the group the same amount of points (4), since you've already given two that amount. But that's like the same as the first alternative.
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We might still have the matches (obviously the kicked competitors aren't allowed to play in them) and the opponents just have to make atleast some kind of a submission. I think it would be fair considering that the other dudes who already had the matches with the no-shows, still had to make submissions.
We will post the decision soon (Thanks for the suggestions fellas!).
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Any conclusion to my issue between you two?
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I have an idea for a solution, Krow. Indeed what happened to you wasn't fair. Do not worry, you haven't been forgotten. We'll talk later on after I discuss more with Brulla.
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We might still have the matches (obviously the kicked competitors aren't allowed to play in them) and the opponents just have to make atleast some kind of a submission. I think it would be fair considering that the other dudes who already had the matches with the no-shows, still had to make submissions.
We will post the decision soon (Thanks for the suggestions fellas!).
That's the best solution, it wouldn't be fair for the ones who land their stunt to lose their points or someone get free points just because their opponent has been kicked out
So... give the challenges anyway(my next match was supposed to be against ZeroX, so I don't want to not have a challenge this week ), if landed properly, the stunter gets 4 points like the other ones, but if he lands any crap thinking "well, I got no one to beat me so I cannot lose", he gets nothing
Fair enough in my opinion
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Come on judges, there are still a few matches left to vote on!
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Yea come on you lazy poops!
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Yea come on you lazy poops!
aahhh... btw - when will be the next challenges..?
I want to know what i have to do, faster.. cause i am busy...
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Yea come on you lazy poops!
aahhh... btw - when will be the next challenges..?
I want to know what i have to do, faster.. cause i am busy...
Well the last two rounds had their matches posted around 3-4 CET. So if they're gonna follow the same pattern, they'll be released in 5 to 6 hours.
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Yea come on you lazy poops!
aahhh... btw - when will be the next challenges..?
I want to know what i have to do, faster.. cause i am busy...
Well the last two rounds had their matches posted around 3-4 CET. So if they're gonna follow the same pattern, they'll be released in 5 to 6 hours.
k, maybe they could post them a bit faster?
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We're a little behind the schedule as it is. If anything, the matches will be posted a bit later than usual.
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We're a little behind the schedule as it is. If anything, the matches will be posted a bit later than usual.
k, i hope soon enough.
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yeah, where chalenges?
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Posting them now, you horse-shagging evil-doer.
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Not that it matters to me; but why does the replay now have to be in a .rar/.zip ?
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Think it's to do with how it preserves the information the replay contains, like the date it was landed and stuff
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Remember this, retards: When uploading your replays, zip or rar them first or else I'll be very evil and not accept your entry.
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So how'd you guys solve the kick out problem? To use our group as an example, will you remove Dannye's and Cdarmy's 4 points or will I, Fighter and NuclearDeath get a shot at Feron, without him being allowed to submit an entry?
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We're working on it, honest it's a massive headache truth be told, so many people have let us down.
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What about with My and Snowman round?
The voting stopped
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Any updates on the Info & Tracking topics? The one for Group 7 is from the 1st round, dunno about the others
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updates are slow, and votes too, 3 judges have lost somewhere..
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Hey i have information to Brulla&Kingjad : i have some problems with my net connecting so sorry if i will not able to post something but i think everything will be ok . So if i will not be here big Sorry .
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Updates are slow? No fucking wonder! We have problem after problem after problem with participants dropping out one after another, some without warning, matches where nobody even fucking turns up, trying to make the points fair for those who were given points automaticaly etc etc etc. The whole thing's a complete farce, which is probably partially my own fault for actually believing those who signed up were willing to compete. The worst of it is that those who dropped out were not just random newbies, there were those who are on GTAS regularly too.
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I was going to be patient, but... Shouldn't we be able to expect a bit more than 3 votes in most matches by now, when there are 11 judges?
I understand it's a lot for you (especially Brulla and Kingjad) to do, but it seems like only a few of the judges are voting.
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It is unfortunate, yes. Not much we can do though.
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No matter how well I would have done, I couldn't have gotten as many maximum points as f.ex Daffy so far, because my competitors didn't show up for their matches.
It's not fair and I feel it's a fail in the system here.
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Of course it's not perfect! We didn't find a system which would of been fair to everybody. What do you suggest yourself?
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Yeah what your suggest RedX , you guys can only show bad things of this League but you don't understand that
is pretty hard to keep this thing in one piece .
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I agree with RedX and I did suggest another way of how the points should be given (I can't understand at all why not a person doesn't gets all the votes if his opponent doesn't even submit a stunt), but it would be rather weird the change the rules this late.
Nice to see some activity from the other judges now, great.
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Thankfully, we have plenty of time to solve any points disputes. Once we can determine a proper and fair manner in how to deal with it, we can sort out the points and who finishes where in the table. Until then, we continue as we are. I'm currently preparing week 4's matches. A few crackers in there, I'll tell ya now!
How to deal with a no-show who already participated in the early stages so it's fairer on everyone else, and also dealing with a no-show who was a never-even-here-show...there's a lot of differing variables to see to, and I won't lie when I say we WILL ask you buggers who are complaining for the fairest and best solution to the whole no-show points situation.
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Tack, if we would give the 6 (or 5) points automaticly, it wouldn't be very fair either. People would get lots of free points and that's not right at all. There is no perfect way to fix the problems the no-shows cause.
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Yeah what your suggest RedX , you guys can only show bad things of this League but you don't understand that
is pretty hard to keep this thing in one piece .
Whatchu chyattnin aboot? A couple of suggestions have been proposed.
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Or you could just give everyone in the group the same amount of points (4), since you've already given two that amount. But that's like the same as the first alternative.
In my opinion we should do this with a slight modification. Because in the way Tack suggested, it wouldn't be fair to the people who bothered to land stunts for matches where his opponent didn't show up. So I think we should do like Tack said but instead of just giving those 4 points away for free you post a match for i.e me and Feron, but Feron wouldn't be able to compete cus he has been kicked out. And thus I would have to land a stunt to get my four points. g2g ill elaborate if u cant comprehend.
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hey, we are having problems in the SASL league too, so
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where new challenges?
i want stunt
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NEW CHALLENGES! AND VOTES FOR LAST WEEK!!!
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slow down ppl!
i think the judges have life too
there insn't everything about stunting.
And thursday isn't over btw
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In my opinion we should do this with a slight modification. Because in the way Tack suggested, it wouldn't be fair to the people who bothered to land stunts for matches where his opponent didn't show up. So I think we should do like Tack said but instead of just giving those 4 points away for free you post a match for i.e me and Feron, but Feron wouldn't be able to compete cus he has been kicked out. And thus I would have to land a stunt to get my four points. g2g ill elaborate if u cant comprehend.
I came up with the same idea a while ago, we chose not to use it though.
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I came up with the same idea a while ago, we chose not to use it though.
And why is that?
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Tack, if we would give the 6 (or 5) points automaticly, it wouldn't be very fair either. People would get lots of free points and that's not right at all. There is no perfect way to fix the problems the no-shows cause.
I think it would be fair. People who misses matches (without telling in advance) don't have a good chance to win the group anyway. It's not good that they still are able to make a mess by sitting out some matches. Giving people 6 points would remove any affect from the no-shows. Sorry if I fail to explain exactly what I mean, couldn't write exactly what I meant.
Also I'll never be able to see how a win against a nonexistent stunt could be worth less than a win against a stunt.
But so far I haven't been affected of a no-show, so I guess I shouldn't complain...
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@ Mr.Magic: We decided it would be the most painless way to go. Too late to change the point system anyhow.
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Alright! All the points are now updated! You should still recount your own points if you want to be sure though, those numbers might not be accurate, we make mistakes too.
If any of you notice something wrong with the points, please, bring it up!
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^Dannye should have 6 points. Nice work other than that.
Edit: Btw, approximately which date will the non-group matches start?
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Think Brulla deserves lots of sexual favours for updating the tables folks, I couldn't even get my head around a good solution which was as fair as possible!
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I thought I posted the quote of where I put forth my suggestion
Anyway my suggestion is simply that the judges give away as many points as they feel that the stunt is worth.
If they see that it's just a crappy 'last 5 min before deadline' stunt, they might give it 2pts. If they see that the stunter put a lot of effort into the entry and think the stunt is good they could give 4, 5 or 6 points. Simplicity!
Sounds a bit messy.. but it's way more fair in my opinion, referring to what I said above.. (crappy last minute stunt=4pts)
Edit: Read above that Brulla said it was too late, well hopefully next gtasl then.. cause this was really unfair
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The time it takes to do a stunt isn't what matters. Hell, Kert for example has pulled off AMAZING stunts after 5 minutes of trying (I'm remembering an old msn convo with him lol). We look at the creativity a stunter shows and how well he has pulled off a specific challenge, simple as that. The time it takes to do a stunt isn't a factor. Took me 7 months to do a BSM one time and folk didn't really enjoy it, they preferred another stunt of mine in that same vid that only took about an hour!
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Took me 7 months to do a BSM one time
Little off-topic, but has it been released after that?
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The vid I was referring to was 'Delta'. I had four stunts in it, including my holy grail at the time of a p2b2stuckystoppie2gap2stuckystoppie Southern Finest, when I first started, gave me the BSM to do as a challenge. For a newbie, it was pretty tough but I was determined to nail it. Finally nailed it and felt kinda sweet about it. Landed a faggio tree to roof as well at last second for vid. Turns out people loved that damn faggio stunt a lot more than the shitty BSM
Time is not a guarantee of quality.
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Forget the time it took then, just give the stunt as many points as you guys feel it's worth!
Think outside the box, gee
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What if there is a match where two bad stunts are posted but the person who's stunt was marginally but obviously better wins and gets 6 points. The way you have suggested is no more fair at all, very few stunts would get 5 points compared to nothing else, based entirely on how enjoyable it is. However many mediocre stunts win easily over even worse stunts.
There really isn't a solution as simple as that, if there is a fair one at all. I appreciate you trying but I have already been through a lot of possibilities like this in my head. I can't think of any fair way of dealing with the problem.
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Well guys, for the majority of you the last round of matches is tomorrow. It's been a bit of a bumpy GTASL so far but I'd like it if everyone could participate tomorrow, even if you're not going to win your group. We've tried to make this a fun tournament, it was a very different idea compared to the previous GTASLs and me and Brulla have worked our socks off so far to try and make this as fair as possible, while still being entertaining.
Please provide feedback on your opinion of the GTASL, and the areas you think need worked on for future GTASLs.
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JUAN: Learn to fucking edit the first post next time you give a vote, I had to follow your arse in every match you voted in and edit the first post because you couldn't be arsed to!
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GOOD LUCK STUNTERS!!!
I like spicy tuna rolls *hint hint*
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Is there going to be a losers' round?
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Nope, you do have FIVE weeks to submit stunts, should be more than enough for anyone.
Making a little bit of progress on the GTASL4 video, just waiting on a couple more people to post their skins. This is the WIP of the intro:
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Awesome to see it VenomX
Kingjad: The league is being great, I don't have any idea of any ways to change it for better, the only problem that I saw here were the people that didn't show up on their matches
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Gah, I still have to the intro to the GTASL 3 It won't be as good as yours, just something simple.
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Good to see Venom,
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Well guys, for the majority of you the last round of matches is tomorrow. It's been a bit of a bumpy GTASL so far but I'd like it if everyone could participate tomorrow, even if you're not going to win your group. We've tried to make this a fun tournament, it was a very different idea compared to the previous GTASLs and me and Brulla have worked our socks off so far to try and make this as fair as possible, while still being entertaining.
Please provide feedback on your opinion of the GTASL, and the areas you think need worked on for future GTASLs.
Well for the next league maybe you could make the system even more similar to the one of the world cup (footy of course), so that not only one but two competitors from each group make it out for the playoffs.
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That probably will happen Magic - we plan not to have as many stunters compete in future. We will be a lot more strict on who gets to take part. No room for the no-shows like ZeroX, Yama, or those who dropped out (Dejv, you wee prick) plus a fair few more. So with those measures in place, the top two will likely advance for future GTASLs should me and Brulla still be in charge
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Sounds pretty good. I doubt I'm gonna enter the next tournament though. Anyway, approximately when will the playoff matches be posted? I hope it's on the first of june or later cus by then my summer holidays will have commenced.
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Probably on the 29th.
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Probably on the 29th.
Aiit.
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Alrighty then, time to rant my hairy Scottish nipples off.
The format this GTASL has been in is a first considering the set-up of the previous GTASLs. Nobody had actually done it as a league format before, so things like points suddenly meant a lot more. Because of a lot of obstacles, like the no-shows, drop-outs etc, we've had to think on our feet and try to adjust the rules as we went on. Suddenly, after the first week or two, we had to come up with how many points someone should get if their opponent doesn't even show - so even though we didn't cover that at the start of the GTASL, we thought on our feet and did what we thought was the fairest option, to award the stunter who showed up 4 automatic points while deducting two points from the no-show.
With more no-shows, some by BOTH participants in a match, things seemed to get stretched even more! We were thankful MOST in each section were being serious enough to keep things going. I did discuss the matter of a draw between two participants at the top, and mentioned it would be resolved by their head-to-head record, whoever came out on top of their match. At the time we were discussing WaRoW, Torque, All(Beast) and SORT's group, Group 11, and saying that if WaRoW and SORT ended up being tied that SORT would advance on a better head-to-head record.
We have given participants plenty of opportunity to try their damn best, giving extensions when needed and re-shuffling matches to suit those who were not available to compete. At times we are needing to make it up as we go along as new problems arise. What do you fucking expect? I ask everyone involved in this year's GTASL to please try your best, and let the organisers also do their best to keep the wheels in motion.
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Did I do good Kingjad?
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Maybe it has been asked, but I can't understand the half of Kingjad's posts
When will the SL continue? Will be there any break before the new matches posted?
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stop being whiny kingjad; it's happened in all previous stunt leagues and there isn't any reason why it wouldn't happen here.
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Its just unfortunate that it has more of an impact in this style of league.
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We RELY on people turning up for this more than the previous GTASLs. Before, if someone didn't turn up, the next person advanced, no points system to worry about. I still feel having it as a league format is far more exciting and entertaining but we were foolish to expect 72 stunters to keep their word and make sure to compete. Expect around half that for next GTASL should me and Brulla still be in charge.
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We RELY on people turning up for this more than the previous GTASLs. Before, if someone didn't turn up, the next person advanced, no points system to worry about. I still feel having it as a league format is far more exciting and entertaining but we were foolish to expect 72 stunters to keep their word and make sure to compete. Expect around half that for next GTASL should me and Brulla still be in charge.
D=
I wanna be a judge then. XD
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It's a long way away, so let's not worry about that for now. Let's try and get through the current GTASL first!
Btw, I'll say this right now - it'll be random selection who plays who in the knock-outs. I will generate 12 different numbers, 1-12, and the order they come out in, those will be the matches. I also plan to basically keep it like that, so for example:
4 vs 2
3 vs 12
11 vs 7
9 vs 10
1 vs 6
8 vs 5
If it is drawn out in that manner, and remember this is just an example, then for the round after that it would be:
4 or 2 vs 3 or 12
11 or 7 vs 9 or 10
1 or 6 vs 8 or 5
AND THAT WOULD MEAN the final would be whoever wins each of those 3 matches. 3-way final, baby! We're still coming up with more challengers, and trying to think of something special and unique for the grand final.
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OK, here's what we've decided for the knock-outs.
There are 5 judges now who will decide who gets the votes for the knock-out matches, the other 5 we're thankful to for their efforts during the group stages but the knock-outs are only 6 matches for one week, 3 matches the next week and then the final so we should be ok now.
We have hand-picked 9 cool and unused challenges specially for the knock-outs, so no random weird stunt challenges for a potentially big match.
There is no points system obviously, so first person with 3 votes advances.
It will be a 3-way final. 12 participants, one on one, that'll go down to 6 participants, meaning 3 different matches, winner of each advances to grind final where we have a super-special unique challenge.
If you don't show up for your match, the other person advances, wonderfully simple.
All decisions from the judges are final, if anyone has a problem with it then fuck off, nobody cares about you.
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Sounds terrific, fudman! I'm very excited about seeing who's up against who.
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You better all show up for your matches as well or the video gets more difficult for us. Just please turn up
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And remember, if for some reason you cannot compete, let us fucking know! The stunters who finished 2nd in their groups can take the place for you. But we must be informed before the match is to take place so we're all prepared.
I assume everyone will be fine though for those who advanced to the knock-outs, you made it this far so I'm sure you will all be eager for an opportunity for eternal glory
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The plan sounds good KJ, nice work you and the rest of the guys involved with judging/organisation. I'm looking forward to seeing these challenges, and what kind of the stuff the stunters can pull off!
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Okay people, the knockout phase starts this thursday, May 29th! We already know most of the advanced competitors, so get ready. We'll know the rest by tuesday/wednesday.
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When will be the next matches, of those who advanced?
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When will be the next matches, of those who advanced?
Check the post above yours...
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I'm goin to NYC on the 22nd of June. I hope this wont be a problem.
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Guess it depends if you lose or not how long for?
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Guess it depends if you lose or not how long for?
For one week. But the final should've been settled by the 22nd, right? Unless the submission time is longer.
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I think the deadline for the finale is exactly on the 22nd.
Shouldn't be a problem.
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Will the points count anyhow in the future? Or are they over?
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No more points mate. Best of 5 votes wins.
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OK, big post time.
The GTASL group stages are now all wrapped up. The winners of each group has been determined, and now we go from 70-odd to 12. Here are the winners of each group:
GROUP 1: cola
Can be considered something of a shock, considering Raskal and DJ Marchello were also in the group. But cola fully-earned his top spot, and he is now a couple of victories away from the grand final.
GROUP 2: RedX
The most controversial of groups, which ended with Daffy and RedX tying on points. Daffy and others were unhappy at what was my idea of deciding tie-breakers with a head-to-head record. But RedX has done remarkably well to even put up a fight against the current stunter of the year for GTAS, and will perhaps use his massive upset victory to give him the confidence to advance further.
GROUP 3: VenomX
The first of two New Breed members to advance to the knock-outs, VenomX secured top spot on the final day and saw off Helios and Mythic as both finished strongly. Will want to avoid any big-air challenges as creativity is his method of stunting.
GROUP 4: godson
The only USS member to advance, godson was something of a late entrant. A tight group as there was only seven points seperating four stunters, godson ended top by beating closest challenger DriZzly in the final round. With USS trying to get back on its feet godson will be eager to do his best to represent them, and will be pushing hard to get to the final.
GROUP 5: Mr.Magic
Was initially dubbed the 'group of death', but it turned into a head-to-head between Magic and Dannye. Dannye was the only ATS member in the GTASL this year and won the second GTASL in that spectacular final with Brainkiller a couple of years ago, but Mr.Magic has been pretty strong, and had secured top spot before the final week was due to commence. Will be hoping to avoid his fellow NB member VenomX!
GROUP 6: Luky
Will represent WH in the knock-outs by edging past a determined challenge from Ruchy. A stunter who has impressed on the big stages of sorts (he certainly has for recent community videos), he'll be eager to shine here too and get to the final at least.
GROUP 7: sony
A pretty tight group, with donfikeegd and Knapman pushing hard to try and pip sony to top spot. Even though sony lost his final match with donfikeegd, he still finished top anyway. Will be eager to cause an upset or two.
GROUP 8: arKy
A group which was ruined by people dropping out, it ended with 4 stunters slugging it out for top spot. arKy's previous result against Rod went a long way to securing top spot.
GROUP 9: Crazy
A thrilling group which was decided when Crazy's clean-sweep victory against Domovla in the final match put him level with Domovla on points, and with a better head-to-head record advances. Charnel also has a decent run of form and was unlucky not to do better.
GROUP 10: KIDwild
Without a doubt he is the outsider to win, but he has done very well to win a group with tough opponents like Souzuk and morbidxxx. He will want to raise more eyebrows with another victory or two. Definitely keep an eye on how he does.
GROUP 11: SORT
A group riddled with controversy: Torque was unhappy with All(Beast)'s postings claiming he would intentionally let SORT win in their final match together to make sure SORT would advance, giving Torque no chance. While All(Beast) did submit an entry nothing can be proved, so while Torque's frustrations are understandable we cannot deny SORT top spot which he earned through other wins such as him beating Torque and WaRoW, who both pushed hard too for top spot. SORT will want to make sure the controversy surrounding his achievement is left behind in the knock-outs.
GROUP 12: Tackleberry
With a maximum score, he will head into the knock-outs as favourite. The sole TMS representative, the other was also in Group 12, KillaMarci (ok, Nuc is in TMS as well, but joined after GTASL started hehe). Can combine creativity and 'big' stunts, but has yet to really be tested yet. The knock-outs will hopefully prove if he has what it takes to win the GTASL.
Congratulations to all 12, and I hope you are ready and dedicated to seeing this through to the very end.
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GO COLA FOR THE FUCKING WIN!!!!!!!!
oph wait, there's arKy aswell...
That's not fair, I won't cheer for anyone in there
EDIT:
Y'kno wat?
Go arKy, you haven't blocked me, yet
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Now this league will be more interesting
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sony you better win.
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Sweet's pathetic attempt at trying to salvage something from this GTASL by wishing to say 'At least I got my arse kicked by the eventual winner'?
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It's happened once before
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Well, goodness knows I've used the same line for the times Daffy destroyed me
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Okay folks, here's the match schedule for this thursday!
May 29th.
sony vs. arKy
VenomX vs. Mr.Magic
Luky vs. godson
SORT vs Tackleberry
KIDwild vs cola
RedX vs. Crazy
Better get ready guys.
Congratulations to all who made it through the first phase, great job!
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Haha, VenomX against Mr.Magic. Sucks to lose one those two though, my favorite stunters of the ones left.
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Crazy will own RedX.
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Sony vs arKy
US member vs Ex-US member
My first collab was with you Sony
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Okay folks, here's the match schedule for this thursday!
May 29th.
sony vs. arKy
VenomX vs. Mr.Magic
Luky vs. godson
SORT vs Tackleberry
KIDwild vs cola
RedX vs. Crazy
Better get ready guys.
Congratulations to all who made it through the first phase, great job!
I want to make sure everyone understands that the order this is in applies for the next round also.
sony or arKy VS VenomX or Mr.Magic
Luky or godson VS SORT or Tackleberry
KIDwild or cola VS RedX or Crazy
Things will get very interesting indeed.
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Shieet Lexus mayne... It'll be a bitch for Si as well. xD My last exam is tomorrow so hopefuly I'll have all the time in the world for this now. Ballin!
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i will own you guys
don't give question how
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Can someone just ban that guy already.
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Can someone just ban that guy already.
What he said.
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Fuck sake. Well that's gonna be a fun week for me...
Good luck everyone!
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Can someone just ban that guy already.
What he said.
Agree with both of you.
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He's gonna stay quiet for two weeks now.
Just move on with the actual GTASL related chit chat.
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I read (I think) that you will only use 5 judges from now. Which ones have been selected?
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Oooooooooh, interesting . Lets do this .
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I read (I think) that you will only use 5 judges from now. Which ones have been selected?
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Oh, yeah, really cool :/
A match against Tacko :s
I'll drop off first.
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Less you can do is do your best instead of being sure of losing. Everything can happen.
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Less you can do is do your best instead of being sure of losing. Everything can happen.
I hope so
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I read (I think) that you will only use 5 judges from now. Which ones have been selected?
I just want to know who to bribe...
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I read (I think) that you will only use 5 judges from now. Which ones have been selected?
Si säger (19:28): its me, TD, brulla, KJ and Docta
Si säger (19:28): or samurai
Get your bribe on.
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We only chose the judges which actually were active, and were happy to help out a lot.
The judges for the end of the league are:
Turtle Dick
Ofthemountain
Samurai
Kingjad
Brulla
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Crazy will own RedX.
Most likely, yes = /
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Stranger things have happened. Good luck everyone.
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Yeah like Daffy not making it this far.
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arky vs sony? That sound good
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Will be interesting, well yeah, I'll lose in first round But I'll try my best
And good luck, everybody! Till Thursday
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What's with the Daffy-RedX problem? Who will continue?
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RedX, read the topic.
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no,i wont
but thanks it's a big surprise
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COLA FTW!
That will be interesting
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The knockout matches will be posted within the next 2,5 hours!
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Damn.. GL dudes.
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Listen up people!
We have made slight changes in the match schedules. The second knockout round starts this friday, June 6th, instead of the 5th. Same thing will apply to the finale match, it will be held on friday, June 13th!
This will help us judge the matches in time.
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Ok, so we get a gap day.
Question: How many days are we gonna get for the next matches?
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I'm not completely sure but I'd guess you'll get 5 days again.
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OK then guys, we have our winners of the first knock-out matches. So these are the next set of matches, for a place in the grand final:
sony VS VenomX
Luky VS Tackleberry
cola VS RedX
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There will be 3 winners of theses matches. What's up then?
I'm looking forward to this match
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sony: As I've explained countless times before, the final will be between 3 stunters.
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Who all is blacklisted and how will you work out a three member 'finale'?
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how will you work out a three member 'finale'?
Very good question. Truthfully we're just hoping one guy kicks everyone's arse to hell and just wins flat-out haha. We're still trying to determine how we'd resolve this if it ended in a tie between two stunters, although logically a one-off extra match COULD be made up since we have no previous history to fall back on in terms of who has the upper hand...but aye, we're still discussing how best to solve anything problematic in the final.
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how will you work out a three member 'finale'?
Very good question. Truthfully we're just hoping one guy kicks everyone's arse to hell and just wins flat-out haha. We're still trying to determine how we'd resolve this if it ended in a tie between two stunters, although logically a one-off extra match COULD be made up since we have no previous history to fall back on in terms of who has the upper hand...but aye, we're still discussing how best to solve anything problematic in the final.
Ift two stunters get the same amount of votes you could just call in one of the reserve judges to make the decision. That's one way to do it at least.
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That 'reserve' judge might vote for the OTHER person and that could mean it's 2-2-2 lol. We're trying to work out a mathmatical solution to solve this
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That 'reserve' judge might vote for the OTHER person and that could mean it's 2-2-2 lol. We're trying to work out a mathmatical solution to solve this
First to 3 and adding judges until it's over?
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That means 7 judges maximum and there were 7 judges if I remember right.
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Who all is blacklisted and how will you work out a three member 'finale'?
Nice job ignoring the question Jad.
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That 'reserve' judge might vote for the OTHER person and that could mean it's 2-2-2 lol. We're trying to work out a mathmatical solution to solve this
Make it a draw
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Who all is blacklisted and how will you work out a three member 'finale'?
Nice job ignoring the question Jad.
There's several people on it. We will post it later on, it's not important at this time.
Congratulations to the winners of the first round! Well done!
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Krow: I didn't really ignore it, simply put I don't have a list made up. Brulla does I think. Guys like Yama, ZeroX, BoxXx, Cdarmy and several others who just no-showed without even bothering to warn us, are blacklisted. But I do not have full list so I can't answer properly.
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Oh and about that whole "blacklist"...
We simply mean by it that we are making a recommendation to the next GTASL organisers (whoever they might be), that if the format is going to be one that's depending on the competitors (like in this one), they shouldn't let the people who made promises in this league, but chose just to ignore the whole thing (or do something to harm the other competitors intentionally), therefore sabotaging the chances of some other competitors, in.
Simple as that.
As for you sony, the second round of the knockouts will start tomorrow, and the deadline is again 5 days.
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I thought (and I think you told it aswell) that you'll organize the next SL too
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We might guess we'll see how this one goes first.
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This was the best organized SL of all Everyone did his job awesomely
Really thank you for it guys..
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This was the best organized SL of all Everyone did his job awesomely
Really thank you for it guys..
true..
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Well can I suggest something with the next SL, don't try to make it unique and try different things. If the same formula worked with the first 3, then keep it. -.-
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That's a pretty bad attitude Krow. They have tried their best and in general it has been successful - everyone has got more matches, people who wouldn't get very far have been given a great chance to compete. If we stuck to the old way the whole time things would get boring, I think we should always try to change things, makes everything more fresh.
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Krow to organise GTASL5 - the most boring GTASL ever
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Go
(http://www.expertscholz.de/sony-Logo.jpg)
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Krow to organise GTASL5 - the most boring GTASL ever
Jad, I've never gotten the chance to organize anything, so nobody could say that.
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Step up then - do you want to organise GTASL5? Nobody confirmed yet, we're still trying to finish this. If you want something done that way, then step up and do it yourself. I really wanted to try the GTASL like this as I thought it was an interesting and exciting manner to have the competition in, and with a lot of help from Brulla and the other judges it's been fairly successful. Nobody offered me or Brulla anything, we just threw our names out there and people didn't object.
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When are you going to post the new matches?
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Later on today I believe. As soon as Brulla comes on I'm guessing.
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Oh, I've already PMed Kingjad...
Samurai told me that he's away till Monday, so I thought he won't be able to post the matches at this time.
Anyways, thank you.
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Hmmmm....
I'll do it gimme 10 minutes.
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I Kingjad
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am i out of the league?
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Joke of the year
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Right update time on the video.
Finished recording stunts for the group stage today! Will start working on that part of the video in the next few days. The intro is in progress but it's a complicated script so that's going to be going on for a while yet. We have all the skins we need now, thanks for that guys. We know the songs we will be using and have a general idea of how we want it to turn out. We're collecting the reps for the finals as it goes along and will record them all at once at a later time.
Great work so far guys, your stunts should make for a really enjoyable video .
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Only three 2 knockout round? I going be then 1vs1vs1
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I don't really understand you, but the 1vs1vs1 is true
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As Brulla stated in a different topic, the grand final between 3 stunters will have 3 different challenges. Judges will vote on who did best in each challenge, whoever has most votes wins.
In the even of a tie between two stunters a FOURTH challenge will be done between the two who tied.
The final will last 10 days, think it's gonna be posted on Friday.
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wait, wait...
if there's 3 challengers, then couldn't it be:
1st challenge: stunter A
2nd challenge: stunter B
3rd Challenge: stunter C
and then we would be right back to where we started.
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Not quite, Sweet.
There are five judges, remember, who will each give a vote on who they thought did best in each challenge. There IS a small possibility it'll be a tie between TWO, but we already have a plan for such a scenario.
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Okay guys! Only the grand finale left!
The grand finale will start this friday, friday the 13th!
VenomX vs. RedX vs. Tackleberry
Congratulations to the finalists.
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Video update by the way guys. The group stage part is near enough finished and the intro is into the final stages of making. Had some resposes from Beta watchers and it's looking good so far .
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Ah, nice news, you're so fast
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Edit.. Think you answered my question above Kingjad, sorry
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friday the 13th! nice!
triple threat!
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Congratulations VenomX, RedX and Tackleberry!
Good luck guys!