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GTA Series => Grand Theft Auto - IV => IV Chat & Support => Topic started by: Flat Face on April 03, 2008, 11:37:56 PM
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According to renowned video-game journalist Jason Hill (author of video-blog Screen Play), Rockstar has produced an edited version of Grand Theft Auto IV for Australia in order to obtain an MA15+ rating.
The Office of Film and Literature Classification gave the game an MA15+ rating on December 11 last year stating that the game contains "strong violence, strong coarse language, drug and sexual references".
Rockstar said to Screen Play that the game had been cut-down to comply with Australian classification standards, but wouldn’t reveal what exactly had been cut.
this sucks cunt... specially cause our ps3's wont take disc's from other countries
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It's still GTAIV. I'm happy.
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That's why I can't wait for it to come out on PC. I haven't got and won't be able to afford an xbox 360 or ps3 for some time. Pc can use any countries pretty much so woot. Still pissed about this though.
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Hmm, so we pay more for the game, we dont get as much now? This is just fucking bullshit. 2 editions - thats what we need...
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they can't release the original game because it is illegal in australia. We don't have an R18+ rating like america and other countries do.
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And what about making your ps3/xbox region free? That would make it possible to play foreign games right?
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yeeeees but that is kinda difficult to do. some of the ps3's (which cost $100-$200 more) can do multi-region.
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LOL
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LOL
lol?, LOL!? PENIS AT YOU!
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Our own version just for us, aren't we a lucky bunch
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dannye's australian?! Fuck yeah
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dannye's australian?! Fuck yeah
where have you been? lol.. hay, dannye, kan, dark, ZX, me , frost, ..maca... -_-...barney.. -_-....hex... -_-..... and more
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well I have been away from the site for over a year
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Well this is just disgusting and shows how backward my countries rating system is. I mean the average age of a gamer in Australia is 28. 10 years beyond the age of our non-existent 18+ rating for games. I am cancelling my pre-order now and finding a source in NZ or UK (other PAL regions) so I can get the game as it was intended. Fucking weak
EDIT: I am writing to my member of parliament
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^ Wouldn't that be illegal?
Yea this sucks
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of course it's not illegal... I can buy a movie in america before it's released here and it's not illegal.
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It is illegal for a store to sell a game. I reckon my order will slip through the mailing cracks no doubt
Oh here is what I wrote to my local MP
Dear Mr Thomson,
My name is Gerard Delaney and I live within your electorate in the suburb of Brunswick West. I am 22 years old and currently attending the University of Melbourne. In addition to University I also manage time for part time employment and recreational activities. I am aware that your duties in the public service are probably of more significance than what I am about to bring up but I do feel very strongly about this issue and feel the need to inform you of my concern. In addition to playing sport and going to watch live music performances I also enjoy playing video games in my spare time.
My concern is that our countries current rating system in not having a R18+ rating has become woefully out of date and no longer reflects the place that video games occupy in our society. The rapid development of video games that I have observed as I grew up has led to an industry today that is larger than that of the cinema. The new technologies employed in this medium are now capable of providing much more vivid experiences as well as telling more meaningful stories. This is similar to the development of technology in cinema where it moved from the display of simple visual illusions to the grand narratives we have come to know. I feel that the development of cinema as a storytelling medium was met with an understanding that it could tell stories that would cater to people with many different tastes and interests, one of which could result in a film being given a R18+ rating.
As an adult gamer I feel that games are now able to engage with me on levels that suit my own maturity. I have become aware just today that one game Grand Theft Auto IV from the developer Rockstar games will be edited for its Australian release because in its original version could not be given a MA15+ classification. I have eagerly awaited this game and have noticed from previews of the product that it has shown a story that is deeper and more engaging than what has been seen previous in the gaming industry. I feel that the lack of a R18+ rating in our country is preventing me from experiencing this game as its developers intended and is illustrative of our rating system being inadequate to provide for the gaming community whose average age in our country I have found to be twenty eight.
I feel strongly enough about this issue that I felt compelled to send you this correspondence. I hope that you will take my views into consideration should this issue ever come into your sphere of influence. My intention from this point onwards is to no longer purchase this game from my local store but instead seek out a copy of the game from overseas where I will be able to obtain an unedited version of Grand Theft Auto IV.
Thank you for taking the time to read this email
Regards,
Gerard Delaney
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you wanna know why we don't have an r18+ rating yet?
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No, I want to inform them that there are good reasons why we should have such a rating and that the reasons held at this point in time bely a lack of knowledge about gaming and the gaming community in Australia
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ah, but by having that opinion you are avoiding the fact that there are some extremely sick people in the world. If an R18+ rating was introduced into australia games which are released in america that depict women being raped would be allowed into australia. do you really want that here?
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I don't want that....but those kind of games don't get made. I am happy to give people that choice. It is not like a film where you can just point and shoot and game takes alot more to make. You are taking the simplistic view that employs scare tactics. I feel that I am using a real example where the rating system is shown to be inadequate.
I would like to see the specific games you speak of, I am speaking of adult stories and something that respects my maturity level. R18+ does not automatically mean vulgar. A game can still be refused to be rated if 18+ ratings do exist, its just we don't have anything beyond the maturity level of our MA15+ rating which is archaic
EDIT: If anyone is from a PAL region and can give me a good pre-order site for GTAIV please PM me
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That scenario has already played out in the US.. You don't watch the news do you? Also a lot of these games are flash games which greatly reduces the amount of time needed to make one. I personally do want an R18+ rating. I'm just telling you why it hasn't been introduced yet.
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Alien no offense but learn to think for yourself. I am not an avid gamer, however I do know that if I played an 18+ video game I would not be influenced only by that to go out and kill someone, nor would I expect anyone else to unless they had mental health problems.
Whatever bullshit they feed to you on the news is just a scapegoat to avoid really tackling the problems. Furthermore I believe that most of the cases of school shootings etc were comitted by people who were technically underage to play the game. If you really want to blame the game, blame the retailers who sell it to the underage children.
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That scenario has already played out in the US.. You don't watch the news do you? Also a lot of these games are flash games which greatly reduces the amount of time needed to make one. I personally do want an R18+ rating. I'm just telling you why it hasn't been introduced yet.
When I read the news, I read real news mate....not one day issues used to scare people. You think those flash games will come onto our shelves suddenly? Do you think if some sick bastard wanted to play that kind of crap they wouldn't already have found something on the internet...for free? I mean come on dude, have you not heard of newgrounds.com?
On a side note: If someone has those kind of urges...and that does it for them well hell. I do not care what anyone does as long as they don't hurt another human being....and last time I checked games do not hurt people
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Here is a competitive store that I have now got my new preorder organised through
http://www.gpstore.co.nz/ (http://www.gpstore.co.nz/)
Whilst I won't be able to get the $135 cost I had from the Australian preorder I am getting the proper version shipped from overseas and only paying 50cents more than a chump buying from a shop here
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The games don't hurt people but they do however push that one person over the edge. I don't really care about it. this is the reason that they haven't introduced an R18+ rating in australia yet and of course i've heard of newgrounds, i frequent it in fact.
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I'm 16 and play 18+ games , so?
IMO all of thoose age ratings are bullshit anyways. "OMG OMG I just killed a guy in this video game OMG I'm gonna go crazy and kill everyone out there . AAAAAHHH"
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You all misunderstood me. I was merely stating why they haven't give australia the R18+ rating. I completely disagree with the reasoning. I don't believe video games make people crazy. You all got that through your skulls? good.
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owned for teh aussies
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You all misunderstood me. I was merely stating why they haven't give australia the R18+ rating. I completely disagree with the reasoning. I don't believe video games make people crazy. You all got that through your skulls? good.
I think the main reason mate was because you failed to state each time that this was the reasoning that others were using and instead went on as if we were challenging your own point of view
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I mostly wrote things like: This is why it's not here and I completely disagree with their reasoning. I didn't say anywhere that I agreed with the ideas.
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Aussies need to be more like americans and not give a shit.
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I'm 16 and play 18+ games , so?
IMO all of thoose age ratings are bullshit anyways. "OMG OMG I just killed a guy in this video game OMG I'm gonna go crazy and kill everyone out there . AAAAAHHH"
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x2.. i guess i have to hope Krems letter works cause i know i can't do shit yet
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first off, i doubt krems letter will work, it isn't a big issue really and for it to work it will have to have support of thousands of other people so that the politicians even look at it.
And storm Australia is already like America and quite frankly a lot of Australians don't wanna end up like America, we don't wanna be the Fattest country, we don't want to be able to a court case when it is just so fucking ridiculous that even a child would say that it is bull shit.
Americans think every one likes them because "they are so cool and they have Hollywood, and gangsters and pimps and shit". but most of the world think that Americans are arrogant pricks.
So don't say Australia or any other country should be like America.
this is yet again another opinion of HeX.
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I agree with you hex. I do however think we should be allowed guns, I mean all the crims have guns. This gives them a major advantage over the general public. Fuck that for a joke. Also we DO have multi-region ps3's. Their the ones that are 80gb i think.
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first off, i doubt krems letter will work, it isn't a big issue really and for it to work it will have to have support of thousands of other people so that the politicians even look at it.
And storm Australia is already like America and quite frankly a lot of Australians don't wanna end up like America, we don't wanna be the Fattest country, we don't want to be able to a court case when it is just so fucking ridiculous that even a child would say that it is bull shit.
Americans think every one likes them because "they are so cool and they have Hollywood, and gangsters and pimps and shit". but most of the world think that Americans are arrogant pricks.
So don't say Australia or any other country should be like America.
this is yet again another opinion of HeX.
ha, your being more arrogant right now, and fucking generalizing like some stupid sack of shit.
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omfg the site doesn't work in australia anymore. FUCKING OFLC! FUCK YOU! I CONDEMNED YOU TO DEATH BY FALLING 360 YOU BITCHES!
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sweet, im only saying what the rest of the world is thinking and im the only one here who is man enough to tell you Americans it.
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i have to say... you and barney don't do a very good job of makin aus look good.. well barney, you backing him up is your only flaw
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how am i backing barney up on this?, he hasn't said anything about this, and i have talked to multiple people and they reckon the same.
and most of the people i know feel the same.
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And storm Australia is already like America and quite frankly a lot of Australians don't wanna end up like America, we don't wanna be the Fattest country, we don't want to be able to a court case when it is just so fucking ridiculous that even a child would say that it is bull shit.
Americans think every one likes them because "they are so cool and they have Hollywood, and gangsters and pimps and shit". but most of the world think that Americans are arrogant pricks.
So don't say Australia or any other country should be like America.
You sir can go fuck yourself. Don't base EVERYTHING on what you see on the internet or tv. Yes we may act like assholes but guess what, so does the whole fucking world. And america isn't the "fattest" country, there is no such thing, so really shut the hell up. What I ment by americans not giving a shit is that they havn't watered down or done anything of the sort that I remember for a LONG time. (I think they did something about manhunt 2, but thats prolly only cause they wanted it on store shelves) And honestly, most americans that have any goddamn sense HATE all the bullshit from hollywood, so-called-gangstas, and pimps. So really, shut up about shit you know nothing about.
I talk to frost ALOT and learn alot about how bullshit AUS is, how their internet sucks, and alot of shit. The aus government shouldn't worry about a damn game and get it's fucking priorities straight.
Now lets get back on topic, if you wanna continue this debate you can do it via PM or msn, although i'm prolly done with it now. Bye.
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I talk to frost ALOT and learn alot about how bullshit AUS is, how their internet sucks, and alot of shit. The aus government shouldn't worry about a damn game and get it's fucking priorities straight.
Now lets get back on topic, if you wanna continue this debate you can do it via PM or msn, although i'm prolly done with it now. Bye.
well if frost tells you that then he's a faggot. I can't get the best internet yet my internet is still pretty damn awesome. Australia is one of the safest countries in the world. The downside of australia is that the judicial system sucks. America has a better judicial system but way more people which isn't good. I personally think we should allow guns in australia but a lot of people disagree with me on that. Don't you dare fucking diss australia. We should get our priorities right? america is the country that's about to go into a fucking depression so don't tell me our priorities are out of wack. fix your economy bitch.
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And storm Australia is already like America and quite frankly a lot of Australians don't wanna end up like America, we don't wanna be the Fattest country, we don't want to be able to a court case when it is just so fucking ridiculous that even a child would say that it is bull shit.
Americans think every one likes them because "they are so cool and they have Hollywood, and gangsters and pimps and shit". but most of the world think that Americans are arrogant pricks.
So don't say Australia or any other country should be like America.
You sir can go fuck yourself. Don't base EVERYTHING on what you see on the internet or tv. Yes we may act like assholes but guess what, so does the whole fucking world. And america isn't the "fattest" country, there is no such thing, so really shut the hell up. What I ment by americans not giving a shit is that they havn't watered down or done anything of the sort that I remember for a LONG time. (I think they did something about manhunt 2, but thats prolly only cause they wanted it on store shelves) And honestly, most americans that have any goddamn sense HATE all the bullshit from hollywood, so-called-gangstas, and pimps. So really, shut up about shit you know nothing about.
I talk to frost ALOT and learn alot about how bullshit AUS is, how their internet sucks, and alot of shit. The aus government shouldn't worry about a damn game and get it's fucking priorities straight.
Now lets get back on topic, if you wanna continue this debate you can do it via PM or msn, although i'm prolly done with it now. Bye.
lets not make this a race war.. and hex i ment in general.. but putting storm on the spot.. do you think you won the Vietnam war?
other americans do.. apparently its what your taught
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^lol
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kr3mlin, wouldnt u have to write to the federal government bout that seeing as how it would be a national issue?... news wouldn't affect me anyway. don't have a ps3 or xbox360 and if it does come out on pc my comp can't handle it and if it does run it torrents ftw ...
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And storm Australia is already like America and quite frankly a lot of Australians don't wanna end up like America, we don't wanna be the Fattest country, we don't want to be able to a court case when it is just so fucking ridiculous that even a child would say that it is bull shit.
Americans think every one likes them because "they are so cool and they have Hollywood, and gangsters and pimps and shit". but most of the world think that Americans are arrogant pricks.
So don't say Australia or any other country should be like America.
You sir can go fuck yourself. Don't base EVERYTHING on what you see on the internet or tv. Yes we may act like assholes but guess what, so does the whole fucking world. And america isn't the "fattest" country, there is no such thing, so really shut the hell up. What I ment by americans not giving a shit is that they havn't watered down or done anything of the sort that I remember for a LONG time. (I think they did something about manhunt 2, but thats prolly only cause they wanted it on store shelves) And honestly, most americans that have any goddamn sense HATE all the bullshit from hollywood, so-called-gangstas, and pimps. So really, shut up about shit you know nothing about.
I talk to frost ALOT and learn alot about how bullshit AUS is, how their internet sucks, and alot of shit. The aus government shouldn't worry about a damn game and get it's fucking priorities straight.
Now lets get back on topic, if you wanna continue this debate you can do it via PM or msn, although i'm prolly done with it now. Bye.
lets not make this a race war.. and hex i ment in general.. but putting storm on the spot.. do you think you won the Vietnam war?
other americans do.. apparently its what your taught
nobody I know, or any of the people in our school, think that we won the vietnam war. So shut the fuck up, you fucking bastard. Countries all have their sore spots, but why do you have to keep jumping down america's throat? Did I miss the announcement of insult america day?
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a simple no im not and no body i know is that dumb woulda done nicely i guess its mainly the older gen's .. the ones who where alive duering the .. neo 8D maybe neo thinks that? *i just really wana find and tease someone who thinks that lol* .. but neo doesn't seem like the miss informed type
ohwell.. back to how AUSTRALIA and its gaming system sucks now
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amazing how fast a war can break out.. hmm :/ but im going to be honest here, australia is pretty fat aswell, just because america is bigger and theres lots more fat people, we're almost the same, we're alot smaller but have like the same % of fat here, so yeah. ( i am australian )
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kr3mlin, wouldnt u have to write to the federal government bout that seeing as how it would be a national issue?... news wouldn't affect me anyway. don't have a ps3 or xbox360 and if it does come out on pc my comp can't handle it and if it does run it torrents ftw ...
My local member is the one who is a member of parliament (and from labour so in governement) When I said local member I referred to the member that represents my area at a federal level
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I'm american and I'm not fat And I feel sorry for you Australian people that sucks since we're not stupid enough to go out and shoot someone because we saw a 3d image do it...
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that sucks since we're not stupid enough to go out and shoot someone because we saw a 3d image do it...
um..? *this post just points out the WTF of that post*
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Hey kr3m, did you get a response back yet.
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I'm american and I'm not fat And I feel sorry for you Australian people that sucks since we're not stupid enough to go out and shoot someone because we saw a 3d image do it...
Omg Hawk please tell me your not serious. You would ahve to be fucking retarded to think that.
Timeline: US school shootings
October 2007: A teenage gunman reportedly shoots and wounds five people at a high school in Cleveland, Ohio, before killing himself.
April 2007: At least 32 people are killed in two shooting incidents in the campus of Virginia Tech university in Virginia.
October 2006: A 32-year-old gunman shoots dead at least five girls at an Amish school in Pennsylvania, before killing himself
September 2006: Gunman in Colorado shoots and fatally wounds a teenage schoolgirl, then kills himself; two days later a teenager kills the headteacher of a school in Cazenovia, Wisconsin
November 2005: Student in Tennessee shoots dead an assistant principal and wounds two other administrators
March 2005: Minnesota schoolboy kills nine, then shoots himself
May 2004: Four people injured in shooting at a school in Maryland
April 2003: Teenager shoots dead head-teacher at a Pennsylvania school, then kills himself
March 2001: Pupil opens fire at a school in California, killing two students
February 2000: Six-year-old girl shot dead by classmate in Michigan
November 1999: Thirteen-year-old girl shot dead by a classmate in New Mexico
May 1999: Student injures six pupils in shoot-out in Georgia
April 1999: Two teenagers shoot dead 12 students and a teacher before killing themselves at Columbine School in Colorado
June 1998: Two adults hurt in shooting by teenage student at high school in Virginia
May 1998: Fifteen-year-old boy shoots himself in the head after taking a girl hostage
May 1998: Fifteen-year-old shoots dead two students in school cafeteria in Oregon
April 1998: Fourteen-year-old shoots dead a teacher and wounds two students in Pennsylvania
March 1998: Two boys, 11 and 13, kill four girls and a teacher in Arkansas
December 1997: Fourteen-year-old boy kills three students in Kentucky
October 1997: Sixteen-year-old boy stabs mother, then shoots dead two students at school in Mississippi, injuring several others
Yea were much smarter than the Aussies.We Wouldn't do something like that.....
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I'm american and I'm not fat And I feel sorry for you Australian people that sucks since we're not stupid enough to go out and shoot someone because we saw a 3d image do it...
Omg Hawk please tell me your not serious. You would ahve to be fucking retarded to think that.
Timeline: US school shootings
October 2007: A teenage gunman reportedly shoots and wounds five people at a high school in Cleveland, Ohio, before killing himself.
April 2007: At least 32 people are killed in two shooting incidents in the campus of Virginia Tech university in Virginia.
October 2006: A 32-year-old gunman shoots dead at least five girls at an Amish school in Pennsylvania, before killing himself
September 2006: Gunman in Colorado shoots and fatally wounds a teenage schoolgirl, then kills himself; two days later a teenager kills the headteacher of a school in Cazenovia, Wisconsin
November 2005: Student in Tennessee shoots dead an assistant principal and wounds two other administrators
March 2005: Minnesota schoolboy kills nine, then shoots himself
May 2004: Four people injured in shooting at a school in Maryland
April 2003: Teenager shoots dead head-teacher at a Pennsylvania school, then kills himself
March 2001: Pupil opens fire at a school in California, killing two students
February 2000: Six-year-old girl shot dead by classmate in Michigan
November 1999: Thirteen-year-old girl shot dead by a classmate in New Mexico
May 1999: Student injures six pupils in shoot-out in Georgia
April 1999: Two teenagers shoot dead 12 students and a teacher before killing themselves at Columbine School in Colorado
June 1998: Two adults hurt in shooting by teenage student at high school in Virginia
May 1998: Fifteen-year-old boy shoots himself in the head after taking a girl hostage
May 1998: Fifteen-year-old shoots dead two students in school cafeteria in Oregon
April 1998: Fourteen-year-old shoots dead a teacher and wounds two students in Pennsylvania
March 1998: Two boys, 11 and 13, kill four girls and a teacher in Arkansas
December 1997: Fourteen-year-old boy kills three students in Kentucky
October 1997: Sixteen-year-old boy stabs mother, then shoots dead two students at school in Mississippi, injuring several others
Yea were much smarter than the Aussies.We Wouldn't do something like that.....
i can see exXxactly how this is gona turn out... america sides with new zealand.. australia sides wth canada,, world war 3.2 begines...
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yeah what the fuck we're ants compared to what happens in america, dont know how u cant see that, and flatface, we are friends with new zealand though? so its like Australia, NZ, and Canada vs America
anyway, back to GTA, even tho its not gonna be as good as the america version, i probably wouldnt notice anything because it will be such a sweet game, and not far away like 2 weeks now isnt it?
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*imports game* oh right gotta add something else *hides from mum* she said if i buy it she's going to take it off me. fuck that... I'm 16 for fucks sake.
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id be pissed if my mum wouldnt let me get some games, fuckin hell.
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yeah what the fuck we're ants compared to what happens in america, dont know how u cant see that, and flatface, we are friends with new zealand though? so its like Australia, NZ, and Canada vs America
anyway, back to GTA, even tho its not gonna be as good as the america version, i probably wouldnt notice anything because it will be such a sweet game, and not far away like 2 weeks now isnt it?
thats the point lol.. the world seems to be getting weirder and weirder.. so even tho we share an army with NZ its whats going to happen.. and yeah im thinking about importing it.. EXCEPT! i don't have any way of doing it.. my mum doesn't let me buy shit over the net
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Hey kr3m, did you get a response back yet.
Dear Gerard
Thank you for your email.
I have forwarded it to the Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy for comment.
I'll be in touch again when I receive a response.
Regards
Kelvin Thomson MP
Member for Wills
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Well, at least they replied Hope for good response then, Though it might be a 1% chance O_o
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I didn't really expect anything, kind of pleased that someone is aware of it and will help contribute to the opinion (and following decisions) in some small way
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Its a start atleast! If this gets into media they might look into the topic again, personally I think the politicians are taking too much time for everything.
When new laws are made, they are like 5 years behind - ATLEAST...
I m looking for a job in the game industry - and guess what? There is not even a job description for that in germany, nor there are schools for it... so all I do is wasting time now until I m done with my 13 must-have school years so I can try to find a company after that.
Its not only with jobs though, the whole informatics/technical thing isn't really described yet.
In germany, for example, we don't even have any laws about illegal downloading yet as far as I know (Which means its "stealing" in general and the authors can charge a fine which is way too high).
Its horrible...
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Australians think every one likes them because "they are so cool and they have Vegemite, and kangaroos and koala bears and shit". but most of the world think that Australians are boomerang fuckers.
So don't say America or any other country should be like Australia.
lulz but srsly i heard aus is full of wiggers and you dont have taco bell so that sucks for you
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Australians think every one likes them because "they are so cool and they have Vegemite, and kangaroos and koala bears and shit". but most of the world think that Australians are boomerang fuckers.
So don't say America or any other country should be like Australia.
lulz but srsly i heard aus is full of wiggers and you dont have taco bell so that sucks for you
Thanks for the generalization mate...sweeping and all encompassing . I am going to assume "most of the world" is your way of backing up a point of view that has no real basis in reality. There are ways I feel Australia might be superior to America and I am sure there are ways you feel that America is better as well. If I were to say that America should be like Australia I would not be assuming to take away what makes America unique just what that is does need improving
I don't claim to know alot about America but I do have the point of view of someone looking from the outside and there are some screwed up things that seem to happen in that big old superpower of a country
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considering HeX was serious and i wasnt makes me lol at that post
i just stated every stereotype of australia that i could think of which is exactly what hex did
tbh i would do anything i could to get out of the us we're the laughing stock of the whole god damn world, i have nothing against aus :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:)
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Use smileys next time...please
EDIT: Just got an email about my preorder from the NZ store. They are getting the shipment of the Australian version of the game and have assumed I would not want to get it from them anymore. The problem is even if I chose to try get the game from elsewhere I have automatically lost my special edition since they are almost impossible to get online now
Fucking rating system blues
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damn that sucks ass.. so its best to just pre order the aus version now or..?
and we used to have taco bell sept .. it kinda sucked
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I can't get a special edition anymore....but I have found a place that will give me the standard edition AUS for $100 Australian and I get the extra Xbox live points and gamer pics plus they ship it 2 days prior to release so I might get it early.
Still fucking pissed off since the special edition has sold out everywhere here as far as I can find
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I can't get a special edition anymore....but I have found a place that will give me the standard edition AUS for $100 Australian and I get the extra Xbox live points and gamer pics plus they ship it 2 days prior to release so I might get it early.
Still fucking pissed off since the special edition has sold out everywhere here as far as I can find
when i go down into parra next, i'll ask em. i usally stay the fuck away but.. im willing to make a sacrifice for gta
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personally, i dont think another fat making machine should come to australia, we already have mcdonalds, hungry jacks (thats burger king) and heaps of other smaller companies. the only thing better than a home cooked meal nowadays that it costs less to buy take away, food costs so damn much its ridiculous. so thats not a very good point. and i havnt had vegemite for years and i highly doubt someone would say we are cool because of vegemite lol i told my mum to preorder it today but i dunno if she has yet so hope i still can get myself a copy :/
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^You should be able to get a copy of the standard edition easy enough on predorder...the special edition would be hard to find I reckon
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EzyGames still has the special edition listed (at $135), and it 'looks' like you can still order it from there... I dunno though (I don't have an account with them so I can't go past the 'add to basket' stage)... You would think that if they were already out of orders for it then they would say so somewhere...
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Thank god we have tacobell. that stuff tastes like crap -.- *whimpers* I want teh gta IV...
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EzyGames still has the special edition listed (at $135), and it 'looks' like you can still order it from there... I dunno though (I don't have an account with them so I can't go past the 'add to basket' stage)... You would think that if they were already out of orders for it then they would say so somewhere...
All good pre-ordered the special edition Thanks dude
I just hope the site that I got the standard edition from will let me cancel the order...they charged my card straight away which seems weird