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GTA Series => Grand Theft Auto - Vice City => VC Tutorials => Topic started by: RedX on March 15, 2008, 08:52:04 PM

Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: RedX on March 15, 2008, 08:52:04 PM
No big fuzz, it's just that I'm organizing a grab collaboration so I thought I would make sure everyone knows how to do these.

The stunts suck, since I didn't want to waste any great ones on this puny project. I did them while I was editing, except for the last two.


- LQ FileFront Download - (http://files.filefront.com/Grab+Tutorialwmv/;9826349;/fileinfo.html)
- YouTube Link - (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EVWw5br-tRA)
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Raskal on March 15, 2008, 10:51:32 PM
very cool I'll probably give it a try being a grab fan myself
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: hachi on March 15, 2008, 10:53:40 PM
Nice tutorial
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Flat Face on March 15, 2008, 10:58:57 PM
Quote from: RasKaL
very cool I'll probably give it a try being a grab fan myself

get a girlfriend -_-.. lol


i coulda really used this a while back
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: UtterGarbage on March 15, 2008, 11:02:26 PM
hmm seems useful but i find grabs to be nire luck rather skill
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: HeX on March 15, 2008, 11:31:33 PM
im not a fan of grabs but cool none the less
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: FIGHTER on March 15, 2008, 11:31:56 PM
cool man your are the grabmaster
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: HeaT on March 16, 2008, 12:05:07 AM
VC Grab Master !  
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Dejv on March 16, 2008, 01:36:21 AM
awesome !
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: THEFTman on March 16, 2008, 02:03:22 AM
Most of the grabs failed btw. If you put those into the video it won't own at all.

Failed grabs are those where Tommy gets on the bike while on the ground. The Grab must be as fast as possible to be performed in mid air.
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: WaRoW on March 16, 2008, 02:14:42 AM
nice
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Kasha666 on March 16, 2008, 03:22:43 AM
awesome tutorial
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Ed on March 16, 2008, 04:04:19 AM
Perfect tutorial. I'll try this grabs for sure.
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: RedX on March 16, 2008, 07:28:52 AM
Quote from: UtterGarbage
hmm seems useful but i find grabs to be nire luck rather skill

Most difficult stunts are luck.. Anyway you're COMPLETELY correct, how the bike goes in some of these is "totally random" as I said in the tutorial

Quote from: THEFTman
Most of the grabs failed btw. If you put those into the video it won't own at all.

Failed grabs are those where Tommy gets on the bike while on the ground. The Grab must be as fast as possible to be performed in mid air.

I already wrote that I did all but two of these grabs while editing the tutorial, and they suck (except for the last one which was from OWA ).

But there is definitely a difference of opinion here, my thought about grabs isn't that they HAVE to be done in air or whatever, my only demand is that they look cool, there is lots of movement, and it's creative, new and impressive. Maybe I'll manage to change your mind next time I see you on msn I'll send you a Drop Bump Red Grab that I did.

I know you're critical to these new kinda grabs, and it's not by the book and all. but truth is that they can be more creative (seen that it's two parts instead of one. like instead of enter/exit to make an animation of tommy and the bike together, you get the bike to do a sweet animation on it's own and throw yourself on at the end, also often you get a cool animation at the end too).
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Domovla on March 16, 2008, 09:28:37 AM
the red grab fails..
the front grab was kinda nice but not for a vid
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: RedX on March 16, 2008, 09:36:40 AM
There is no good, there is no bad, just perspective and opinion, I'm gonna put that in my sig now ^^

Let me just put this simple. These grabs are VERY BASIC, it's just so that you guys get the concept. It's up to each of you to push the limits. I won't accept any grabs of this caliber into the grab collab. I have grabs I consider mind-blowing to some, but why the fuck would I waste them on this tutorial
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Demonfade on March 16, 2008, 02:45:55 PM
This isn't new.
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Hoff on March 16, 2008, 03:05:39 PM
That flatbed grab was epic.
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Knapman on March 16, 2008, 03:31:33 PM
Quote from: Demonfade
This isn't new.
woot, he knows it.

plus congrats on THEFTman and Domovla for finding that these are fail.
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: finallight on March 16, 2008, 03:33:11 PM
Don't rename stuff after yourself. Your so called red grab is nothing new, it's called a crashgrab, I think. It's been done mostly in SA, but it's been done in VC too. The front grab isn't new either, if you didn't know. The grabs in the vid were nice looking and it was a nice tutorial if anyone was clueless about how to do these grabs, but still don't try to name stuff after yourself, especially if it's old.
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: RedX on March 16, 2008, 03:41:52 PM
Quote from: finallight
Don't rename stuff after yourself. Your so called red grab is nothing new, it's called a crashgrab, I think. It's been done mostly in SA, but it's been done in VC too. The front grab isn't new either, if you didn't know. The grabs in the vid were nice looking and it was a nice tutorial if anyone was clueless about how to do these grabs, but still don't try to name stuff after yourself, especially if it's old.

Wow, now I'm really sorry. I have never heard of a crash grab. I don't play SA maybe that's why. And the grabs in this video weren't nice looking compared to most of what I do. For the third time now I did all of them in like 2-3 mins each while editing and wmm was running, that's also why it lagged.
I think I'm going to re-edit or maybe even do the whole thing over again with some kickass grabs to prove my point that crash grabs can be fucking awesome  I'm removing the tutorial from YouTube as soon as I can make a new one, but I'm going away this week so for now I'll be pounding faulty name information into your heads ^^

@ Knapman please drop the attitude, there's something called constructive criticism, use it. I've seen you badly flaming people at many occasions, writing go kill yourself or whatever, it really pisses me off, stop right away.

@ finallight, I can imagine crash grab is when you lean back to that angle and bail. I jump off, shouldn't that be considered different?

I'll ask to have this topic deleted in a week, and create a new one for the new/modified tutorial. But for now I'll have it here to make sure people learn the
"Red Ground Grab" [ I'll come up with a new name if it doesn't already exist plz respond ]
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Pendji on March 16, 2008, 03:48:54 PM
what should RAD's been called then.. ?
'TAP LIKE A FAG' method
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: RedX on March 16, 2008, 03:55:19 PM
TLAF method ^^ works for me xD aw RAD sounds cool.. I thought it was short for Radical when I started.
Seriously though, I think Red Grab sounds fine, but suggestions for other names are appreciated, but crash grab I will not accept, because you don't bail, you jump off at the end.
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Tackleberry on March 16, 2008, 04:16:05 PM
Well you really do nice and creative grabs, but to me those looked like different types of delayed grabs. I'm not thinking it's a method people will find special and giving it a name doesn't feel right.

I like how they looked though, looking forward for that grab vid.
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: RedX on March 16, 2008, 04:22:16 PM
Quote from: Tackleberry
Well you really do nice and creative grabs, but to me those looked like different types of delayed grabs. I'm not thinking it's a method people will find special and giving it a name doesn't feel right.

I like how they looked though, looking forward for that grab vid.

Thanks for the kind words but these are leftovers and shits, add me to msn and I'll show you something people will find special
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Emperatris on March 17, 2008, 08:18:49 AM
Nice tutorial  Thanks
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Jay on March 18, 2008, 07:06:48 AM
Your really good at grabs
But i don't see the point of a tut on somthing thats pure luck and chance
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Shifftee on March 18, 2008, 08:28:02 AM
03:10  
pretty nice grabs as specially the front ones  GJ
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Sucker on March 20, 2008, 07:56:33 PM
wow awesome grab tut.

ill try it.
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: jessrocked on March 22, 2008, 06:19:25 AM
ooh.. nice tut gud luck =)

Quote from: cola
Your really good at grabs
But i don't see the point of a tut on somthing thats pure luck and chance


everything about gta stunting is luck and chances, referring to the hard stunts only..
you try and try until you get it, which are in fact luck and chances
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Enough on March 22, 2008, 06:52:25 AM
Great !!
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Turtle Boy on March 24, 2008, 04:03:22 PM
Quote from: THEFTman
Most of the grabs failed btw. If you put those into the video it won't own at all.

Failed grabs are those where Tommy gets on the bike while on the ground. The Grab must be as fast as possible to be performed in mid air.

I agree, and there is no reason to call these Red Grabs. people have done them before you, I dunno I dont think its right you just claim it.
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: RedX on March 24, 2008, 05:08:04 PM
I totally understand, maybe we should come up with suggestions for names and vote on it or something.
In my defense I was going to name them Independent Grabs, but I felt it was too long and it would be " IGG " and such and I thought it sounded bad. So I thought of naming it something shorter and thought Red Grab would be okey, and RGG sounds better imo.

And to reply to accusing this type of grab to be fail is ridiculous, the grabs shown in the tutorial are real stinkers so that you see how to perform the basics. I wouldn't use any of these in a video (except the last one which I used in OWA). You can easily do Red Grabs in air, f.ex RGG2FG contains alot more movement than a normal grab, seen that it's a two part animation and the bike usually goes nuts  If you guys don't believe me I'll be happy to show you on msn.
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: jessrocked on March 27, 2008, 04:35:16 AM
i think u can claim it as yours, until someone proves u that he was the first one to do it.. like a proof, a replay or a clip for instance.

i also have a new grenade grab  its modded though (vehicle no damage)  its considerable i think
anyways, naming it would be unnecessary though..its up to you
if i were to name a grab, i would name it according to the position, angle or anything that best describes the stunt.
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: RedX on March 27, 2008, 08:03:56 AM
Okey, let's get this straight. I'm not claiming anything else than the "RGG"..
And that's a spin off of the "crash grab" in SA. like fl said. My point is that I honestly think that I'm the first one who did that in vc. so I'd like it to be called Red Ground Grab RGG. And for the other stuff. let's compromise and call them "Two Part Grabs" TPG. Because like Jessrocked says that's the best way to describe it. Don't confuse these with Delay Grabs.

Any complaints?
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Knapman on March 31, 2008, 06:03:08 PM
i doubt you were the first to do it, probably to release it, we've all jumped off our bikes and started running towards them to try and get on them.
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Laketown on March 31, 2008, 06:16:07 PM
I actually did something like that first grab in a PS2 vid back in 2005, but it was in the credits as I didn't think it was good enough for the main vid
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: FIGHTER on March 31, 2008, 07:00:40 PM
I did this in 1 of my first video's.........
also dude we havent named any methode to a stunter   except RAD I think...........
if you want to see it let me know
Title: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: RedX on April 01, 2008, 06:22:10 AM
sure

also I won't take credit for this, I thought it was new, and it wasn't. Stop flaming me everybody xD but it still didn't have a name
So I've been calling it two-part grabs,

any objections?

@ Sweet: You'll see in the new video
@ Knapman: I just taught you guys how to do it right. f.ex the first grab in this tut I can do approx 10 times in a row before failing, each one of you have to realize how you're supposed to exploit it properly.

Also I'd like to show you some grabs Knapman  You've been bitching about this a long time. I just want to show you some grabs that will prob. be in the vid
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Title: Re: Red Grab & Front Grab Tutorial
Post by: Raising on December 01, 2009, 04:04:25 PM
Can someone make this one again please?   :hmm:
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