GTAStunting
GTA Series => Grand Theft Auto - San Andreas => SA Un-Modded Video Releases => Topic started by: FoX`MaSteR on February 15, 2008, 09:35:32 AM
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All explications are in the video,
watch this and try to understand
Link:
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=qcEMO4Mm1bc (http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=qcEMO4Mm1bc)
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Watching.
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Yea , that seemt pretty professional but I'll still stunt with FL OFF
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I'm happy with FL pff, because FL on gives me 15fps because of my shit PC and i HATE lag lol
with FL off i at least get 30-35 fps lol
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Yeah. Well done FoX MaSteR. But to me and most of the others it always have been clear that FL off makes it easier and that actually is the reason why they stunt FL off I guess. I mean: Isn't it senseless to stunt with FL on althought nearly everything in stunting depends on luck and you know that you would save a lot of your time with FL off? I'd personally stunt FL off, but I got a very unstable framerate above 25fps so my replays are looking not so good. But seriously, what makes it bad to stunt FL off? I don't see the reason.
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watching
EDIT: FL OFF is cheat?
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I don't understand why shouldn't we use an option of the game, it's included in the game itself, it's not an external program.. And in PS2 version I think we play with more than 25 fps..
What's the point of having a very good comp if it's for freezing the fps to 25..
Stunt for fun, not for competition, if the FL on users think that's it's injustice, then they can turn it off.. nobody oblige us to stunt @ 25fps
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But seriously, what makes it bad to stunt FL off? I don't see the reason.
Cause it make the replays look like crap?
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Well done dude
As i said above, because of my not very good PC, i get about 15 fps FL on, and when i record dunno maybe minus 5-10 FPS lol, i don't wanna sit for ages and record with 5-10 FPS
I don't understand why shouldn't we use an option of the game, it's included in the game itself, it's not an external program.. And in PS2 version I think we play with more than 25 fps..
What's the point of having a very good comp if it's for freezing the fps to 25..
Stunt for fun, not for competition, if the FL on users think that's it's injustice, then they can turn it off.. nobody oblige us to stunt @ 25fps
Can't agree more
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But seriously, what makes it bad to stunt FL off? I don't see the reason.
Cause it make the replays look like crap?
Not for everyone.
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But seriously, what makes it bad to stunt FL off? I don't see the reason.
Cause it make the replays look like crap?
Yea that's IMO the only downside of it. Maybe someone can make a fix for it?
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I dont tell about better or worst, it's just sad for the lagy players who must use fl-on, do you understand?
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But seriously, what makes it bad to stunt FL off? I don't see the reason.
Cause it make the replays look like crap?
You only land higher stunts because your pc is better?
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btw. Your calculations about height aren't correct, plus less gravity because of fl off = even higher than your calcs.
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I dont tell about better or worst, it's just sad for the lagy players who must use fl-on, do you understand?
Who said that they MUST use fl on?
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for me the replay done with fl-off lag by moment or crash my cpu
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But seriously, what makes it bad to stunt FL off? I don't see the reason.
Cause it make the replays look like crap?
Yea that's IMO the only downside of it. Maybe someone can make a fix for it?
That's impossible you screwdriver.
The replay would still look like crap because the crap looking is caused by the variation of fps.
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But seriously, what makes it bad to stunt FL off? I don't see the reason.
Cause it make the replays look like crap?
You only land higher stunts because your pc is better?
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btw. Your calculations about height aren't correct, plus less gravity because of fl off = even higher than your calcs.
That's an option which is avaivable for everyone.
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Maybe instead of trying to limit our possibilities (FL on) we should try to push boundries and the limits of stunting? I'm not at all supporting either side of the argument, I stunt FL on or off, depends what I feel like.
Just another idea thrown into the mix, watching.
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I dont tell about better or worst, it's just sad for the lagy players who must use fl-on, do you understand?
Who said that they MUST use fl on?
if you lag you cant play fl-off
Fl-on stunters cant reach some building
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But seriously, what makes it bad to stunt FL off? I don't see the reason.
Cause it make the replays look like crap?
You only land higher stunts because your pc is better?
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btw. Your calculations about height aren't correct, plus less gravity because of fl off = even higher than your calcs.
That's an option which is avaivable for everyone.
Are you dumb?
Put it this way:
Guy 1: 25fps 100ft bump.
Guy 2: (average guy with fl off) 40-60fps 130ft
Guy 3: (guy with amazing pc) 150-200fps 200ft
Now imagine you are guy 2 and you spend 5 hours trying a bump and guy 3 comes along and lands it in 5 minutes time because he has a better pc.
THEREFORE FL off is not EVEN or FAIR.
But it will be continued to be used and continue to be accepted so there's no point in even arguing about it.
Stunt however you like aslong as you have fun, but don't spew bullshit like "fl off is even and it's fair because everyone has the option"
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You can't really create a good stable fps amount because it depends on the texture and the models around you.
I still don't care. I will stunt FL: Off. If you're just jealous because you got a crappy PC, then buy a better one...
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I play Fl OFF and have 40-60 frames in second. It's a lot of frames? NO... soiemtimes I have 30-40 so it's not too many.
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But seriously, what makes it bad to stunt FL off? I don't see the reason.
Cause it make the replays look like crap?
You only land higher stunts because your pc is better?
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btw. Your calculations about height aren't correct, plus less gravity because of fl off = even higher than your calcs.
That's an option which is avaivable for everyone.
more speed = more fts height with the same skill
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You can't really create a good stable fps amount because it depends on the texture and the models around you.
I still don't care. I will stunt FL: Off. If you're just jealous because you got a crappy PC, then buy a better one...
Word.
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btw. Your calculations about height aren't correct, plus less gravity because of fl off = even higher than your calcs.
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That's an option which is avaivable for everyone.
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calculations are corrects, dont try to confuse me, you can calculate yourself!
=> i can play 60fps but i think it's more fairplay to stunt fl-on
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idiot face i was saying you under calculated.
You didn't take into affect the effect that fps has on tick rate/gravity.
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Fl-off is less fairplay than fl-on
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You can't really create a good stable fps amount because it depends on the texture and the models around you.
I still don't care. I will stunt FL: Off. If you're just jealous because you got a crappy PC, then buy a better one...
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with 289km/h you could reach with a vertical perfect bump without air-effect more than 200fts but the gravity change if you do a krail or cork! and the Fl-off's krail are faster, so you bump more with more speed and you have more time to put your bike to the good position, the gravity of fl-off is the same, it's just looking diferent!
dont stop on the gravity, i call about fairplay
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What do you mean fair play? This isn't the olympics!
People should be able to stunt however they want, the only problem I see about FL off from your videos is the one's who call FL on users noobs.
Just because some people use FL on doesnt make them a bad stunter, look at explosion or nucleardeath, they use FL on and are awesome stunters.
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You guys are so funny, you are all like buy a new pc. Seriously who would buy a new pc just to play SA, that's senseless. I wish FL ON was compulsory so everybody would be (almost) on the same level and no more bullshit.
Good job Fox also.
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I dont tell about better or worst, it's just sad for the lagy players who must use fl-on, do you understand?
Who said that they MUST use fl on?
Not that I would anyways because I like stunting to be as hard as it can be but I personally can't run SA with FL off, it lags so much it crashes. It also means that I potentially can't get as far or high as people who stunt FL off, but I don't really care because stunting ain't all about how far or high you can go.
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stunting ain't all about how far or high you can go.
QFT, thats what I was trying to say but I didn't know how to write it.
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with 289km/h you could reach with a vertical perfect bump without air-effect more than 200fts but the gravity change if you do a krail or cork! and the Fl-off's krail are faster, so you bump more with more speed and you have more time to put your bike to the good position, the gravity of fl-off is the same, it's just looking diferent!
dont stop on the gravity, i call about fairplay
It's fair enough as long as people listen to the famous "No Mods or enhancing cheats were used" sentence, although some people can't even listen to that rule...
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If you spend $5k on a comp, you automatically have the right to own everyone.
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Lmao Juan. Anyway heres my two cence, not like anyone will take notice but whatever.
The argument between FL on and FL off could go on forever without and real conclusion being drawn and this will happen here. The fact that people are achiving more height than someone who is stunting fl on due to there computer may seem unfair but lets look at this way.
It's not modding, Rockstar incorporated it into the game and thus its my opinon that we should be able to expliot it. Hell im sure people would stunt fl off in VC if It didn't mess up the reps or whatever.
And plus... If someone is going higher than you does this mean that there a better stunter? Stunting cannot be judged only by people landing massive p2b and Bumps but throughout a wide range of stunts, im mostly talking about grinds or the new creative stunts.
If you stunt FL on you can whine and bitch about people stunting fl off but im sure the people who do, including myself, won't give a shit, because stunting is for fun. I stunt for myself, I wont change to Fl on because you want me to and I dont think anyone else should or will.
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Lmao Juan. Anyway heres my two cence, not like anyone will take notice but whatever.
The argument between FL on and FL off could go on forever without and real conclusion being drawn and this will happen here. The fact that people are achiving more height than someone who is stunting fl on due to there computer may seem unfair but lets look at this way.
It's not modding, Rockstar incorporated it into the game and thus its my opinon that we should be able to expliot it. Hell im sure people would stunt fl off in VC if It didn't mess up the reps or whatever.
And plus... If someone is going higher than you does this mean that there a better stunter? Stunting cannot be judged only by people landing massive p2b and Bumps but throughout a wide range of stunts, im mostly talking about grinds or the new creative stunts.
If you stunt FL on you can whine and bitch about people stunting fl off but im sure the people who do, including myself, won't give a shit, because stunting is for fun. I stunt for myself, I wont change to Fl on because you want me to and I dont think anyone else should or will.
Word.
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eeerm... wtf? 330 fl off??^^
i only make 290 top...
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If you have a better pc doesn't mean your bike will be so fast...for example if you have 120fps I doubt the bike will be faster than running on 200fps. SA have some limits, I doubt you can get 370km/h...etc. if your game runs way better (250fps). I will have a pwnage killa pc over 5 years or such, are you saying that if I have 5000fps the bike will be faster than a 20fps hydra??
And not all fl off replays are so laggy and I think I know how to make them normal
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Stunting isnt a competition. Therefore FL Off cannot be unfair.
/topic
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DC your opinion is not always right so /topic is bullshit mate.
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Kindly explain why people should not be allowed to play the game how they like?
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FoX you should just let it go, it's useless, it's not modding as Dan already said. You even threathened me to ban me if I wouldn't put FL on, because you think it's modding and because "it lags other people".
So fuck you for this whole FL on/off shit, and fuck you for telling me what to do you fucking moron, I'll make my own decisions. If I want to stunt FL off, then I will, either single player or SAMP, I won't let you tell me what to do
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Great Job FoX mate, but meh that dont change much i guess
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ehm wtf ?
i mean FL off is in the game
if the FL on users dont want to use them its their fault
FL off can cause floaty reps i know but if you are a Creative stunter like i am Kr3mlin corevil and so on
guys dont give a shit because they are stoned of creativity and you cant really point out if its FL on or Off
What i try to say is FL off = no mod and FL off may change the FPS ( people who do huge air stunts use them to land the stunts they want ) therefore blame it on the boogie
Bai !
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Me 2 Snickerz.... Dunno how he reached 330 with fl off
i cant reach over 299
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But seriously, what makes it bad to stunt FL off? I don't see the reason.
Cause it make the replays look like crap?
If everyone stunt'd with FL off it would like normal.
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There is a relation with the fl off and your style of stunt
Nucleardeath Explo and I use Fl-on and we do many grinds
DC prefer bumps and use Fl-off
nice comment Omni
I hope that R* ll clear this option in GTA4.
But seriously, what makes it bad to stunt FL off? I don't see the reason.
Cause it make the replays look like crap?
If everyone stunt'd with FL off it would like normal.
nice comment too
this option is too much
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no thats why ;p
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Explain why you dont like people playing with FL off Fox. Is it because you dont like seeing people doing bigger/better stunts than you?
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who can read the fl-off's replay normaly?
I can read 60fps but It alaways lag
solution?
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Let's make Alienware sponsor GLS
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who can read the fl-off's replay normaly?
I can read 60fps but It alaways lag
solution?
Solution: dont watch replays with fl off
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Nucleardeath Explo and I use Fl-on and we do many grinds
DC prefer bumps and use Fl-off
As if you can't grind with FL off?
JL said it all. Its stupid to use FL on. You're only making things harder for yourself, which is a sign of a big ego. If someones land something FL off that you can't land with FL on, tough shit, its because you're too stuck up to switch.
EDIT:: That was random, Godfather.
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Explain why you dont like people playing with FL off Fox. Is it because you dont like seeing people doing bigger/better stunts than you?
Ive lost many stunt because i thought it was inpossible and all has been done next by a Fl-off stunter, so I did many grinds and now I dont know what can i do with my fl-on
I always think that the stunt about 190fts? of TAZ is impossible and the first roof too, who landed the first roof with fl-on?
I cant try it this area crash my computer.
who can read the fl-off's replay normaly?
I can read 60fps but It alaways lag
solution?
Solution: dont watch replays with fl off
watch with fl on or off change nothing for my reading
the "Exit" 's intro has been done by Labiloute with FL-OFF and to delete the lag I ve cut every frame stucked (Ive deleted 4 secondes of lag, so 120 frames!) This solution isnt realist for a stunpart, it's a madness!
There is more problems with fl-off I think
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GTFO of this topic and do some FL on/off stunts. You won't ever solve this conflict. I'm talking to all of you.
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If lab didnt use the fl off it ll be easier for the editing
-the fl-off is not easier for everythings
JL? how did you do to read the TAZ's replay without lag ?
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Hey Fox ever considered noone gives a fuck if you cant watch replays?
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Why not
set Fl-off to make a bump
and set Fl-on for grinds
nobody ll approve this
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If lab didnt use the fl off it ll be easier for the editing
-the fl-off is not easier for everythings
JL? how did you do to read the TAZ's replay without lag ?
LMAO.
U have just to turn on ur fl on.
SCM has nothing to do with the Frame limiter.
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You cant expect a community to change its ways just because you have a tiny problem with your game, idiot.
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DC why you dont try more grinds now ? I could be great
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Arn't you guys forgetting it's a damn in-game option? maybe you should forbid people that use Low quality to record their stunts becuase Fox Master wants replays to look good.
like wtf?
btw that was just an example.
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DC why you dont try more grinds now ? I could be great
Because I dont want to.
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Taz' replays didn't lag. I always had FL on while recording, don't know how it'd look like with off.
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turn on or off change nothing
proof it
and DC stop say idiot for nothing
I just want that you (the fl-off stunters) stop saying that fl on stunters are noobs, did you watch all the video?
PS: are you american?
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All replays in SA play at 25 fps. The frame limiter doesn't change them, unlike VC.
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I repeat that I can stunt FL-OFF but I dont do this
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^I reckon seeing the word "noobs" in your vid pointed at FL off stunters.
btw if FL off stunting is easier, how can FL off stunters call FL on stunters noobs when they deal with more problems?
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If you dont have a constant rate with fl-off the replay ll lag I think, replay select some frames of the fl-off and if there was a lag the replay cut the frame and we look a lag
^I reckon seeing the word "noobs" in your vid pointed at FL off stunters.
btw if FL off stunting is easier, how can FL off stunters call FL on stunters noobs when they deal with more problems?
If and didnt say it nobody had thoughted be concerned
You take more time to explain why you prefer fl-off than understand the problem just because you are sure that your opinion is better and you say I tought it about myself only for I forget what I think really!
WHERE IS THE FAIRPLAY?
thought sorry LOL
If you dont have a constant rate with fl-off the replay ll lag I think, replay select some frames of the fl-off and if there was a lag the replay cut the frame and we look a lag
^I reckon seeing the word "noobs" in your vid pointed at FL off stunters.
btw if FL off stunting is easier, how can FL off stunters call FL on stunters noobs when they deal with more problems?
If and didnt say it nobody had thoughted be concerned
You take more time to explain why you prefer fl-off than understand the problem just because you are sure that your opinion is better and you say I tought it about myself only for I forget what I think really!
WHERE IS THE FAIRPLAY?
thought sorry LOL
If I ...
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what?
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what?
Do you know why so many people send a comment?
=> because this problem isn't negligible.
Is there just one who understand what I mean?
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nope and fox i never saw ppl stunting FL on got insulted by FL off users because they cant land that high stunts
gimme a link pweeezy
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Where is the Fairplay???WTF
You know what's not fair? I bought a computer and can't use it in GTA to the fullest enjoyable stuntfeeling.
But well nvm this topic is the total crap. There will be always a war between FL:On and FL:Off users. The only problem is, that the FL:On user start every time.
Btw all this damn complaining is total pointless some people here never watched this links:
http://newsizeofourworld.ytmnd.com (http://newsizeofourworld.ytmnd.com)
http://atinyglimpse.ytmnd.com (http://atinyglimpse.ytmnd.com)
http://palebluedot.ytmnd.com (http://palebluedot.ytmnd.com)
http://palebluedot2.ytmnd.com (http://palebluedot2.ytmnd.com) (kinda weird but I like it)
(I really need to thank the guy who posted this links here on the forums long long time ago)
Now tell me...is it still worth talking about this crap? Just live your fucking life how you want and stunt how you want. Use FL:On or FL:Off. Stop giving a fuck about it...
Have fun with your life.
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I have NEVER seen an FL Off stunter call a On stunter a noob. Stop making stuff up.
And where does fairplay come into this? Its not a league. Were not competing for some prize so why does it all matter. Your just pissed that someone landed your stunt and your trying to get back at the world like some emo fag.
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SOMEONE POST BUZZSAWS STUNTING LAWS NAO!
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Wow Nice Fox i stunting Fl-on i have vista and VISTA SUCKS = 25 fl-on and fl-off 30 fps D:
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Meh this is SHIT!!!
on my PC if fl is On GTa still goes with 40 fps with FL off 50 fps! so it runs too fast!!!!!!!!!
to resolve this problem i need to turn 1 core off!!! meh fl don't give a shit! MAYBE on single core system it gives a shit!!!!!!!!!
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This should be closed, I feel another FL war coming
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This is stupid, you're expecting us to change our ways because you think it's better
Look shithead, GTA is a game to have fun with, it's nice that all these stunt methods were found, but it's still for fun.
Now, there's this guy called FoX`MaSteR and he tells us that if you have FL off in the stunt server, he will ban you. He thinks it lags him and the server.
Then he wants a whole fucking community to go FL on, because he can't stand it that his PC sucks at FL off. COME ON!
It's for fun, it's not a goddamn horserace or whatsoever, wake the fuck up.
We do what we want (read: FL off stunters). It's a game, and games should be played for fun and not for some nitwit who wants every single one who stunts in GTA, to stunt FL on. You fail big time for that man. Leave.
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fox, your a tool for actually caring about a fucking game.
puzzle pretty much said it all
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hey fox u r wrong
E = 1/2mv^2 (E = Energy, m = mass, v = velocity)
bump is changing Kinetic Energy to Potential Energy.
in height dont multiply 1.16 u must multiply 1.3356(1.16^2)
ex) with fl-on : 100ft
with fl-off : 116ft -> X
with fl-off : 133ft -> O
ps. i think that it would be almost same if player runs "stuntersheaven(deleting motion blur)"
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Owned by maths.
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Wow sucker, good job.
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that's a physics expression lol
anyway i use fl-off
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I use FL -off ..
Nice vid.
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great job foxy
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YOU FAKE
I talk about a perfect bump with full speed, I ll no make some hard calcul if nobody can understand it
same with an error the fl-off is always easier
The (mv²)/2 = E dont work with SA
SA gravity is 63.06ft/s
but it change if you put the bike differently!
Owned yourself
Sucker => Try a bump and see that you lie
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STOP BEING SUCH A FUCKING TOOL PLEASE.
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I don't care about that!
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I dunno what to say
Good find I guess..
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speechless
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25fps makes my eyes weird so 90fps (what i get) is better :]
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Nucleardeath Explo and I use Fl-on and we do many grinds
DC prefer bumps and use Fl-off
As if you can't grind with FL off?
JL said it all. Its stupid to use FL on. You're only making things harder for yourself, which is a sign of a big ego. If someones land something FL off that you can't land with FL on, tough shit, its because you're too stuck up to switch.
EDIT:: That was random, Godfather.
I really don't care whether someone uses FL off or on but your such a ignorant cunt Ocean calling people that use FL on stuck up or egotistical because it's not true you fucking donut.
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YOU FAKE
I talk about a perfect bump with full speed, I ll no make some hard calcul if nobody can understand it
same with an error the fl-off is always easier
The (mv²)/2 = E dont work with SA
SA gravity is 63.06ft/s
but it change if you put the bike differently!
Owned yourself :cc_detective:
Sucker => Try a bump and see that you lie :cc_detective:
and what fomula that used in SA? i think that is used in SA engine. also, "SA gravity" is wrong "SA gravity acceleration"
and SA's gravity acceleration in 63fts/s? it equals to 19m/s. real gravity acceleration is 9.8m/s. wtf?
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The Truth Is Revealed!
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finallight owns today
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Finallight xD
I rly knew about this with FL,but I dont really care if ppl stunt fl on or off they should do what make more fun for 'em.
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It doesnt matter as long as the stunts are entertaining, right guys? Guys?
Well screw you motherfuckers.
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did JL just say nearly everything in stunting depends on luck? soo, say for instance a simple bump to grind, or just the grind, how does tat require luck? I aimed for the grind, hit it softly to stay on, and balance. Where is the luck?I think damn near every stunt takes some planning, and if it doesent, its not a stunt. Like if you MD on to a super tall building but weren't going for that building, its no so much a stunt, but if you were, and you took the time to figure out aiming the right direction etc.. its a stunt.
Anyways
FL On WHO CARES
Fl Off WHO CARES
Stunting is for fun! and Im with some of the lower pc end groups as well, FL off I get 60 65, FL on 30.
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YOU FAKE
I talk about a perfect bump with full speed, I ll no make some hard calcul if nobody can understand it
same with an error the fl-off is always easier
The (mv²)/2 = E dont work with SA
SA gravity is 63.06ft/s
but it change if you put the bike differently!
Owned yourself
Sucker => Try a bump and see that you lie
and what fomula that used in SA? i think that is used in SA engine. also, "SA gravity" is wrong "SA gravity acceleration"
and SA's gravity acceleration in 63fts/s? it equals to 19m/s. real gravity acceleration is 9.8m/s. wtf?
9.81*
To fall 70fts the bike take 1.11sec DELTA X/ DELTA T = A
21.336M(x)/1.11(t) = 19.22m/s² = 63.06fts/s²
1.959x more than the real gravity
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YOU FAKE
I talk about a perfect bump with full speed, I ll no make some hard calcul if nobody can understand it
same with an error the fl-off is always easier
The (mv²)/2 = E dont work with SA
SA gravity is 63.06ft/s
but it change if you put the bike differently!
Owned yourself
Sucker => Try a bump and see that you lie
and what fomula that used in SA? i think that is used in SA engine. also, "SA gravity" is wrong "SA gravity acceleration"
and SA's gravity acceleration in 63fts/s? it equals to 19m/s. real gravity acceleration is 9.8m/s. wtf?
9.81*
To fall 70fts the bike take 1.11sec DELTA X/ DELTA T = A
21.336M(x)/1.11(t) = 19.22m/s² = 63.06fts/s²
1.959x more than the real gravity
wtf are you talking about o_O
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(g x h) / 2
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The rulz are the same for all country
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Someones pissed got his stunt got landed
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did JL just say nearly everything in stunting depends on luck? soo, say for instance a simple bump to grind, or just the grind, how does tat require luck? I aimed for the grind, hit it softly to stay on, and balance. Where is the luck?I think damn near every stunt takes some planning, and if it doesent, its not a stunt. Like if you MD on to a super tall building but weren't going for that building, its no so much a stunt, but if you were, and you took the time to figure out aiming the right direction etc.. its a stunt.
Yes, it's all luck. You can aim for a grind or a bump, but you can't control it at all. You just pull a wheelie and hope that it works. That's all you can do.
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Dont know about anyone else but I always try to work out how i did successful bumps, what height the wheelie was at, where I pulled up etc. So its mostly gamesense rather than luck.
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JL => true
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Dont know about anyone else but I always try to work out how i did successful bumps, what height the wheelie was at, where I pulled up etc. So its mostly gamesense rather than luck.
Gamesense, that's the best word I've seen on these forums. Of course luck is invloved too, but it's much more about gamesense.
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Well yeah. You sure have to use your brain to figure out how you can do it successful, but you still can't control it. That's what I meant.
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I laugh at it completely that the stunters playing in FL-OFF or FL-ON.
However, it's necessary that the players doesn't mod their stunts just to be considered great stunters or other. For me it's the main part.
Ev0x
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Well yeah. You sure have to use your brain to figure out how you can do it successful, but you still can't control it. That's what I meant.
That's like saying almost everything is about luck. Take for example a basketball player. When he has thrown the ball he can't control it, right? So therefore baskteball is all luck, going by your "rules".
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OMG 8 pages full with bullshit ...
stunt fl on or fl off, who cares ? as long as you dont use mods, all is ok.
10 feet more or not.. the most important thing is that you have fun. NOTHING more. stunting isnt a competition!!!!! you do stunt 'cause u like it ! when you dont like it, then dont do it !
when u see you cant land a stunt with FL on, then use FL off or search a new spot.
and why is this problem only in SA ???
the good site from FL off: the graphics are looking a way better. and you can do rads longer ( who cares hopefully you have fun )
the bad site from FL off: replays can be laggy and you can get problems with modding ( i dont care about this )
the good site from FL on: the replays doesnt look laggy.
the bad site from FL on: the graphics looks a lil' bit weird.
@ all: Stop taking other the fun of stunting . Do your own thing
FUCKING FULLSTOP !
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@Tacmeister:
He can control how he throws the ball, but a stunter can't control the bump (the throwing of the ball).
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Woah Thx Souzuk !!
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@Tacmeister:
He can control how he throws the ball, but a stunter can't control the bump (the throwing of the ball).
You can in SA, you have air control.
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OMG 8 pages full with bullshit ...
stunt fl on or fl off, who cares ? as long as you dont use mods, all is ok.
10 feet more or not.. the most important thing is that you have fun. NOTHING more. stunting isnt a competition!!!!! you do stunt 'cause u like it ! when you dont like it, then dont do it !
when u see you cant land a stunt with FL on, then use FL off or search a new spot.
and why is this problem only in SA ???
the good site from FL off: the graphics are looking a way better. and you can do rads longer ( who cares hopefully you have fun )
the bad site from FL off: replays can be laggy and you can get problems with modding ( i dont care about this )
the good site from FL on: the replays doesnt look laggy.
the bad site from FL on: the graphics looks a lil' bit weird.
@ all: Stop taking other the fun of stunting . Do your own thing
FUCKING FULLSTOP !
Agreed.
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@Tacmeister:
He can control how he throws the ball, but a stunter can't control the bump (the throwing of the ball).
You can in SA, you have air control.
Yes you do. But that's not what I'm about. I'm about how you get into the air.
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döner
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OMG 8 pages full with bullshit ...
stunt fl on or fl off, who cares ? as long as you dont use mods, all is ok.
10 feet more or not.. the most important thing is that you have fun. NOTHING more. stunting isnt a competition!!!!! you do stunt 'cause u like it ! when you dont like it, then dont do it !
when u see you cant land a stunt with FL on, then use FL off or search a new spot.
and why is this problem only in SA ???
the good site from FL off: the graphics are looking a way better. and you can do rads longer ( who cares hopefully you have fun )
the bad site from FL off: replays can be laggy and you can get problems with modding ( i dont care about this )
the good site from FL on: the replays doesnt look laggy.
the bad site from FL on: the graphics looks a lil' bit weird.
@ all: Stop taking other the fun of stunting . Do your own thing
FUCKING FULLSTOP !
word.
and btw to control a bump u need fucking hard reactions. You need fly fucking airplanes in the Airforce to bump in that way you want
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gah ok souzuk forced me to agree with him
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gah ok souzuk forced me to agree with him
what ?
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I would be happy if someone would close this and make a Announcement topic with something like: No complaining about FL: Off or something like that :/
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I asked Aries to move or close this, but lazy Aries is lazy.
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Stunt however you like aslong as you have fun, but don't spew bullshit like "fl off is even and it's fair because everyone has the option"
Just because some people use FL on doesnt make them a bad stunter, look at explosion or nucleardeath, they use FL on and are awesome stunters.
FTW
If you spend $5k on a comp, you automatically have the right to own everyone. cc_detective.gif
Lol
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First of all, I want to thank FL and Juan for making me while reading this topic, it was what kept me going and kept me from pressing the big red X on the top right of my screen.
Second of all, I'm gonna kinda lean toward Fox's video and his proof.
-Sucker, SA is a game, not real life, it has its own rules. Therefore it is pretty pointless to use formulas when calculating stunts.
-Whoever said stunting is luck, Tack had a great example to counter it, also when you stunt you can lean foward, turn left and right, lean back. So stunting can't be luck since we control the NRG like the player controls the ball.
-Quiting the game is also an option incorporated into SA, most of you guys need to abuse that also.
I can go on forever, but we all know whatever we say will in no way shape or form change another person's mind, especially over the internet. So it's pretty much pointless to continue.
I was hoping this topic would be more than just "YOU TOOL" "YOU IDIOT" "GET A BETTER PC" "YOU SUCK" "COMPETITION!" "BUT ROCKSTAR PUT IT IN THERE!!!"
I'm not even sure if you guys know this or not, but R* intended SA to be 30fps.
/topic
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9.81*
To fall 70fts the bike take 1.11sec DELTA X/ DELTA T = A
21.336M(x)/1.11(t) = 19.22m/s² = 63.06fts/s²
1.959x more than the real gravity
falling velocity is irregular. 9.8m/s is adding in real time every seconds.
ex) 0m/s after 1 sec, 9.8m/s after 2 sec, 19.6m/s after 3sec
"21.336M(x)/1.11(t) = 19.22m/s² = 63.06fts/s²" this is average velocity.
here is the fomula between velocity and height.
H = -5t^2 + 50t + a(H = height, t = second, a = starting point's height, a standard unit is "meter")
understand it?
-Sucker, SA is a game, not real life, it has its own rules. Therefore it is pretty pointless to use formulas when calculating stunts.
/topic
i know that, i was just trying to prove that he was wrong.
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@Tacmeister:
He can control how he throws the ball, but a stunter can't control the bump (the throwing of the ball).
DC is right. CJ can control his vehicle in the air, but there would be air resistance in SA engine, imo.
so it is different between controlled and not controlled(because of vehicle's contacting area with air is not same)
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@Tacmeister:
He can control how he throws the ball, but a stunter can't control the bump (the throwing of the ball).
DC is right. CJ can control his vehicle in the air, but there would be air resistance in SA engine, imo.
so it is different between controlled and not controlled(because of vehicle's contacting area with air is not same)
I'm not talking about the airtime, what the fuck.
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close this stupid topic it has no goal!
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yes close this bullshit topic ...
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none of this will matter when VA is released lol
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@Tacmeister:
He can control how he throws the ball, but a stunter can't control the bump (the throwing of the ball).
DC is right. CJ can control his vehicle in the air, but there would be air resistance in SA engine, imo.
so it is different between controlled and not controlled(because of vehicle's contacting area with air is not same)
I'm not talking about the airtime, what the fuck.
i aint talkin about the airtime too. i was saying about relationship between the distance and the air resistance
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All in Vice City have 200-300 FPS, is a old game. Fl-Off in vice city, it's ''modding''.
Why in SA NO!?!.
And... don't tell '' My computer is shitty, and i must stunt with FL-Off'
Bullshit!.
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My computer is shitty, and i must stunt with FL-Off
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Bullshit
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Still dont care about this shit
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Wooo nice comment!
Tackleberry => True
Souzuk => nice too
Sucker => Average problem is true too but it give an idea
Michu => Intelligent comment
others => Nice too
dling hq
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Wooo nice comment!
Tackleberry => True
Souzuk => nice too
Sucker => Average problem is true too but it give an idea
Michu => Intelligent comment
others => Nice too
dling hq
1400 view for this topic, everybody want to say his opinion about the frame limiter
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All in Vice City have 200-300 FPS, is a old game. Fl-Off in vice city, it's ''modding''.
Why in SA NO!?!.
And... don't tell '' My computer is shitty, and i must stunt with FL-Off'
Bullshit!.
If the replay wouldn't get fucked up like shit in VC, a lot of people would stunt there with FL:off too IMO.
Please if you don't have any fucking idea then shut up. Thank you.
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was trying to bump upto top of some place on samp with fl on, 3 ppl made it before me with fl off. i came close a few times but it took me much much longer to land it because of that. and they thought they were all pro cuz they did it with their fl off.
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döner
RedBull
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The last thing to say to the guy that made this topic is. Get a life.
stfu bored guy of life
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Can a mod close this... the goal of this is nothing..........
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