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GTA Series => Grand Theft Auto - IV => IV Chat & Support => Topic started by: Adonai on September 29, 2007, 10:33:17 PM

Title: No more stunts?
Post by: Adonai on September 29, 2007, 10:33:17 PM: I guess, that in IV will be no stunts. I mean no bumps, grinds, BSMs and other. Why? Cause R* are making a REALISTIC game. And they said that bike physics are already rebuilt. That's not good.
Title: No more stunts?
Post by: Olin on September 29, 2007, 10:36:44 PM: This doesn't mean we can't stunt, it just won't be the same as it is now. The GTA III era isn't even stunting, it's using flaws in the physics.
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Post by: Adonai on September 29, 2007, 10:47:06 PM: Maybe in IV will be some built-in tricks and stunts, but there will be no flaws, and we loved them so much.
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Post by: Olin on September 29, 2007, 10:49:09 PM: Even if stunting won't be the same, someone will find something.
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Post by: Adonai on September 29, 2007, 10:55:08 PM: I hope someone will find.
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Post by: Eagle on September 30, 2007, 12:13:33 AM: I agree with Olin.....

someone will find sumthing
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Post by: Olin on September 30, 2007, 12:32:20 AM: Yes, "sumthing."
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Post by: brandon6199 on September 30, 2007, 12:49:24 AM: Olin not everyone has to use perfect grammar and spelling you know

a good amount of people here dont have english as their first language
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Post by: Adonai on September 30, 2007, 01:18:06 AM: I think in IV will be no grinds, they're not relistic. But grinds are VERY cool.
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Post by: Olin on September 30, 2007, 01:22:22 AM: Quote from: brandon6199
Olin not everyone has to use perfect grammar and spelling you know

a good amount of people here dont have english as their first language
I'm pretty sure his location is located in the US, where English is the primary language. I don't get the reasoning behind shorthand when you typed everything else properly just to save the effort of one letter.
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Post by: ofthemountain on September 30, 2007, 02:45:47 AM: There will always be flaws in a game of that size. Rockstar have tended to be lazy with checking for them in the past, so I'm sure there will be stunting as we know it now to a small degree. But it's not gonna be out on PC for ages anyway.
Title: No more stunts?
Post by: Adonai on September 30, 2007, 02:56:40 AM: Quote from: ofthemountain
There will always be flaws in a game of that size. Rockstar have tended to be lazy with checking for them in the past, so I'm sure there will be stunting as we know it now to a small degree. But it's not gonna be out on PC for ages anyway.

Yeah, it delays, and delays one more time, and one more...
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Post by: Darkyy on September 30, 2007, 03:39:46 AM: There will always be stunting possibilities, each game has his owns bugs and glitchs. Maybe in GTA4 at the beginning people will be like "OMG a krail" then it will be a nice bump to roof .... and new methods will be invented and the machina will be launched.
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Post by: Sucre on September 30, 2007, 05:23:43 AM: Yup...
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Post by: Brainkiller on September 30, 2007, 06:01:58 AM: 1st person to hang from a helicopter and grind a rail with the guys balls wins all my forum money. Maybe it's possible in multi-player/
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Post by: DeathCobra on September 30, 2007, 06:58:10 AM: Quote from: ofthemountain
There will always be flaws in a game of that size. Rockstar have tended to be lazy with checking for them in the past, so I'm sure there will be stunting as we know it now to a small degree. But it's not gonna be out on PC for ages anyway.
Im pretty sure they do check quite well, but with a freeroam map that big its hard to find everything a community this size does, and fix it. Stuff like BSMs and AGs were fixed in SA, to an extent.
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Post by: Adonai on September 30, 2007, 07:10:24 AM: Quote from: DeathCobra
Quote from: ofthemountain
There will always be flaws in a game of that size. Rockstar have tended to be lazy with checking for them in the past, so I'm sure there will be stunting as we know it now to a small degree. But it's not gonna be out on PC for ages anyway.
Im pretty sure they do check quite well, but with a freeroam map that big its hard to find everything a community this size does, and fix it. Stuff like BSMs and AGs were fixed in SA, to an extent.

Remember, the guy in IV will do something with those wires in car to launch it, yes? So now imagine car fallgrab in IV. LOL, it will be long, very long. 5 secs to get in the car. But the fuckiest thing is that in IV is NO planes. I hate it. Only heli's. This is stupid. R* said that because IV is one city, there i sno need in air traffic. But there will be an airport. In SA the fastest way to cross the map is to fly. But in IV are only boring helis. We could perform excellent urban-style plane stunts there, if we would have planes.
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Post by: Drool on September 30, 2007, 11:25:52 AM: I'm sure, that we'll stunt in Liberty City from IV. But as a mod to SA/VC. But we can't expect stunting from a realistic game. Just try plaing Test Drive Unlimited - with car as well as with bike. I think in IV it will look the same...
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Post by: Genyus on September 30, 2007, 11:42:41 AM: I dont think we will be able to stunt like we know it. Just think about this: You see a guy sliding on the back of his bike going up and down really fast then goes down gets a speed boost and hits a stone wall and land on a roof. Thats not realistic. And IV was meant to be realistic so I dont think we will be able to do our well known form of stunting. But maybe someone will find a new technique someday.. But there is going to be some cool freerunning aspects in the game
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Post by: morbidxxx on September 30, 2007, 12:33:10 PM: Quote from: Drool
I'm sure, that we'll stunt in Liberty City from IV. But as a mod to SA/VC. But we can't expect stunting from a realistic game. Just try plaing Test Drive Unlimited - with car as well as with bike. I think in IV it will look the same...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TfhYQxC8aI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TfhYQxC8aI) It looks pretty stuntable.
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Post by: Hoff on September 30, 2007, 01:45:19 PM: I hope there will be backflips for the first time in a GTA game.
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Post by: Ferσή on September 30, 2007, 04:25:59 PM: you can stunt in half life 2 and im pretty sure the GTA 4 will be the same. The only thing that really makes a game stuntable is that fact that you can float freely through air realistically. Most games when you hit a jump the car will tend to not roll or go side to side, but in GTA the car floats freely. I doubt they remove this aspect in GTA 4 leaving it still stuntable.
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Post by: Rod on October 01, 2007, 04:40:08 PM: I think that GTA IV will be shit for stunting and this forum will die in a few months.
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Post by: boxXx on October 02, 2007, 02:41:13 AM: Quote from: Rod
I think that GTA IV will be shit for stunting and this forum will die in a few months.

= no Wasteland Heroes ....

I think feron is pretty much right when you stunt in vc you gain about 200 ft and try that in realy life ....
Title: No more stunts?
Post by: Kai on October 02, 2007, 05:55:01 AM: Hmm i dont give a shit whether its stuntable or not mainly the storyline counts
but there will be always a way to stunt just wait and see !
but did u ever thought about No replay system for the PC version ? this would be fucking terrible
Title: No more stunts?
Post by: Rod on October 02, 2007, 06:21:46 AM: Quote from: boxXx
Quote from: Rod
I think that GTA IV will be shit for stunting and this forum will die in a few months.

= no Wasteland Heroes ....

I was kidding
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Post by: Paxton on October 02, 2007, 10:02:33 AM: There'll anyway be some stunts to have, IMO.. anyone will find a way to do, the no-stuntable situation sounds so impossible..
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Post by: plumpegg on October 02, 2007, 04:41:06 PM: is gonna be ok
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Post by: magmaroad on October 03, 2007, 04:08:39 AM: Yeah...its gonna be okay and OMG i hope there is a backflip in Gta IV
Title: No more stunts?
Post by: KING on October 08, 2007, 10:47:06 AM: wll according to a gamespot play through where they got to play for a while in a secluded area said that when they hopped on an unnamed motorcycle they wheeled into a wall attemted to jump off and somehow ag...

they also said they hit a curb and flew substantially high hit the ground after spinning and landed...

theres more but thats the bone of the meat...

then again this wasnt the full version so...

maybe we can petition for "a stunters special edition box"
Title: No more stunts?
Post by: Adonai on October 14, 2007, 04:57:29 AM: Quote from: KING
maybe we can petition for "a stunters special edition box"

Or we will render that fucking map to SA or VC engine, and stunt there
Title: No more stunts?
Post by: morbidxxx on October 14, 2007, 06:24:58 AM: Do you really think that Rockstar knows about stunting?
Title: No more stunts?
Post by: Adonai on October 14, 2007, 07:03:18 AM: I don't know...Maybe they know...I guess they have browsed youtube for vids about their greatest game. And here are so many stunt vids, that they could see them. Or not...
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Post by: infested on October 14, 2007, 02:19:17 PM: the more complicated, the more bugs and glitches. at least that's my experience.
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Post by: Dark Rebel on October 14, 2007, 06:49:47 PM: If somebody convertes map in VC engine it will be cool if many people work on it wont take long.
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Post by: Adonai on October 17, 2007, 02:52:27 AM: Yeah...And to SA engine too.
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Post by: Flat Face on October 17, 2007, 03:19:23 AM: i was thinking about that before, but ...the map just needs to be remade by some1 and they can convert for both games
Title: No more stunts?
Post by: BoBsaget on October 18, 2007, 07:53:48 AM: Quote from: Dark Rebel
If somebody convertes map in VC engine it will be cool if many people work on it wont take long.
I think the main part of the map allready has been converted for both SA and VC...
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Post by: Adonai on October 18, 2007, 08:11:00 AM: Already??? WTF???
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Post by: Juan on October 18, 2007, 11:02:36 AM: Quote from: DarkPhoenix
Already??? WTF???
Ill convert it.
Title: No more stunts?
Post by: Bloodware on October 19, 2007, 12:36:22 AM: Think it's gonna be a cool game, and many new stunting methods will be discovered. What I DO worry about, is that GTA IV is only available on PS3 and Xbox360, and the PC version will take ages to be released. And I saw a few two cool suggestions:
- Signing a petition for a stunting box
- Converting the GTA IV map into VC/SA or just both

I'm down with both.
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Post by: KING on October 19, 2007, 07:39:32 AM: R* isn't stupid they probally have an R* employee on this very website. you think they dont know about mods or stunting? half of them probally stunt. ATS is probally made of R* employees
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Post by: Bloodware on October 19, 2007, 07:58:54 AM: Riiiight. So, Neo is the head programmer? And Madmax is the map texturer?
Yeahhh...
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Post by: Ferσή on October 19, 2007, 11:27:36 AM: There actually was a developer from R* on this site at one time.
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Post by: Juan on October 19, 2007, 11:42:15 AM: Lies. Pics or it never happened.
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Post by: Ferσή on October 19, 2007, 01:20:04 PM: I forgot his name but I remember talking to him on this forum about stunting. Anyone else recall?
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Post by: Barney on October 20, 2007, 08:13:47 PM: no
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Post by: HeX on October 20, 2007, 10:46:34 PM: Quote from: Barney
no
pretty straight forward answer there.
Title: No more stunts?
Post by: Juan on October 21, 2007, 10:49:38 AM: I really doubting its gonna be stuntable as in the other gta's. Lets face it. It wont have the same physics engine as the other games. So we cant expect to be able to bump the same or bump at all. Lame car stunts is probably what will dominate GTA4 stunt vids.
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Post by: Fate on October 21, 2007, 04:20:34 PM: Quote from: Juan
I really doubting its gonna be stuntable as in the other gta's. Lets face it. It wont have the same physics engine as the other games. So we cant expect to be able to bump the same or bump at all. Lame car stunts is probably what will dominate GTA4 stunt vids.
Agreed, but cars aren't all bad. I <3 them. Cars ftw!
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Post by: Adonai on October 22, 2007, 01:18:52 AM: IV engine showoff. It;s called Euphoria. Many games will use it.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0n9KkKbGR_Y (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0n9KkKbGR_Y)

Type in tube's search "euphoria engine" and see more vids.
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Post by: JayFoxRox on October 22, 2007, 03:37:29 AM: Euphoria is some kind of ai engine... that wont take you anywhere

Oh yeh and I remember R* guys on the MTA forums, GTAF.
Also take a look at the offical site: http://www.rockstargames.com/vicecity/pc/index.htm (http://www.rockstargames.com/vicecity/pc/index.htm) (Webring -> Mods. They also linked to some stunt videos there once)
Also check the gamedev interview section, the latest R* interview told us that they stunt ONLINE sometimes using SA-MP.
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Post by: MaCi on October 22, 2007, 08:13:21 AM: I don't even WANT to stunt in IV, so for me it doesn't matter.
Title: No more stunts?
Post by: quraysh on October 22, 2007, 07:07:19 PM: why not? I love doing stunts =D, but if theres no more stunts in GTA IV then, I'll be more sad

EDIT:sorry for bumping topics
Title: No more stunts?
Post by: MaCi on October 23, 2007, 07:49:24 AM: Well, I want to play GTA IV because of all the new areas and graphics, OK, if there IS bumpable things then of course I'll try iy out, but I don't think that it's like MADE for stunting, as some guy said "there will be not the same gravity" I think there will be boring to stunt. Mabye grings don't work? Packers will not be there?

Nah, I will just play it as it is supposed to be played..dunno..feels a little weird to stunt there.
I love stunting but I don't think I want to in IV..
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Post by: Tarantula on October 26, 2007, 01:01:26 PM: think it will be so detailed it wont be stuntable
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Post by: Turtle Boy on October 26, 2007, 07:46:43 PM: IF there are exploits there are stunts, and I highley doubt they will make the PERFECT game from a glitch standpoint. No one has yet.
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Post by: jessrocked on November 07, 2007, 03:42:36 AM: yeah, but something else could be born
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Post by: Couto on November 07, 2007, 11:01:22 AM: Quote from: Olin
Quote from: brandon6199
Olin not everyone has to use perfect grammar and spelling you know

a good amount of people here dont have english as their first language
I'm pretty sure his location is located in the US, where English is the primary language. I don't get the reasoning behind shorthand when you typed everything else properly just to save the effort of one letter.

Sorry... er... More than half the people in america speak spanish as their first language although english is classed as the dominating language.
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Post by: Tayaroki on November 08, 2007, 03:01:52 AM: Uhm, I think that stunts will even more out there in GTAIV , the fact is that R* always puts some ramps in the game, whether they intend it or not and i think that ramps only can provide so many stunt options, i mean that in almost every game i played after i became a stunter in GTA i always found some stunts, and the fact is there is no game that has cars in it and doesn't have any form of stunting. Another point is that GTAIV is mainly an urban game, there are no screen shots with open vast plains of nothingness in GTAIV unlike GTASA, we all know that the deseret area and the bone country ares of SA are nothing like the cities in terms of stunting, Urban enviorment leads to more stunting options.
Worst case we'll do alot of Parkour XD
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Post by: вαℓυ on November 08, 2007, 03:59:22 AM: im looking forward to buy this game and im 110% sure that someone will find some new stunt method..
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Post by: Adonai on November 13, 2007, 11:11:55 AM: Oh no...Parkour...Only if grenade boosting...

BTW, Niko will be able to climb emergency ladders on the houses...And he will become dizzy if he climbs big height...Sucky...
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Post by: вαℓυ on November 14, 2007, 04:49:52 AM: Quote from: DarkPhoenix
Oh no...Parkour...Only if grenade boosting...

BTW, Niko will be able to climb emergency ladders on the houses...And he will become dizzy if he climbs big height...Sucky...
if he feels dizzy when ill try to get u ill make sure that he'll land perfectly painful and break all his FU*KING bones and ill do it till he learns a lesson
dont worry dude
something new will be there likem maybe new parkour(although it sounds weird)
maybe about the dizzy shit, its not true?
it would be annoying that he will feel dizzy when gr8 height but rockstar knows that itll be annoying for players(cause most of em like to jump off a building )
maybe if u train to climp height niko will get over his fear( i hope )
anyways there will be something new so dont worry dude
Title: No more stunts?
Post by: Adonai on November 14, 2007, 05:10:21 AM: So let's just wait for IV...
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Post by: unreal on December 01, 2007, 09:40:25 AM: Well what we could do is get the GTA VI map onto the VC engine. It would own! But would it work lol.
Title: No more stunts?
Post by: Wanted on December 01, 2007, 11:08:09 PM: nice bump. my opinion, if they even try to make it 'stuntable' it wont turn out very good, but they wont.

and if not, the next big thing would be the multiplayer, should be good