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Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Daffy on April 18, 2007, 01:10:29 PM

This tutorial will hopefully learn  you how to achieve the best possible quality with the wmv (Windows Media Video) format.

Step 1: You're gonna need this to be able follow the tutorial.
• The Huffyuv Codec (http://neuron2.net/www.math.berkeley.edu/benrg/huffyuv.html)
• Windows Media Encoder (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/9series/encoder/default.aspx)

Step 2:[/b] Now let's render (y)our video, i could've written pages up and down but just follow the what the pictures tells you.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Indiana_Jonas/Tutorial/wmv720p_Render.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Indiana_Jonas/Tutorial/wmv720p_FileFormat.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Indiana_Jonas/Tutorial/wmv720p_Quality.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Indiana_Jonas/Tutorial/wmv720p_Video.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Indiana_Jonas/Tutorial/wmv720p_Audio.jpg)
Hit ok and render the movie.

Step 3: Open Windows Media Encoder and once again just follow the pics, everything is pretty simple unless your movie is in 25fps, i'll add some help for that once i find out how to.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Indiana_Jonas/Tutorial/wmv720p_Convert.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Indiana_Jonas/Tutorial/wmv720p_Directory.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Indiana_Jonas/Tutorial/wmv720p_Playback.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Indiana_Jonas/Tutorial/wmv720p_Bitrate.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Indiana_Jonas/Tutorial/wmv720p_Text.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Indiana_Jonas/Tutorial/wmv720p_Finito.jpg)

That's all, be aware that this requires some heavy hardware for a proper playback.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Ferσή on April 18, 2007, 01:21:48 PM

Nice, whats the filesize for say a 1 min clip?

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Daffy on April 18, 2007, 01:23:57 PM

That'll be different from clip to clip cause some needs a higher bitrate but somewhere between 45-50mb wouldn't be too far away.
Keep in mind that this tutorial is for quality-freaks like me

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Brainkiller on April 18, 2007, 01:27:25 PM

Getting freaky

I'm confused  you rendered @ 25fps and encoded to 30fps

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Tackleberry on April 18, 2007, 01:31:31 PM

Nice tut, but you're getting close to overkill now.  

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Daffy on April 18, 2007, 01:45:14 PM

Quote from: Tackleberry

Nice tut, but you're getting close to overkill now.  

Thanks, though i don't feel it's overkill.
I download movies in the best possible quality, that way i enjoy it more than i would enjoy to watch it with poor quality... this gives the movies even more enjoyment as i see it

Quote from: Brainkiller

Getting freaky  

I'm confused  you rendered @ 25fps and encoded to 30fps

I do render with 25 fps, i haven't used this myself cause there's this preset in Windows Media Encoder that keeps not letting me change the fps.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Torque on April 18, 2007, 01:45:54 PM

What about the playback because some videos lag in WMP or Winamp but if you play them in VLC they play perfectly. (Except Leftovers) So if you use this tutorial will your videos lag in WMP or Winamp?

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Daffy on April 18, 2007, 01:49:02 PM

If you don't have problems with 720p Xvid and x264 movies you won't have a problem with this.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Tackleberry on April 18, 2007, 01:51:09 PM

Daffy, a great add to the tutorial would be to upload an example of the outcome.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Daffy on April 18, 2007, 01:56:30 PM

I can't right now and i can't say why.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: plumpegg on April 18, 2007, 03:24:25 PM

wow... my  ati radeon 9600   256mb ram...  lags the 720  p  : (

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Torque on April 18, 2007, 09:04:27 PM

Hey, I have a question. May I know what card is better, my Radeon x300 or Plumpegg's card?

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Daffy on April 23, 2007, 01:58:43 PM

HQ-MQ-LQ and which file format?

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Daffy on April 23, 2007, 02:09:23 PM

I'd say somewhere between 250 and 300mb, maybe a bit more.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: VaNilla on April 24, 2007, 03:35:06 AM

Nice tut, hope you work out the 25fps, so it works for SA .

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: brandon6199 on July 03, 2007, 11:20:23 PM

OMG! My new favorite render

Thanks Daff  

And why isnt this one pinned?

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: boxXx on July 04, 2007, 04:08:55 AM

yeah ^

cause this works good man

i go try this for sa i guess i found some other shit for more quality if it really works ill post it

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Labiloute on July 05, 2007, 05:59:27 AM

woot thats the best render that i ever seen  
good job daffy

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Dogger on February 07, 2008, 05:50:28 AM

Before Step 3 i have 6 GB Movie :/ This is normal ?
And i cant make other resolution from 1280x720, i want 1280x960 :/

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: fedex on February 07, 2008, 08:21:16 AM

lol too easy, but nice tut.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Daffy on February 07, 2008, 11:40:17 AM

There's a new one coming soon utilizing AviSynth scripts and goodies alike.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Susp3ct on February 07, 2008, 01:03:33 PM

My PC will cry...

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Daffy on February 07, 2008, 02:33:13 PM

It doesn't require anymore resources for proper playback.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: JL on February 08, 2008, 05:28:56 AM

Can't wait.

I never rendered with anything but your tutorial's, lol.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Sucker on February 27, 2008, 02:36:45 AM

nice tut

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Torque on May 09, 2008, 09:56:47 PM

Hey guys, I'm Torque and I support this tut.

I rendered a 1024 x 768, 30 second video, it was only 15 MBs roughly and had crisp as ice quality. Nice job.

Pros:
-WMV, so everyone can watch without the hassel of downloading codecs or players
-High Quality
-Low File Size

Cons:
-Tutorial was by Daffy


Overall: I give it a 9.7

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Laketown on May 10, 2008, 12:22:04 AM

ah man, you just reminded me that I still have to render the GTASL 3!    

THE HQ WILL TAKE FOREVER!

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Torque on May 10, 2008, 10:48:42 AM

The render only took me two minutes and the conversion took me 3 minutes. I don't have a high-end PC at all so it might take you the same amount of time also.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: JayFoxRox on May 10, 2008, 01:00:38 PM

Torque: Windows user can watch it without problems, now, with my brand new linux installation, I m fucked
Luckily VLC exists - however, the wmv support for unix is still a bit "bad"

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Laketown on May 10, 2008, 03:49:13 PM

Quote from: Torque

The render only took me two minutes and the conversion took me 3 minutes. I don't have a high-end PC at all so it might take you the same amount of time also.

the vid is likely to be 20 minutes long. That's still going to take A HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Mythic on May 10, 2008, 03:51:49 PM

It'll be ready at the morning if you leave it to render to night, I guess?

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Willzyyy on July 16, 2008, 08:12:35 AM

Will you get good quality just using the Huffyuv and not Media encoder?

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Mythic on July 16, 2008, 08:41:35 AM

Huffyuv is codec that render's your source into uncompressed file, so yeah it is good quality but too big file.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Willzyyy on July 16, 2008, 08:52:57 AM

Ok, thanks. I am rendering a vid with Huffyuv codec now. I don't have Media encoda, and I can't download it.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Mythic on July 16, 2008, 09:06:54 AM

It'll be more than 10GB's (dependive of the video's duration) so you have to use Xvid, wmv or similar codec to make it smaller.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Willzyyy on July 16, 2008, 09:10:31 AM

Quote from: Mythic

It'll be more than 10GB's (dependive of the video's duration) so you have to use Xvid, wmv or similar codec to make it smaller.

Ok, Thanks mate. Is Xvid as easy to do as Huffyuv? Because I installed Huffyuv in seconds.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Mythic on July 16, 2008, 09:14:54 AM

Yes, try some of Daffy's tutorials.

Matroska x264 Encoding (http://www.gtastunting.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=27396)
Xvid/LAME High Quality Render (http://www.gtastunting.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17425)

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Willzyyy on July 16, 2008, 09:17:35 AM

Quote from: Mythic

Yes, try some of Daffy's tutorials.

Matroska x264 Encoding (http://www.gtastunting.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=27396)
Xvid/LAME High Quality Render (http://www.gtastunting.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17425)

Will do thanks. But I was was to download Media encoder and finish the rest of the tut above, would it improve the quality a lot more than if I just used "Huffyuv"? Sorry for asking so many question. Your knowledge is just great with this.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Mythic on July 16, 2008, 10:47:44 AM

It wouldn't improve the quality, it would make the file smaller and it would decrease the quality because you can't upload a file worth 10 GB's.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Willzyyy on July 16, 2008, 11:19:16 AM

Ok. I that case my Huffyuv gave be "MQ" - kinda like normal HQ / MQ wmv quality.  Maybe, it's my fraps causing the bad quality.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: ofthemountain on July 18, 2008, 03:21:54 PM

Problem: when I say the location of the file I want to encode, I click browse, find the file then double click the file, then windows encoder kills itself and doesn't respond. Know what's causing it?

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Sucre on July 18, 2008, 10:51:28 PM

THat's fucking awesome

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Sucre on August 23, 2008, 12:06:19 AM

Daff, i have a problem, i did everything, just like in the tut but when i play the video after the whole thing it just wont play, just a black screen, why is that?

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Mythic on August 23, 2008, 02:13:44 AM

The problem is with your player/codecs then, get FFDshow and if it doesn't work by then, make a new topic as it's having nothing to do with this rendering itself.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: AlBundy on September 01, 2008, 08:58:15 AM

thanks Daffy ^^      

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Arnax on September 01, 2008, 09:10:54 AM

Thanks a lot dude.

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: bluedagger on September 07, 2008, 01:37:53 AM

Err, I have a 8800 GTS 512 mb Vram GFX card, and a duo 2.0 GHZ AMD core. Will my video lag?

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: FIGHTER on September 07, 2008, 03:18:47 AM

not rly i think

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: bluedagger on September 19, 2008, 07:18:24 AM

Wil i get a 30% color loss on this aswell as with normal wmv qualities?

Title: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Willzyyy on September 26, 2008, 11:00:37 AM

Can you view the finished project using Windows Media Player? Like all the other Vegas renders?

Title: Re: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Arie on December 19, 2009, 04:42:13 AM

Daffy,

i did all that in the description..but,
after i rendered it in the wme it made my file a 5-10 Kb file..

so..how can i fix it?

Title: Re: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: LeaR on December 19, 2009, 06:05:28 AM

(http://imgs.sk/images/fhghfhgdrhJPG-69546.jpg)

i can't encode it  :( wtf with it help  :(

Title: Re: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: LeaR on December 19, 2009, 08:05:49 AM

Quote from: LeaR on December 19, 2009, 06:05:28 AM

i can't encode it  :( wtf with it help  :(

i did all that in the description..but,
after i rendered it in the wme it made my file a 5-10 Kb file..

so..how can i fix it?

i have this problem too.

Title: Re: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Reaper on February 27, 2010, 12:11:13 PM

huffyuv doesn't appear on the codec list..  :hmm:

Title: Re: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: A maid on February 27, 2010, 01:25:08 PM

You sure you installed it? :lol:

Title: Re: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Reaper on February 27, 2010, 01:33:50 PM

Quote from: SuspiciousOne on February 27, 2010, 01:25:08 PM

You sure you installed it? :lol:

obvious guy is obvious

ofc i installed it..  :euro:

Title: Re: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: A maid on February 27, 2010, 01:36:42 PM

Then i can't help you. Sorry :P

Title: Re: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Mythic on February 27, 2010, 02:18:33 PM

Quote from: Daffy on September 12, 2007, 04:13:50 AM

In order to install "Huffyuv" right click the "Huffyuv.ini" file and click "Install".
If you're using a 64 Bit OS or has a CPU with multiple cores, get this version of Huffyuv instead.
Download Link (http://hotfile.com/dl/19620579/f1b0821/Huffyuv_mt_x86__Win7_64Bit_Support.rar.html)

Title: Re: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Reaper on February 27, 2010, 02:57:36 PM

Quote from: Mythic on February 27, 2010, 02:18:33 PM

Quote from: Daffy on September 12, 2007, 04:13:50 AM

In order to install "Huffyuv" right click the "Huffyuv.ini" file and click "Install".
If you're using a 64 Bit OS or has a CPU with multiple cores, get this version of Huffyuv instead.
Download Link (http://hotfile.com/dl/19620579/f1b0821/Huffyuv_mt_x86__Win7_64Bit_Support.rar.html)

worked, thanks pal  :P

Title: Re: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: ObscureStunter on March 30, 2010, 12:02:48 PM

this is the quality of Megaton ?

Title: Re: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: blackdeath on March 30, 2010, 12:20:08 PM

Quote from: ObscureStunter on March 30, 2010, 12:02:48 PM

this is the quality of Megaton ?

x2 ?  :ajaja:

Title: Re: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Instel on May 01, 2010, 12:07:28 PM

I get this when I click on "Finish"


(http://gta-stunt.com/uploads/04dd4534721f2eb007f09faabd57db30.jpg)


 :cheersad:

Title: Re: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: LeaR on May 01, 2010, 12:53:32 PM

I have same problem :hmm:

Title: Re: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Instel on May 06, 2010, 06:41:13 AM

anyone can help me plz ?

Title: Re: Tutorial: WMV Extreme 720p Quality
Post by: Daffy on May 06, 2010, 08:33:20 AM

It's fairly safe to say this tutorial is quite outdated.
I'm using something different I can't be arsed to write a tutorial for.