GTAStunting
GTA Series => Grand Theft Auto - IV => IV Chat & Support => Topic started by: Aeneon on March 29, 2007, 10:51:21 AM
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I Think it will be stuntable. But if they dont include taxi boost, Im sad.
What do you think ?.
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I think its too early to say. I would imagine basic stunts like krails and maybe bumps will be possible but other then that its hard to say.
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Im hoping that they bring back the VC physics engine. VC completly owns SA in terms of possibilities, and from personal experience I know that SA is already running low on spots because of this, wheres VC still has plenty of stuff to be landed, and with Nitz SA for VC mod coming, that will only become more apparent.
One problem Im thinking may arise is with the huge detail going into current PS3 and 360 games, that buildings, that would normally be pretty much square in VC or SA, and good for landing on or bumping, will now have odd edges, making bumping alot harder.
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like... not much
there would be new engine. they would try to keep the style of previous games, but the difference between IV and SA/VC would be still much bigger than between VC and SA. keep in mind GTA was the only stuntable(in our terms) game. other games with cars(and even bikes) and big maps(Driv3r, True Crime, Midnight Club) allowed us doing some arcade shit only.
so i guess we would be able to go some car roofs/grinds(thick ones), maybe bike p2bs or even bumps(i think p2bs are more likely, if there would be packer obviously). if there would be skate, we would be able to do some skate stunts, so some skate combos too.
as for grinds and other stuff - we can just wait. i think we would be very lucky if we can make them in IV.
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No Taxi-Boost =
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Well unless theyve gone to shit like EA has and lost touch with realism, i think it'll be pretty hard to stunt in GTA 4, each game was more and more realistic so it should be only natural that GTA 4 will be hard(er) to stunt in. I hope it wont anyway but i'll be happy with just a cool storyline too
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I find VC much more realistic then SA in terms of physics.
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I find VC much more realistic then SA in terms of physics.
How can stunting be realistic.
But I see what you're trying to say. In real life any kinda bump would knock you off and that kinda happens in VC.
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I hope the game has the packer bur sorry for bumping old topics
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I think there will be a greater progression towards more complex and realistic physics, I think the new engine presents an issue as SA and VC were both built from the same engine and so basic ideas held steady. I can only hope that this game will be stuntable because it is like the previous GTA's a R* engine, and they may build their physics based on the model started with VC/SA and so keep the fundamentals down.
Bike stunting may go down the tube, but from what I know of the changes to SA it will give hope for cars (which were more powerful in SA), planes and bicycles...I think stunters will find a way, as it is a whole new playground
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But lol, 99.99999999% of vids have bike stunts in them, whether it be SA or VC.
Seriously though, its Grand Theft Auto, you werent meant to do p2b's and csm's and crap. Just be happy that its another awesome game in the franchise.
Judging by the trailer though, totally not gonna be stuntable. It looks too realistic to be stuntable.
For example:
-Gets alot of speed with a motorbike
-Gets ready to bump a 2 ft ledge
-Hits the bump only to find out his bike's front tire gets raped and dismembered and the driver of the motorbike flies 30 feet forward, lands on the pavement, and dies
Or another one:
-Huge runup
-Get alot of speed on the bike
-Getting ready to do a huge ass p2b
-Here it comes!
-*Your gas tank is empty. Please refill at the local gas station*
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Bumping : Possible, but less high then VC and/or SA.
Grinding : Impossible, same effect as Driv3r.
Airgrabbing : Possible, but it's going to be more like a Groundgrab then Airgrabbing, IMO.
Spins : Possible.
Wallrides : Possible
Ledgrinds : Possible.
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I think this aint gonna be a Stunt game... but you know we all can find some new cool things to do.... like kr3m ,Rad found out... so Dont worry...
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i think , new stunt method will be find in GTA IV
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When GTA4 is out and it isnt stuntable , someone should convert the map to VC
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^ yeah i was thinking of that, not that i'll make it, cause i can't make anything on those programs
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this is what people without stunting knowledge still think about VC and SA. they cant imagine doing it without hacks. but we're not them. we're the worlds best, we can do whatever we want in GTA when it comes to stunting
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I highly doubt it, I will only buy it for playin the storyline. Nothing else.
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Do you know, I don't really care that much, I just want them to make it possible for a real backflip/frontflip to be done, not these halfflip krail things we see
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good point Becky, thats one thing thats gotta go
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When GTA4 is out and it isnt stuntable , someone should convert the map to VC
Yeah, i was thinking of that too, but i think GTA IV will be stuntable... in some way!
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But lol, 99.99999999% of vids have bike stunts in them, whether it be SA or VC.
Seriously though, its Grand Theft Auto, you werent meant to do p2b's and csm's and crap. Just be happy that its another awesome game in the franchise.
Judging by the trailer though, totally not gonna be stuntable. It looks too realistic to be stuntable.
For example:
-Gets alot of speed with a motorbike
-Gets ready to bump a 2 ft ledge
-Hits the bump only to find out his bike's front tire gets raped and dismembered and the driver of the motorbike flies 30 feet forward, lands on the pavement, and dies
Or another one:
-Huge runup
-Get alot of speed on the bike
-Getting ready to do a huge ass p2b
-Here it comes!
-*Your gas tank is empty. Please refill at the local gas station*
PWNT!
That look too much the right thing what iv does, i think that only thing that can be done in IV is stoppie, wheelie, and a quadbike?? two wheel bonus
But, oh my Allah! R* Have done good job ,not stunt related,
i think im gonna buy ps3
When it costs 100bucks if it costs 100bucks anytime, when its cheaper i think we're screwed, then there is XBox 1260 or 1080, and ps15. But who knows.
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I think there will be a greater progression towards more complex and realistic physics, I think the new engine presents an issue as SA and VC were both built from the same engine and so basic ideas held steady. I can only hope that this game will be stuntable because it is like the previous GTA's a R* engine, and they may build their physics based on the model started with VC/SA and so keep the fundamentals down.
Bike stunting may go down the tube, but from what I know of the changes to SA it will give hope for cars (which were more powerful in SA), planes and bicycles...I think stunters will find a way, as it is a whole new playground
Exactly my opinion.
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Yup, we found a way to stunt VC and SA, we'll find a way to stunt this.
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Ive heard on CVG the driving model will be similar to that of the Midnight Club games which might make it worse in terms of stunting....anyone who has played those games care to elaborate on how that might affect a stunters perspective?
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seeing as they seem to be using some physics from Natual Motion it'll be stuntable...not like you think...not like 100ft bumps, maybe like...a car flip or 2 if your lucky type thing, I'm guessing you could probably use and explosion to get more force and stuff from flying off a ramp but I doubt anything extraordinary will be possible
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Judging by the trailer though, totally not gonna be stuntable. It looks too realistic to be stuntable.
I highly doubt the actual game will look like the trailer. I mean look at the Killzone trailer they had when they shown off the PS3, they sayed it was actual gameplay but it was really computer rendered.
And even if it is "Too Realistic" there's always handling mods.
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I think stunting will be...well...stunted on GTAIV. As has been mentioned already, the series is leaning more and more toward realism...particularly in the driving physics. To that end, we may not even see Packers in GTAIV.
Also, I think if any stunting is possible (which will probably ring true, only not to the degree of VC and SA), we'll all be relegated to PS2 and XB360 vids...because I'm doubting it will get a PC release.
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I think stunting will be...well...stunted on GTAIV. As has been mentioned already, the series is leaning more and more toward realism...particularly in the driving physics. To that end, we may not even see Packers in GTAIV.
Also, I think if any stunting is possible (which will probably ring true, only not to the degree of VC and SA), we'll all be relegated to PS2 and XB360 vids...because I'm doubting it will get a PC release.
It should get a PC release. Most of the "Big Releases" are. I don't think VCS/LCS was ment to be that big of a game. More of a "Milking money out of us" type of game.
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They should release a PC version...I meen after all...the sony uses a tweaked Geforce7 for it's graphics and most computers now days can take next gen stuff, I dunno...I'd like a pc release but then again I doubt they will even for LCS or VCS.
And yeah that's true some trailers are computer generated but...well look at it, they even show the supposed "main charectar" (who can blink), I dunno but I'd be very dissapointed in R* if it wasn't atleast NEAR what they showed in the trailer
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They should release a PC version...I meen after all...the sony uses a tweaked Geforce7 for it's graphics and most computers now days can take next gen stuff, I dunno...I'd like a pc release but then again I doubt they will even for LCS or VCS.
And yeah that's true some trailers are computer generated but...well look at it, they even show the supposed "main charectar" (who can blink), I dunno but I'd be very dissapointed in R* if it wasn't atleast NEAR what they showed in the trailer
My guess would be around Driv3r graphics if not then a little better.
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I think this aint gonna be a Stunt game... but you know we all can find some new cool things to do.... like kr3m ,Rad found out... so Dont worry...
plumpegg
Blub Your head out of gamecreators ass Just joking
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"Hoes", I like that.
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"Hoes", I like that.
Agreed
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i'm sorry for this bump but ... you guys are all talking about if the game is stuntable but what about a replay system... without that we are screwed you know ...
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Not really. Video/DVD Recorders come in handy. Look at SS PS2 Quality
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Yeah I DVD record and get nice quality, also Midnight Club 3 physics can give good height, you go pretty fast and shit, I think it's a fairly good engine, I doubt it would use its physics though, if it does... bikes might be ok, cars will be meh probably.
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I hope it will be stuntable, but i don't care so much, i wont buy a X-box 360 nor a PS3, and when/if it comes out to PC my pc wont handle it
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Is there even anyone on GTAS who owns a PS3????
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Fuck PS3, that's what I say. I got a good 'ol XBOX 360...that's the way to go.
As for stuntability, I think we'll have to just use GTA IV as a regular game and try to squeeze as much out of current titles as possible.
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I think the physics for GTA IV will be too realistic to stunt as we do now. The game will probably have way less glitches as well, ruling out a good few methods. But I want to stay optimistic, there will probably be new methods. There won't be stunting as it's known now but there's a fair chance there will be some kind of stunting, which could evolve just like this has. After all, no one predicted GTA VC would be so stuntable before it came out.
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Bike stunting may go down the tube, but from what I know of the changes to SA it will give hope for cars (which were more powerful in SA), planes and bicycles...I think stunters will find a way, as it is a whole new playground
Planes have been cut from IV...;(
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Not much. Physics are going to be a big part of GTA IV and that will affect everything and action in GTA IV.
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BK and I have a ps3, but the games suck for it now, I have COD3, Oblivion, Resistance, and some flying game.
I was answering M_Y's post. Also the menu is pretty nifty but its not to fancy if you already owned a psp. They're kinda the same.
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The hoes should be pretty stuntable.
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The hoes should be pretty stuntable.
lol!
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The hoes should be pretty stuntable
LMFAO! yeah thats why i dont think that gtaIV should be on here...because chances are we wont be able to stunt...and besides..another fucking liberty city game!!!OMFG
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I don't think GTA IV will be Stuntable,because Bumps etc. are only Bugs of the GTA Engine in III,VC and SA.But IV will have a New Engine so there dont will be the same bugs, i think in GTA IV it will be a diffrent kind of Stunting,with Planes or Cars but not too much Stuff with Bikes.... so Stunting will die in the next 2 Years i think
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Actually bumps ARE possible in real life... no , and i dont mean 180ft. bumps or something
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i think it will become boring to stunt since liberty city is already stunted... unless new game physics will come, but i dont think itll be stuntable due to possible realistic structures....
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maybe itl be things like propelling the russian dude through the windshield and in2 something for a stunt ...
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I just noticed that you had typed the word hoe.
Hopefully, for the sake of stunting GTAIV will be better.
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I hope that there will be handling.cfg ( if this game will be on PC) and we could all release standard handling.cfg to stunt with.
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its only being released on the ps3 n xbox 360...but than again...they said only ps2 for the rest of em
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btw no bicycles hopefully they will keep motorcycles. it should be semi-stuntable because it runs on the same engine as previous installments(just more realistic)
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Damn no bicycles and planes, i hope this GTA won't dissapoint me like all next gen games <_< all they think about is graphics now.
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whered you hear no bikes? i know there is not planes. But guys you think R* is clueless? you think they don't no about gta stunting? HELL NO . They know theres people who just buy the games to stunt and mod what the hell do they care if they screw the game? they still made money. My opinion is totally stuntable.. realism ya say hm? Whens the last time you saw a man named niko climb tot eh very top of a telephone pole to get "a better view of the city"...
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What if the bike physics r like Driv3r? omggg that would suck! u can't do shit in that game! im sellin my Driv3r soon...
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I got to thinking.. And there's always gonna be stunting in GTA.. It might not be our type of stunting but there will always be flips and shit cause most if not all gta's had some sort of stunt mission.
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If it's out, I'll try my fucking best to do some car or plane stunts. That would be awesome too.
So, I think, you can also do some carflips, fly with an plane through bridges or other buildings, stunt with an boat and much more. Maybe grenadeboosting also works, who knows?
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I'm fucking noob in GTA 4.
So here's a noob question: Will be this out to PC?
If yes, then when.
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I'm fucking noob in GTA 4.
So here's a noob question: Will be this out to PC?
If yes, then when.
Nobody knows... They havn't even released it on PS3/360 yet.. <_<
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GTA4 Is gonna be realistic as hell. I'm pretty sure you cant stunt at all in it. Krails/corks and basic jumps at most
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Nope.
Havn't you noticed Vice City, that IS good for stunting, but then came out San Andreas, it got more realistic, the gravity and collisions did anyway, so when IV comes out, i don't think there is ANY WAY of stunting like you can in San Andreas and Vice City because of more realism.
GTA86700
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Nope.
Havn't you noticed Vice City, that IS good for stunting, but then came out San Andreas, it got more realistic, the gravity and collisions did anyway, so when IV comes out, i don't think there is ANY WAY of stunting like you can in San Andreas and Vice City because of more realism.
GTA86700
Yeah but look at the handling in VCS/LCS.. <_<
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GTA IV is gonna change stunting as we know it.
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Maybe we will do stunts like in real life, not so big and so unrealistic, but still hard.
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It would kickass if they put in a skateboard. Or add some tricks to the BMX/Mountain Bikes.
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GTA IV is gonna change stunting as we know it.
X2... I think everything is gonna be reinvented.
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It would kickass if they put in a skateboard. Or add some tricks to the BMX/Mountain Bikes.
As far as i understood, IV wont have BMX/MTB
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i'm sorry for this bump but ... you guys are all talking about if the game is stuntable but what about a replay system... without that we are screwed you know ...
if there is none, ill make one... my sa one was easy to port to VCS, LCS (PSP) and VC (PC) so i m sure GTA4 will be possible too.